CambriaArea51
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My condolences Louis.
Be sure to pay attention, and not looking at the iPad, when she asks you something. You don't want to be reading something, and give a distracted "mmm-hmm" when she asks, "does this dress make me look fat?"Wife wants to go clothes shopping at the "big mall" here in the Fort today. Looks like a stop at Cheddar's Scratch Kitchen for lunch. I'll take an ipad, since I suspect I'll be sitting and reading most of the time she's looking.
My best to you and the family. It’s very hard to lose Mom. I think of mine everyday and miss her greatly.My Mom passed away peacefully last night at 7:35pm.
Thank you Everybody for all your thoughts and prayers.
God Bless Us Everyone.
Like Saudi Arbia there’s plenty of water for California. For some reason this forward looking progressive State can’t figure out they have an ocean they can convert to fresh water. Desalination by the Saudis and especially the State of Isreal is the model California should follow. Why ban gasoline cars when if there is no fresh water no one can really live there? Or no reason too.You first have to have water. Calf. is lacking in that department.
They have a whole ocean to tap, if they would get their heads out of the clouds.You first have to have water. Calf. is lacking in that department.
Louis: Beth and I extend our condolences on your loss.My Mom passed away peacefully last night at 7:35pm.
Thank you Everybody for all your thoughts and prayers.
God Bless Us Everyone.
There is no logic in the mindset of the Progressive, just dogma. Desalination must be perceived as harmful to aquatic life, because the obvious solution seems to be off the table.Like Saudi Arbia there’s plenty of water for California. For some reason this forward looking progressive State can’t figure out they have an ocean they can convert to fresh water. Desalination by the Saudis and especially the State of Isreal is the model California should follow. Why ban gasoline cars when if there is no fresh water no one can really live there? Or no reason too.
Ok,gonna shove my £1 in here.Like Saudi Arbia there’s plenty of water for California. For some reason this forward looking progressive State can’t figure out they have an ocean they can convert to fresh water. Desalination by the Saudis and especially the State of Isreal is the model California should follow. Why ban gasoline cars when if there is no fresh water no one can really live there? Or no reason too.
It's a logistics question and pretty complicated. There have been pilot experiments with desal in California. First, it's very expensive. It involves membrane technology which isn't cheap. When you're Saudi Arabia and sitting on billions of petro dollars it's easier to pay for. Same for a heavily US subsidized country like Israel. Then you have to look at arable land, and where the people are. Getting the salt out of the water is just part of the problem. You then have to get the water from the oceanside desal plants to where it needs to go. That's more billions in pumps and pipelines. I think California will eventually be forced to do more desal, but it ain't a silver bullet. It also ain't a California problem, it's a worldwide problem. Arizona has it too, along with the rest of the southwest. We've always taken water for granted here. Most folks don't even think about it. It's just always there. Those days are just about over.Like Saudi Arbia there’s plenty of water for California. For some reason this forward looking progressive State can’t figure out they have an ocean they can convert to fresh water. Desalination by the Saudis and especially the State of Isreal is the model California should follow. Why ban gasoline cars when if there is no fresh water no one can really live there? Or no reason too.
Newport Beach area just pushed through a desal plant plan, and the state killed it. For several reasons, but the primary being that NB wanted to build it in an area that is likey to flood soon due to rising ocean levels.There is no logic in the mindset of the Progressive, just dogma. Desalination must be perceived as harmful to aquatic life, because the obvious solution seems to be off the table.
andROSI
Main article: Solar Powered Desalination Unit § ROSI
A solar powered desalination unit designed for remote communities has been tested in the Northern Territory. The reverse osmosis solar installation (ROSI) uses membrane filtration to provide a reliable and clean drinking water stream from sources such as brackish groundwater. Solar energy overcomes the usually high-energy operating costs as well as greenhouse emissions of conventional reverse osmosis systems. A photovoltaic solar array tracks the Sun and powers the pumps needed to process the water, using the plentiful sunlight available in remote regions of Australia not served by the power grid.
In Australia many desalination plants are utilizing wind farms to produce enough energy to operate nearby desalination plants. For example, the Kurnell Desalination Plant, with a capacity of producing 250 million liters (ML) of drinking water per day, supplies 15% of Sydney’s water needs via RO technology and is powered using "100 percent renewable energy" from the 140 MW Capital Wind Farm.[5][6] The Garden Island plant, currently planned for commissioning in 2014, will be powered by wave energy, using Carnegie Wave Energy's CETO system. This system uses submerged buoys to pressurize water offshore, which is piped onshore to either drive turbines for electricity generation or as in this case, to directly desalinate seawater. The Garden Island project is a commercial scale demonstration project, which follows a pilot project off the coast of Fremantle, Western Australia[7]
Construction of Adelaide Desalination Plant
The availability of renewable resources as well as their fluctuation in electricity production from region to region requires a customized design for each desalination facility. In order to maintain steady-state operations many facilities utilize renewable energy while connected to a smart grid, importing or exporting energy to the plant as required. The Perth Seawater Desalination Plant utilizes this strategy where 48 wind turbines produce 80MW on the Emu Downs Wind Farm to provide an overall 24MW to the desalination plant.[8] Electrical energy from the renewable energy can also be stored in storage batteries and utilized when needed. As seen in the PV-powered RO system in Gillen Bore, Australia; producing 1,200 L/d.[9] Or if the plant is not required full-time, it can operate using the power as it becomes available. In 2005 a PV-powered hybrid UF/RO filtration system providing 764 liters per day tolerated well power variation from changing weather conditions.[10]
I am wondering, if the glaciers are melting and desalinating the oceans; wouldn’t us putting salt back in by them using the Ocean water be a plus? Not a climate activist, but wondering if anyone here might be familiar with this field ? I have always believed though that over populating the planet is the biggest issue.There is no logic in the mindset of the Progressive, just dogma. Desalination must be perceived as harmful to aquatic life, because the obvious solution seems to be off the table.
Well....it's not quite that simple. It's much more about cost than anything else. There are also toxic byproducts from desal plants that have to be dealt with. Pretty good read on the subject here. https://www.unep.org/news-and-stori...ocess of,and marine ecosystems unless treated.There is no logic in the mindset of the Progressive, just dogma. Desalination must be perceived as harmful to aquatic life, because the obvious solution seems to be off the table.
