Running Bear's October 2022 Coffee Shop
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California needs water now. But they also need to stop filling the pools, watering the grass and start investing in their water future. With the taxes Californians now pay and the budget surplus they have they may not need Federal help. Unless they give the budget surplus back to the tax payers
Everyone along the West Coast of the USA should be looking into desalination.
Most of the Southwest is natural desert, and a day of reckoning is coming. Something has got to give here. The Southwestern States have to grasp the fact that water is more important than some other initiatives that they prize, and...they all need to be on the same page. The rest of the country has to figure out that climate change is real, and affects everyone to some degree. I don't care what color your politics is, we all need clean air to breathe, and water and we all need a means to earn a living to survive.
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Jaz avalley
Station cat
You had the will to provide for her, I am sorry you have lost her,time will not heal but it will make it less painful. sympathies.
Jaz avalley
Station cat
Only if you return the salt to the sea, but you can use the slot, doh.
Sorry for your loss! I lost my mom in 2004. At least you got to keep her for a good while, though not long enough!
TLOC
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I would think desalination is a much better choice then NO WATER. But then I am not a Californian and like much of the USA have no clue what they are thinking.
California needs water now. But they also need to stop filling the pools, watering the grass and start investing in their water future. With the taxes Californians now pay and the budget surplus they have they may not need Federal help. Unless they give the budget surplus back to the tax payers
Everyone along the West Coast of the USA should be looking into desalination.
TLOC
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I am going to be living through you on this build. I always had hoped for a crossing of a valley like this. But modeling Central Wisconsin there are none. Have fun
Smudge617
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Another thread I need to watch, I know I'm going to learn a lot on this one.
Boris
Beach Bum
Alan: Good points, but remember, we produce at least as much petroleum as Saudi Arabia. Further, if we can afford to subsidize Israel and other countries we damn well ought to spend on public works to benefit ourselves.
Most of the Southwest is natural desert, and a day of reckoning is coming. Something has got to give here. The Southwestern States have to grasp the fact that water is more important than some other initiatives that they prize, and...they all need to be on the same page. The rest of the country has to figure out that climate change is real, and affects everyone to some degree. I don't care what color your politics is, we all need clean air to breathe, and water and we all need a means to earn a living to survive.
Boris
Beach Bum
That is another problem we will have to face at some point...no good off the cuff answers either.
Smudge617
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It's believed by Geologists that Bonneville Salt Flats, at one time, was under 1000' of water and covered 20,000 Sq Miles, that's a large chunk of the Southwest.
logandsawman
Northern Pacific history enthusiast
Good morning all, catching up on yesterday's posts
Louis - sad to hear about your Mother's passing, my condolences to you and your family
Smudge - will definitely move the car first
Chet - no walls, we did not want to block our scenery, also will not have to worry about cluttering up the car port like most garages
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The slab will be 4" thick in front and sidewalk, and 6" in the carport, first board is removable so we can get the truck close, don't want to do extra work!
Decided to make some cat-tails, I think I have some pre made ones somewhere but these will have to do:
I put a dab of brown paint on these grass stems, made them about scale 3 ' long!
will be back tomorrow, Dave LASM
Louis - sad to hear about your Mother's passing, my condolences to you and your family
Smudge - will definitely move the car first
Chet - no walls, we did not want to block our scenery, also will not have to worry about cluttering up the car port like most garages
!The slab will be 4" thick in front and sidewalk, and 6" in the carport, first board is removable so we can get the truck close, don't want to do extra work!
Decided to make some cat-tails, I think I have some pre made ones somewhere but these will have to do:
I put a dab of brown paint on these grass stems, made them about scale 3 ' long!
will be back tomorrow, Dave LASM
All true Boris, but remember a couple of things. Saudi Arabia is a closed society. You can't travel there unless invited, and they take your passport when you enter. They have maybe a little over 10% of our population, and they're a monarchy. They don't compare well with us. Their population is pretty close to that of California. Israel is surrounded by what were until recently hostile neighbors. I agree that desal is going to become more necessary but it has to be done right. Its byproducts are very toxic. For every liter of potable water you produce, you get you get 1.5 liters of toxic byproduct that these days mostly gets dumped back into the ocean. That's what the environmentalists are concerned about, and they're not wrong. That must be dealt with properly, so yes do it but implement the entire solution.
BigGRacing
Aka. Gary Russell
I hear you my friend !
montanan
Whiskey Merchant
Good morning. Again, another night without a lot of sleep.
Louis - I am so sorry to hear about your mom passing away. Along with mourning the loss, you also have to celebrate her life as she touched so many other lives. May she rest in peace.
Ken - I am really getting tired looking at all of the ads about the Camp Lejeune law suite. As you mentioned, the Marines won't get much after the lawyers take over. I wonder if any of them caught the ambulance.
TomO - Like the photos.
Was taking with my son down in Bozeman last night to see if the recession, Yes, I said it, recession, had slowed down home sales. He said not much and that he had 5 subdivisions to lay out before winter. So glad I got out of there. He did mention something that will save me a lot of money and take something off of my bucket list. I was fortunate to have traveled to so many countries when I was in the Navy but due to politics, there were some places that we could not go. Being a train fan, on thing that I really wanted to do was to take a trip on the Trans Siberian Railroad from Vladivostok to Moscow and on to Saint Petersburg. Got a good laugh out of that.
Here are some more photos from the archives.
Time to make lunch and get ready for the NASCAR race at Lost Wages.
Later
Louis - I am so sorry to hear about your mom passing away. Along with mourning the loss, you also have to celebrate her life as she touched so many other lives. May she rest in peace.
Ken - I am really getting tired looking at all of the ads about the Camp Lejeune law suite. As you mentioned, the Marines won't get much after the lawyers take over. I wonder if any of them caught the ambulance.
TomO - Like the photos.
Was taking with my son down in Bozeman last night to see if the recession, Yes, I said it, recession, had slowed down home sales. He said not much and that he had 5 subdivisions to lay out before winter. So glad I got out of there. He did mention something that will save me a lot of money and take something off of my bucket list. I was fortunate to have traveled to so many countries when I was in the Navy but due to politics, there were some places that we could not go. Being a train fan, on thing that I really wanted to do was to take a trip on the Trans Siberian Railroad from Vladivostok to Moscow and on to Saint Petersburg. Got a good laugh out of that.
Here are some more photos from the archives.
Time to make lunch and get ready for the NASCAR race at Lost Wages.
Later
Jaz avalley
Station cat
The uk has a similar problem on a much smaller scale, some water companies can have plenty or even too much while others do not have enough, but they only chase profits,and do little reinvestment of hardware,and do not want to finance movement of water to another area without serious cash in return, they have no intent to help the country or the people only to fill their own pockets. Some of the UK water systems date back to Victorian times, ie early 1900s which is frankly shocking, and they have leaks which they have no incentive to fix as they are costly. They wait until it is so bad that the government had to bail them out. frankly at that point the government should scoop them up and t a,e ownership which might make them be more responsib,e.
santafewillie
Same Ol' Buzzard
Good Afternoon All.
Louis - First, let me express my condolences for the loss of your mother. Let the celebration of her life begin.
Cloudy here and 67°, about 0.75" of rain fell overnight while we were gone. Looks like more on the way which is light and also scattered. May or may not get more. Three more days with highs in the upper 60's before returning to the 70's Thursday; with a possible freeze Tuesday night. That's kinda early for a freeze here, but it has happened before. Average first frost for us is November 22.
Lots of catching up to do here in the Coffee Shop, as well as the rest of the forum. Meanwhile our 50th Anniversary Celebration last night went well. While all of the invited guests were well known to us, it was an opportunity for my side of the family to intermingle with my wife's side; and all to also intermingle with some of our friends that we have had since college over 50 years ago. We stayed at our daughter's home, so I was able to party and stay up until after midnight! Don't do that often. One thing that I wasn't expecting, since I have never done this before, was the gifts! We scored three bottles of wine, one of Champagne, four pounds of rib steaks, and cash and gift cards worth $500. Plus a wonderful catered Mexican meal of beef and chicken fajitas. There was also a magnum of champagne, lots of wine, beer and a Margarita machine.
Thanks for the many likes and comments regarding the feline photoshow yesterday morning.
No I didn't get into the train shed since Friday night, so no progress on any project. I was working on some stuff that I didn't post yet, and I also completed painting on many figures. I had the painting project stuff out and did the Camero taillights, although under magnification or with a photograph it looks a bit sloppy.
Painted the headlights silver as well.
Louis -
Joe - OK, I did go to Trader Joe's this morning. Very eclectic selection of groceries that my wife says changes all of the time. Prices seemed reasonable unlike Central Market or Whole Foods. We each picked up a few things. If there was one closer than 70 miles away, I would probably add it to the grocery trek itinerary every so often. I already do that with Sam's Club, although not as much as I should.
Ken (D&J) - Aren't all of these class-action lawsuits about making money for attorneys??? I recently got $3.64 in free tuna from one company from a class-action suit that I signed up for six years prior.
Troy -
Gary - Nice photos from the show.
A lot of good posts regarding water batteries, desalinization and Camp LaJuene since I last posted. I don't have the time to respond or comment on many of them.
I'm headed out to the train shed now, before it rains
Everyone have a great rest of the day.
Louis - First, let me express my condolences for the loss of your mother. Let the celebration of her life begin.
Cloudy here and 67°, about 0.75" of rain fell overnight while we were gone. Looks like more on the way which is light and also scattered. May or may not get more. Three more days with highs in the upper 60's before returning to the 70's Thursday; with a possible freeze Tuesday night. That's kinda early for a freeze here, but it has happened before. Average first frost for us is November 22.
Lots of catching up to do here in the Coffee Shop, as well as the rest of the forum. Meanwhile our 50th Anniversary Celebration last night went well. While all of the invited guests were well known to us, it was an opportunity for my side of the family to intermingle with my wife's side; and all to also intermingle with some of our friends that we have had since college over 50 years ago. We stayed at our daughter's home, so I was able to party and stay up until after midnight! Don't do that often. One thing that I wasn't expecting, since I have never done this before, was the gifts! We scored three bottles of wine, one of Champagne, four pounds of rib steaks, and cash and gift cards worth $500. Plus a wonderful catered Mexican meal of beef and chicken fajitas. There was also a magnum of champagne, lots of wine, beer and a Margarita machine.
Thanks for the many likes and comments regarding the feline photoshow yesterday morning.
No I didn't get into the train shed since Friday night, so no progress on any project. I was working on some stuff that I didn't post yet, and I also completed painting on many figures. I had the painting project stuff out and did the Camero taillights, although under magnification or with a photograph it looks a bit sloppy.
Painted the headlights silver as well.
Louis -
Interesting that they only did it in their larger plastic bottles. The 12 oz can still predominates.
Joe - OK, I did go to Trader Joe's this morning. Very eclectic selection of groceries that my wife says changes all of the time. Prices seemed reasonable unlike Central Market or Whole Foods. We each picked up a few things. If there was one closer than 70 miles away, I would probably add it to the grocery trek itinerary every so often. I already do that with Sam's Club, although not as much as I should.
Ken (D&J) - Aren't all of these class-action lawsuits about making money for attorneys??? I recently got $3.64 in free tuna from one company from a class-action suit that I signed up for six years prior.
Troy -
This sentence reminded me of an incident with my son and my brother in 2000. At a family "after wedding reception" gathering one night, my son who was 17 at the time, along with a couple of his cousins slid over to the bar and poured themselves a Maker's Mark and coke. My brother saw it and went over to admonish them. My son thought that he was in real trouble when my brother started saying "No, No, No," he thought that he was busted. Then my brother explained that you never mix good whisky with anything but ice cubes. One nephew was also schooled but the other got away.
Gary - Nice photos from the show.
A lot of good posts regarding water batteries, desalinization and Camp LaJuene since I last posted. I don't have the time to respond or comment on many of them.
I'm headed out to the train shed now, before it rains
Everyone have a great rest of the day.
PRR Modeler
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Afternoon All,
Enjoyed the skunk show and friend's birthday yesterday. Today in the train room I drew out a schematic of the wiring for the crossing signals. They are much more complicated (easy to get wrong) compared to LRT block animators
. Tomorrow I was going to solder the resistors onto the signal leads but that appears to be OBE. Dad wants me to drive him around to get a winter coat and boots (OH in January). I hate clothes shopping.
It appears my viewing issues are fixed with Acorn. It only took from 8/27 to fix it.
Louis- My deepest condolences to you and your family on the passing of your Mother.
Terry- Sorry to hear about the decline of your LHS.
Gary- Those are some great dioramas.
Chet- Great memories but probably bittersweet.
Willie- Congrats on your 50th wedding anniversay.
I hope everyone has a good night.
Enjoyed the skunk show and friend's birthday yesterday. Today in the train room I drew out a schematic of the wiring for the crossing signals. They are much more complicated (easy to get wrong) compared to LRT block animators
. Tomorrow I was going to solder the resistors onto the signal leads but that appears to be OBE. Dad wants me to drive him around to get a winter coat and boots (OH in January). I hate clothes shopping.It appears my viewing issues are fixed with Acorn. It only took from 8/27 to fix it.
Louis- My deepest condolences to you and your family on the passing of your Mother.
Terry- Sorry to hear about the decline of your LHS.
Gary- Those are some great dioramas.
Chet- Great memories but probably bittersweet.
Willie- Congrats on your 50th wedding anniversay.
I hope everyone has a good night.
TLOC
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Thank You. I am going to have read up more on desalination as I was not aware of the toxic left overs. Dumping it back in the ocean is no an option in my mind.
TLOC
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Beautiful pictures. It’s great to have the pictures for a fallen layout. You did well Chet!
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