Running Bear's October 2022 Coffee Shop

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The uk has a similar problem on a much smaller scale, some water companies can have plenty or even too much while others do not have enough, but they only chase profits,and do little reinvestment of hardware,and do not want to finance movement of water to another area without serious cash in return, they have no intent to help the country or the people only to fill their own pockets. Some of the UK water systems date back to Victorian times, ie early 1900s which is frankly shocking, and they have leaks which they have no incentive to fix as they are costly. They wait until it is so bad that the government had to bail them out. frankly at that point the government should scoop them up and t a,e ownership which might make them be more responsib,e.
Have to disagree, my daughter worked for a water company, usually well within 24 hrs of a leak being reported engineers were on the scene, also she organised water transfer's between area's where necessary, only hold up was usually lack of available tanker's and driver's due to driving restrictions.
The problem, as usual too many miles of pipes not enough engineers, the only point I agree with you is that the pipes are indeed getting old.
But you have to remember when most of these pipes were laid, the volume and pure weight of the traffic passing overhead was not foreseen.
 
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Well I went to the train show today. A very small show. Like maybe 35 tables. I still managed to find a few items on the cheap though. I got more parts and track cork bed for switches that were pre cut etc. I bought all he had. I also got a few memorabilia items from the Alco #5 switcher that runs locally here near me. It used to be the shop switcher for the ALCO plant and it is the only survivor of all the ALCO switchers that worked at the plant. So I bought a hat, magnet and a print. Going to a good cause! I got a few other I tems but I will post them over on the RPO thread.

Packers lost today pathetic I say! That's all the NFL I watch. I only watch when Packers play. I spent the rest of my day working on the boat winterization. Now I am chillin' lika' villain'..... ;)

My LED lights came in for my 2 passenger cars. My super dome did not come in yet! Ugh....

It's been a very nice day weather wise. I wanted to do some painting but I will do that another day. Maybe this week Tuesday.

I have a few other Ebay items coming to me. TomO has been working up a good deal of weathering on my 2 bay hoppers and they are turning out fantastic!


Ya'll have a good evening!

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Good afternoon. While the g/d and her friend swam and were playing her mom popped in. The grandson team got beat but only 0-1 this time. So his time at the tournament was over and he would have plenty of time to get ready for hockey this afternoon at 5:15. The girls were still in the pool when the daughter arrived and said, now I know why you weren’t responding to my texts. I told her I would bring the g/d home after her and the friend had lunch. The question then was, what r u having? I told her the hamburgers and brats if you want to join us that I grilled last week. If not just hamburgers. Texted the hubby out sitting in the car with the g/s and all of a sudden I have 7 for lunch. The grill got heated up and I finished up grilling 6 hamburgers, 3 brats and one Italian sausage. The grandson and his dad decided to watch the Packers who ended being beaten. The girls and their moms were playing in the pool while I went to the paint booth.
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The last coat of the shading layer applied to the warehouse facade building and the stainless steel fencing got its primer/shading applied. The building will be finished in a concrete gray. The fencing will be finished off in a wash of gray with a drop of light blue
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finally. A great illustration of how our infrastructure is failing us, this time neglect caused by a Texas water utility.
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This was in Hornsby Bend just east of Austin, Texas. The water tower was tilting due to a rusted structure. Photos from my son taken 10/15/2022 who lives maybe a mile away. This tower was above and barely behind the firehouse and EMS station in Hornsby Bend. It is now a part of the Austin fire district with its full time firefighters and EMS supplemented with volunteers.
 


testing....will edit in a minute....if you are ever wondering the history of Eric Brooman's Utah Belt......


Georgia Road Transportation-HO Scale Modern Prototype Freelanced Railroad added 256 new photos to the album: Utah Belt Files.​

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I have just about everything that has ever been published on Eric Brooman's always contemporary Utah Belt Railroad in HO Scale. This is one of a handfull of layout concepts that formed the basic framework for what is becoming my own Georgia Road prototype freelance concept. This file contains scans of articles I purchased in varous model railroad magazines Ind pictures garnered from the internet. This is also the body of information that allowed me to gnerate my own Utah Belt decals for UB run-through equipment that will run the Georgia Road rails.
 
testing....will edit in a minute....if you are ever wondering the history of Eric Brooman's Utah Belt......


Georgia Road Transportation-HO Scale Modern Prototype Freelanced Railroad added 256 new photos to the album: Utah Belt Files.​

otopSrends821207fmhmu16 ttauJ894if7u7n1006600a 5c7626t11,e45 ·
I have just about everything that has ever been published on Eric Brooman's always contemporary Utah Belt Railroad in HO Scale. This is one of a handfull of layout concepts that formed the basic framework for what is becoming my own Georgia Road prototype freelance concept. This file contains scans of articles I purchased in varous model railroad magazines Ind pictures garnered from the internet. This is also the body of information that allowed me to gnerate my own Utah Belt decals for UB run-through equipment that will run the Georgia Road rails.
The Utah Belt has had influence on my modeling over the years. I love how he is able to continually transform his layout to current times. Very dedicated to what he models.
 


All true Boris, but remember a couple of things. Saudi Arabia is a closed society. You can't travel there unless invited, and they take your passport when you enter. They have maybe a little over 10% of our population, and they're a monarchy. They don't compare well with us. Their population is pretty close to that of California. Israel is surrounded by what were until recently hostile neighbors. I agree that desal is going to become more necessary but it has to be done right. Its byproducts are very toxic. For every liter of potable water you produce, you get you get 1.5 liters of toxic byproduct that these days mostly gets dumped back into the ocean. That's what the environmentalists are concerned about, and they're not wrong. That must be dealt with properly, so yes do it but implement the entire solution.
Alan: To a great extent, our strength is in our, (real life-not conceptual), diversity and openness. We send a ton of money abroad, to further our political and commercial interests, not just Israel, but pretty much anyone not directly aligned with the old Soviet Union. My only problem with that is that we are stingy with our own people and solving our own problems, whether they be climate related, covid related, or hunger and homelessness. What can be done with the toxins produced by desal? I didn't know sea salt was that much of a problem...Could they be made less toxic, or even commercially viable? We are always finding unanticipated uses for products. Not for nothing, we consistently screw ourselves, in the name of Conceptual Capitalism, for no good reason, other than to further another competing business.
 
I will admit ignorance on this issue.

How will a nuclear reactor fare in a major Calif earthquake? That would be my primary concern over such.

They can and are making reactors that can withstand very powerful quakes. These are not your father's reactors. I'll see if I can find some info when I have a chance.


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More on nuclear power


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House update. Last weekend (a week ago) on Friday my BIL and nephew-in-law (SIL of the BIL) came down from Wyoming for 2 days to help out. While the framers were working we needed to apply a primer to the outside of the foam to facilitate the waterproofing membrane. We got that started on Friday but mostly it was getting stuff cleaned up, holes patched, walls dusted off, etc. Saturday we primed the whole house and got most of the longest (South) wall done with the membrane application. During the week my son and I and then from Wednesday afternoon through Saturday evening when the BIL came back down, we finished applying the membrane all around the house. So that is pretty much done. We have some left overs that we will use to go around and patch the sorry-looking seems and places where it didn't quite go textbook.

Yesterday we also spent the day grinding concrete, removing strips of OSB we had used as "forms" to create a shelf on the top of the garage wall so that the low, garage side could take the pre-cast garage slab but the higher house side would have concrete covering up the joist hanger "ears" protruding in. Well the guys who poured the concrete into the forms didn't do the best job along the garage in many places and the OSB more or less became concreted-in and we've been trying to remove it. Chisels, pry bars, grinders with concrete grinders and multi-tools with wood cutting blades, etc. We did that yesterday to grind down the high points where concrete got a little higher than where the slab should sit, as well as grinding back concrete that was blobbed on or whatever to make room for the slab, as well as prying off the OSB "forms" and cutting the out of the concrete. We got a lot of it done but I ended up buying 50 cheap wood blades for the oscillating multi-tool (I have a Bosch with an star lock adapter from Oslo Tools in Norway that will take standard blades) and I bought another cheap Kobalt (Lowe's) multi tool so we can run two people this week on the last wall that needs to be done to remove OSB, grind back concreet peaks and blobs, etc. I also bought a 5" Kobalt 24v max grinder on Friday to augment my Bosch 18v 4.5" one. Most of my tools are Bosch but earlier this year when Lowes had a big sale "buy more save more" I ended up buying a few drills, a small hand held saw, and a bunch of things I don't real need but wanted like a handheld orbital sander and router for guitar making, and some other stuff because it was way marked down. So now I have a bunch of Kobalt batteries and my secondary tools where I need extras to keep things going (time is more important than the cost of a second tool that someone can use to work in parallel with me) are often Kobalt as they are reasonably inexpensive, especially when a sale is on. (Lowes seems to be de-emphasizing their 24V Kobalt kine in favor of their new Flex 24V line of tools as the house brand so you can get a lot of cheaper Kobalt stuff). Bosch is still my goto for my main line.

Anyway, the Framers are basically done. They have to finish the porch, the small entry area, and put some stair strings in and cut me some temporary stair treads from LVL that I will eventually replace with nice wood (and in-code) ones for the actual house but for now the LVL ones will work for work-stairs. There is also a doorway they forgot in a bearing wall that goes from the sole bedroom in the basement into a walk in closet which they have the post and wood for but have't put in. And a few other places to touch up.

They put in some gnarly beams to hold up the floor and the walls above including a 24" tall GLU-LAM where they had a specially constructed steel support made to hold it up on one end and the other end rests on a 6"x8" solid post. A 22" GLU-LAM was bolted to that at a right angle and a wall mounted hanger that was specifically constructed as well.

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Alan: To a great extent, our strength is in our, (real life-not conceptual), diversity and openness. We send a ton of money abroad, to further our political and commercial interests, not just Israel, but pretty much anyone not directly aligned with the old Soviet Union. My only problem with that is that we are stingy with our own people and solving our own problems, whether they be climate related, covid related, or hunger and homelessness. What can be done with the toxins produced by desal? I didn't know sea salt was that much of a problem...Could they be made less toxic, or even commercially viable? We are always finding unanticipated uses for products. Not for nothing, we consistently screw ourselves, in the name of Conceptual Capitalism, for no good reason, other than to further another competing business.
Again I pretty much agree across the board. But it isn’t just sea salt. It’s the chlorine and copper also present in the waste water. It can be treated but at many of the current plants this isn’t happening. It needs to. That’s why I said it’s important to implement the entire solution which includes treating the waste.
 
Again I pretty much agree across the board. But it isn’t just sea salt. It’s the chlorine and copper also present in the waste water. It can be treated but at many of the current plants this isn’t happening. It needs to. That’s why I said it’s important to implement the entire solution which includes treating the waste.
Absolutely, no disagreement here at all. If there is sufficient chlorine and copper to be an environmental threat, there is sufficient copper and chlorine to be harnessed for commercial use. This process by use of contemporary technology, can create clean jobs and systems that resolve all issues. We just need to be open minded about it.
 
There may be a big change in my tall viaduct project. I went to order the items I needed and it's over $300.00 for everything. I only budgeted $1000 for the whole lower deck renovation. I don't want to be like James have no money left for the Big E show. I think I'm going to go with 6 Atlas deck truss bridges. Their highly detailed and cheap $9.49. Their 9.75 inches long that 3 X 9.75 = 29.25. The space is 30 inches works out perfectly. Every abutment on my layout is made out of PVC board which I made myself. I can't even find a 2 track 12-inch-tall abutment in stock anywhere. It will end up being a $100.00 job. I'll even buy James lunch at the Big E train show. I know he'll be low on funds at the rate he is buying out hobby stores.
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Morning all,

A chilly 39° currently with a high today expected of 60°. Frost advisory trough 8:00a and then tonight the bottom falls out with an overnight temp of 28°. I hope we get it as the pollen has been bad this year. Suppose to freeze again Tuesday night into Wednesday morning.
Cold enough this morning that as I get closer to the office, the "Low Tire" warning came on in the truck. Usually means 1 tire is lower than the other 3 and always happens when the chilly weather starts. What I hate about these particular sensor (or maybe it's the cheap truck), is they don't say which tire it's reading low. Usually it goes off when it's pouring rain, snowing, or extremely cold wind chills and then you have to check ALL 4 tires to find which one is a little low. I'll probably correct it at lunch time.
 


Absolutely, no disagreement here at all. If there is sufficient chlorine and copper to be an environmental threat, there is sufficient copper and chlorine to be harnessed for commercial use. This process by use of contemporary technology, can create clean jobs and systems that resolve all issues. We just need to be open minded about it.
Many municipalities chlorinate their water to kill off bugs in it. I would think the chlorine byproduct could simply be re-introduced into the water at the end of the process.
 
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