Favorite train and era ?


Can't imagine how. All the ones that were traded into GE were cut up for parts, mostly for the UP U50C's, and the last three U50's were completely cut up for scrap in 1977. None were donated for display that I'm aware of. If you saw one of these, it had to be the equivalent of a railroad ghost. You sure it wasn't this locomotive?

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This is the last running DDA40X, owned and run on special trains by the UP. It's a huge engine and could have been mistaken for a U50 if you haven't seen one before.
 
A big blow(Turbine)? I'm not sure but There might be one still left, That would explain the bad sounding engine!
 
From wikipedia, UP 26 in Ogden, Utah, and UP 18 at the Illinois Railway Museum still exist. Many of the tenders were converted to water tenders.

And what sound?

Bob
 
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Can't imagine how. All the ones that were traded into GE were cut up for parts, mostly for the UP U50C's, and the last three U50's were completely cut up for scrap in 1977. None were donated for display that I'm aware of. If you saw one of these, it had to be the equivalent of a railroad ghost. You sure it wasn't this locomotive?

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This is the last running DDA40X, owned and run on special trains by the UP. It's a huge engine and could have been mistaken for a U50 if you haven't seen one before.
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nope, it was a U50, cant confuse the short stubby nose with anything else out there. it might have been the one in utah, like i said it headed north from ft worth.
 
if you really saw that train man, your lucky as hell, go buy a lottery ticket :D

im looking for an HO Mallard, someone know if it in production by any brand ?
 
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Yes, it's in OO. I don't know of any Mallards other than brass in HO. And those were SIGNIFICANTLY priced. I haven't seen one in quite a few years though.

I have my OO on static display in the cabinet in the living room along with some other famous and noteworthy trains. I don't have any track, other than what it is displayed on, anyway.

Bob

Bob
 
a loco as famous as this one... maybe they will sold a special edition kit when it reach 75 year old. anyway im not in a hurry, im busy enought building my layout, i wont race all around just for a loco
 
First, the UP 18 and 26 are the two surviving turbines. They haven't been moved from their museums in many years and have no prime movers anyway. They look nothing like a U50 either.

There no eight trucked U50's left. They were all traded in to GE in 1974 with the exception of three that ran unti 1977. They were all scrapped and none were donated for display. There is now way an eight trucked U50 could be seen anywhere today.

This only leaves the U50C, with the same general carbody but the D-D trucks. This is what happened to them:

UP 5000 Nov 1969 37139 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in August 1977.
UP 5001 Oct 1969 37140 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in August 1977.
UP 5002 Mar 1970 37141 8 Mar 1977 Wrecked; sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in May 1977.
UP 5003 Mar 1970 37142 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in August 1977.
UP 5004 Mar 1970 37143 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in August 1977.
UP 5005 Apr 1970 37144 8 Mar 1977 Wrecked; scrapped by UP at Omaha in August 1977.
UP 5006 Apr 1970 37145 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in May 1977.
UP 5007 May 1970 37146 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in August 1977.
UP 5008 May 1970 37147 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in August 1977.
UP 5009 May 1970 37148 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in May 1977.
UP 5010 May 1970 37149 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in May 1977.
UP 5011 May 1970 37150 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in May 1977.
UP 5012 Nov 1970 37151 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in May 1977.
UP 5013 Dec 1970 37152 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in May 1977.
UP 5014 Dec 1970 37153 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in August 1977.
UP 5015 Dec 1970 37154 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in August 1977.
UP 5016 Dec 1970 37155 8 Mar 1977 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in May 1977.
UP 5017 Jan 1971 37156 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5018 Jan 1971 37157 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5019 Feb 1971 37158 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5020 May 1971 37273 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5021 May 1971 37274 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5022 May 1971 37275 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5023 Jun 1971 37276 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5024 Jun 1971 37277 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5025 Jun 1971 37278 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5026 Jun 1971 37279 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5027 Jul 1971 37280 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5028 Jul 1971 37281 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5029 Jul 1971 37282 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5030 Aug 1971 37283 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5031 Aug 1971 37284 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5032 Aug 1971 37285 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5033 Sep 1971 37286 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5034 Sep 1971 37287 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5035 Sep 1971 37288 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5036 Oct 1971 37289 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5037 Oct 1971 37290 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5038 Nov 1971 37291 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.
UP 5039 Nov 1971 37292 23 Feb 1978 Sold for scrap to Erman Corp., Turner, Kans., in June 1978.

They were all either scrapped or wrecked and none were preserved. None have started wandering the rails again after being cut up in pieces in 1978.

Dallas, I gave no idea what you saw, but it wasn't a U50. The Centennial is the only large engine that was preserved with the prime mover intact and still runs. If it wasn't a Centennial, it's a UP engine I've never seen or heard of, and I've been watching UP trains saince 1965.
 
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????? Not if they were scrapped in 1978..... That pic is prior to then, at least I think 1977 came before 1978..... SP only ordered 3 U50's. They did not order any more. And when the fuel crunch hit in the mid-late '70's, they were yarded, yielding to more powerful and economical units.

Bob
 
The SP absolutely hated their U50's. They got three to use as test beds and found out they drank fuel at a prodigious rate, were inflexible, and tore up track at speeds above 35 mph. They spent their last few years doing yard transfer jobs between West Colton and San Bernardino. All three were sold for scrap in 1978.

I don't know how to say this more clearly. There are NO U50 or U50C's that survived. All were wrecked and scrapped, traded into GE for parts and then scrapped, or scrapped outright. It is not possible that anyone could have seen an operating (or non-operating) U50 in 2009 unless it was a cardboard mockup.
 
No need to flame MLW. Those of us that have been in the hobby a while, and are familiar with a bit off RR history, know that it is impossible to see one of these engines today.

It's just too bad that so many railroads didn't keep at least one of each of their engines for posterity. But, it's all about money and keeping the lines running. That I can understand. Still, being able to see one of those beasts "whistling" on the rails would have been something for all to see. I'm thankful that there are historical organizations that dedicate themselves to refurbishing maintaining old equipment, even if it's just a speeder or a hand car.

Bob
 
Add more fuel to the flame war.....were u there and Are u sureeeeeee when they got to the scrap yard they were all scraped and no rich RR tycoon mofo bought one and hid it from the world! crazier things have happend. Heheheheheheheheheheh.......One can dream......or smoke crack at track side and see what he or she wanted to see!LOL's

But seriously, are we sure they were all scraped? and some where in a scrap yard way in the back one rusted out hulk does not lurk? Sure they all went to a scrap yard.....but were they all scraped? Hmmmmmm. I'll leave it at that.......Some time Lost treasure is still found in this world!
 
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yes it a shame they scrap everything, look the CN Turbo Train, they where all scapped, but they where the fastest train ever in canada
 
No, Chris, they were all broken up. The scarppers had to provide certificates and photos back to both GE and the UP/SP to make sure the locomotive and prime movers were unusable because of patent issues. The U50's traded into GE were cut up and the parts were used for U-25 and U-28 new and rebuilt engines. Kind of like the "Cash for Clunkers program. Even if one somehow managed to survive, how would it be lisited in the manifest or bill of lading on that train? I'm pretty sure the alarm bells would ahve been going off in Omaha. :)

I was around to see all those large engines in regular service. I can see how a younger person, who's only seen them in pictures or models, could mistake a Centennial for a U50. The surviving operative Centennial is based in Omaha so having it going north from Texas makes sense. With things that large, sometimes the mind plays tricks on you. If it was the Centennial, I would have been the first one down at the tracks with my camera. :D
 
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No, Chris, they were all broken up. The scarppers had to provide certificates and photos back to both GE and the UP/SP to make sure the locomotive and prime movers were unusable because of patent issues. The U50's traded into GE were cut up and the parts were used for U-25 and U-28 new and rebuilt engines. Kind of like the "Cash for Clunkers program. Even if one somehow managed to survive, how would it be lisited in the manifest or bill of lading on that train? I'm pretty sure the alarm bells would ahve been going off in Omaha. :)

I was around to see all those large engines in regular service. I can see how a younger person, who's only seen them in pictures or models, could mistake a Centennial for a U50. The surviving operative Centennial is based in Omaha so having it going north from Texas makes sense. With things that large, sometimes the mind plays tricks on you. If it was the Centennial, I would have been the first one down at the tracks with my camera. :D
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Jim your a Kill Joy!:mad: Photo's and certificates can and do get faked........Crazy things happen!!!!;);) If a tree falls in the woods and nobody around to sees or hears it does it make a sound?...... Jim, remember Hope for change and changing to hope and what not!:D
 
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