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I would have one small criticism, unless these were not finished then just slap me,
but considering the amount of weathering on the roof I would expect a bit more on the sides especially at the bottom where water and rust fall down from roof in wet conditions would in my opinion result in some build up
The roofs are superb btw
A serious complaint
Especially as you now do less commission work and your health is improved…
Where is my whip…..
Some of your buildings are screaming out for you to give them some love and attention..by which I mean turn them into grotty weathered realistic
Should you have time, and energy, can you address the odd building especially when you already are dipping into appropriate paint…..or I will crack that whip!
As you know I prefer a heavier hand myself, but if I am honest that is because subtly is an art in itself. One you in my opinion You have a firm grasp of.
I have not caught up yet, but a couple of pages at a time is a joy to study
I loved the roofs but not so much the sides. When I do commissioned weathering I have to divorce myself from any personal feelings. Thats hard, easier if the client sends a picture along because in reality I can copy anything. The fact is this client has always relied on my judgment so I went with that. What or how I thought the containers should look. For most but not all my commission clients get pictures as I go through the process. In this case he got pictures of the roofs before I had finished the container. He said that is how he sees containers near him but he said he had no clue how the roofs looked as he never can see them from the ground. So I added some matte clear coat and called it a day.
My paper mill is a prime example of buildings that need weathering. Here in Wisconsin most of the Paper Mills still remaining are in clean if not pristine condition. I call my layout the Wisconsin River Valley and Terminal Railroad. When we moved here in the 1970’s along a 100 mile stretch between Rhinelander, Wi and Necedah, Wi were 17 paper mills. The mill is Wisconsin Rapids per industry sources was at 1 time privately owned and supposedly the most efficient and profitable in the Midwest. That mill is gone alone with 9 others leaving only 7 mills along the a Wisconsin River.
I compressed those 17 mills by taking ideas from each into my modeled Papers of Wisconsin, Inc. paper mill. They are clean buildings
When I go down to the train room tonight when I get home I have 1 building at the mill that is lightly weathered, the Chipper Building. I’ll get that posted for your critique tomorrow and after that I can break out the paints, thinners and brushes before I get whipped
I love my Abteilung502 oils and my fleet of 11 diesels 9 are still virgins and need some dirt.
I work mostly from photos because I have a heavy weathering hand and not every unit is heavily weathered in real life or a rust bucket.
Thank your Jaz for your posts. You may spur me on to the bench
The saying less is more isn’t always necessarily true. You could have gone crazy with these but your restraint tells volumes about your talent. Post, post and keep posting, please
Let us know if you have techniques or tips you want to share. Are these weathered from a prototype picture, from memory or a combo? Airbrushed, brush or a combo?
Thanks for sharing
Once I watched one of Kevin Packard's, kpack on YouTube, videos of weathering a BNSF FMC 4400 cuft hopper and copied some of the easier steps.
The MDR/Valdosta car was mostly from a photo. I put a different number on it because I think it's fun when the digits of the number add up to 21, in this case MDR 8382. I first dullcoated the car then applied thin washes of a yellow that was lighter than the original yellow. If the car is wet with plain water, the washes flow and you don't get the runs and drips or hard edges of the color. When it was the lighter yellow I wanted, I added the rusted dents and scratches with small brushes, one of the favorites being a 20/0 round with half the bristles cut off. I use a dark brown for the rust and give that a light wash of orange, I think it makes a convincing rust spot.
The Railbox got a coat of dullcoat and then some orangish/yellow pastel chalk to fade it. I used the craft paints and mixed up a faded blue and red for the arrows and repainted them with my 20/0 brush. Then washes and rust spots/scratches like before. The roof is mostly brush painted brown with some orange wash followed by a dark orange brown chalk. The process is far from precise and a good exercise for my spreadsheet/AutoCad brain to relax a little.
For the above centerbeam, I tried airbrushing a coat of very thin craft paint. It was a very light yellow to mute the brilliant yellow Walthers gave it. After that, washes of various shades of brown with more brown and orange for rust spots. The top is also weathered but it doesn't show well in this photo. The inspiration was from a photo. Coupled to the right is the 'before'. All together, it is probably about 4 hours of trying to create "happy accidents". Eventually, I'll do something besides a yellow car but I still have a few more Railbox...
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TLOC
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Don’t ever worry about that. We need to re-invigorate the thread and your perspective has always been insightful and helpful.
TLOC
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With JazA it’s never safe to guess but I’d go with good!
Jaz avalley
Station cat
Maybe I can add it people need only ask what aspect they are interested in
Jaz avalley
Station cat
I like all 3 but the first to me is gorgeous
Jaz avalley
Station cat
Very nice
I would have one small criticism, unless these were not finished then just slap me,
but considering the amount of weathering on the roof I would expect a bit more on the sides especially at the bottom where water and rust fall down from roof in wet conditions would in my opinion result in some build up
The roofs are superb btw
Jaz avalley
Station cat
Gorgeous, colour and texture,
Jaz avalley
Station cat
What is not to like about these excellent weather
Jaz avalley
Station cat
Ok I have a complaint
A serious complaint
Especially as you now do less commission work and your health is improved…
Where is my whip…..
Some of your buildings are screaming out for you to give them some love and attention..by which I mean turn them into grotty weathered realistic
Should you have time, and energy, can you address the odd building especially when you already are dipping into appropriate paint…..or I will crack that whip!
Jaz avalley
Station cat
Airbrushes have their place they do and do a nice job, but they don’t always get that been raining heavily and drenched look that leaves realist marks when it dries out this way it does, mix and match for best results, air brush is faster and considered more professional but I think a person who takes time and effort to actual emulate reality gets a better look long term, and often your work reflects reality far better than a ‘professional’ airbrush artist.
As you know I prefer a heavier hand myself, but if I am honest that is because subtly is an art in itself. One you in my opinion You have a firm grasp of.
I have not caught up yet, but a couple of pages at a time is a joy to study
Jaz avalley
Station cat
TLOC
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I can’t disagree with anything you wrote.
I loved the roofs but not so much the sides. When I do commissioned weathering I have to divorce myself from any personal feelings. Thats hard, easier if the client sends a picture along because in reality I can copy anything. The fact is this client has always relied on my judgment so I went with that. What or how I thought the containers should look. For most but not all my commission clients get pictures as I go through the process. In this case he got pictures of the roofs before I had finished the container. He said that is how he sees containers near him but he said he had no clue how the roofs looked as he never can see them from the ground. So I added some matte clear coat and called it a day.
TLOC
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It’s a good question. My layout has been a rather big stationary diorama for quite some time now. I just get seem to get in the train room and do anything on the layout. When I do I have a 24-48 hour spurt of happiness and it disappears! I don’t know why as when I run it it operates very well. The diner is aware of my continuing frustration butvI also don’t want to tear it down partly because I’m afraid I’d never re-build.
My paper mill is a prime example of buildings that need weathering. Here in Wisconsin most of the Paper Mills still remaining are in clean if not pristine condition. I call my layout the Wisconsin River Valley and Terminal Railroad. When we moved here in the 1970’s along a 100 mile stretch between Rhinelander, Wi and Necedah, Wi were 17 paper mills. The mill is Wisconsin Rapids per industry sources was at 1 time privately owned and supposedly the most efficient and profitable in the Midwest. That mill is gone alone with 9 others leaving only 7 mills along the a Wisconsin River.
I compressed those 17 mills by taking ideas from each into my modeled Papers of Wisconsin, Inc. paper mill. They are clean buildings
When I go down to the train room tonight when I get home I have 1 building at the mill that is lightly weathered, the Chipper Building. I’ll get that posted for your critique tomorrow and after that I can break out the paints, thinners and brushes before I get whipped
TLOC
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Well! The airbrush for me is an effective efficient tool but not the tool to end tools. As recently as 2 years ago I was weathering well over 100 cars a month from regular commission clients, plus friends equipment, models being sent to me and sometimes my own stuff. I had to use the air brush even though personally give me a bunch of brushes, paints, thinners and a cotton tip. I have time now as most of my current commissions are HO scale diesels from 3 still regular clients. I’m fine with that. Even though this isn’t a locomotive weathering thread I will say my diesel weathering is probably 80% hand brushing with the other 20% being the matte clear being sprayed between applications or color changes.Airbrushes have their place they do and do a nice job, but they don’t always get that been raining heavily and drenched look that leaves realist marks when it dries out this way it does, mix and match for best results, air brush is faster and considered more professional but I think a person who takes time and effort to actual emulate reality gets a better look long term, and often your work reflects reality far better than a ‘professional’ airbrush artist.
As you know I prefer a heavier hand myself, but if I am honest that is because subtly is an art in itself. One you in my opinion You have a firm grasp of.
I have not caught up yet, but a couple of pages at a time is a joy to study
I love my Abteilung502 oils and my fleet of 11 diesels 9 are still virgins and need some dirt.
I work mostly from photos because I have a heavy weathering hand and not every unit is heavily weathered in real life or a rust bucket.
Thank your Jaz for your posts. You may spur me on to the bench
TLOC
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Paul, those are awesome. In the right setting and you have that yellow cars need IMO heavy dirty weathering without becoming a rust bucket.
The saying less is more isn’t always necessarily true. You could have gone crazy with these but your restraint tells volumes about your talent. Post, post and keep posting, please
Let us know if you have techniques or tips you want to share. Are these weathered from a prototype picture, from memory or a combo? Airbrushed, brush or a combo?
Thanks for sharing
kjd
Go make something!
Thanks, Tom, I've been enjoying the models posted in this thread.
Once I watched one of Kevin Packard's, kpack on YouTube, videos of weathering a BNSF FMC 4400 cuft hopper and copied some of the easier steps.
The MDR/Valdosta car was mostly from a photo. I put a different number on it because I think it's fun when the digits of the number add up to 21, in this case MDR 8382. I first dullcoated the car then applied thin washes of a yellow that was lighter than the original yellow. If the car is wet with plain water, the washes flow and you don't get the runs and drips or hard edges of the color. When it was the lighter yellow I wanted, I added the rusted dents and scratches with small brushes, one of the favorites being a 20/0 round with half the bristles cut off. I use a dark brown for the rust and give that a light wash of orange, I think it makes a convincing rust spot.
The Railbox got a coat of dullcoat and then some orangish/yellow pastel chalk to fade it. I used the craft paints and mixed up a faded blue and red for the arrows and repainted them with my 20/0 brush. Then washes and rust spots/scratches like before. The roof is mostly brush painted brown with some orange wash followed by a dark orange brown chalk. The process is far from precise and a good exercise for my spreadsheet/AutoCad brain to relax a little.
For the above centerbeam, I tried airbrushing a coat of very thin craft paint. It was a very light yellow to mute the brilliant yellow Walthers gave it. After that, washes of various shades of brown with more brown and orange for rust spots. The top is also weathered but it doesn't show well in this photo. The inspiration was from a photo. Coupled to the right is the 'before'. All together, it is probably about 4 hours of trying to create "happy accidents". Eventually, I'll do something besides a yellow car but I still have a few more Railbox...
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