You had the will to provide for her, I am sorry you have lost her,time will not heal but it will make it less painful. sympathies.My Mom passed away peacefully last night at 7:35pm.
Thank you Everybody for all your thoughts and prayers.
God Bless Us Everyone.
Only if you return the salt to the sea, but you can use the slot, doh.There is no logic in the mindset of the Progressive, just dogma. Desalination must be perceived as harmful to aquatic life, because the obvious solution seems to be off the table.
Sorry for your loss! I lost my mom in 2004. At least you got to keep her for a good while, though not long enough!My Mom passed away peacefully last night at 7:35pm.
Thank you Everybody for all your thoughts and prayers.
God Bless Us Everyone.
I would think desalination is a much better choice then NO WATER. But then I am not a Californian and like much of the USA have no clue what they are thinking.Ok,gonna shove my £1 in here.
a) no one is willing to invest in such a project without substantial government backing ($ )
B) Price to the customer of water if built would rise dramatically, to the point it would have to be subsidised by uncle Sam.
Infrastructure to get the water to wherever it was needed would also cost billions, with no guarantee that it would be actually needed when complete.
California needs water now ok, but will it need it next year?, or the year after? If there's no guarantee of being needed there's no guarantee of profit, so it's not going to be built.
I am going to be living through you on this build. I always had hoped for a crossing of a valley like this. But modeling Central Wisconsin there are none. Have funI'm going to be moving this thread to the structure's forum today. This is where I'm at in the project. I can see it's going to be a very long project. I'll be using the 4 Walthers steel bridge towers, two 70' and four 50' deck bridges that may have to be cut down to 41/2 inches to the exact measurement. I had to make a few bent mockups to make sure everything will fit in the 30" space. The 2 track main makes everything more difficult.
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Another thread I need to watch, I know I'm going to learn a lot on this one.I'm going to be moving this thread to the structure's forum today. This is where I'm at in the project. I can see it's going to be a very long project. I'll be using the 4 Walthers steel bridge towers, two 70' and four 50' deck bridges that may have to be cut down to 41/2 inches to the exact measurement. I had to make a few bent mockups to make sure everything will fit in the 30" space. The 2 track main makes everything more difficult.
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Alan: Good points, but remember, we produce at least as much petroleum as Saudi Arabia. Further, if we can afford to subsidize Israel and other countries we damn well ought to spend on public works to benefit ourselves.It's a logistics question and pretty complicated. There have been pilot experiments with desal in California. First, it's very expensive. It involves membrane technology which isn't cheap. When you're Saudi Arabia and sitting on billions of petro dollars it's easier to pay for. Same for a heavily US subsidized country like Israel. Then you have to look at arable land, and where the people are. Getting the salt out of the water is just part of the problem. You then have to get the water from the oceanside desal plants to where it needs to go. That's more billions in pumps and pipelines. I think California will eventually be forced to do more desal, but it ain't a silver bullet. It also ain't a California problem, it's a worldwide problem. Arizona has it too, along with the rest of the southwest. We've always taken water for granted here. Most folks don't even think about it. It's just always there. Those days are just about over.
That is another problem we will have to face at some point...no good off the cuff answers either.I have always believed though that over populating the planet is the biggest issue.
It's believed by Geologists that Bonneville Salt Flats, at one time, was under 1000' of water and covered 20,000 Sq Miles, that's a large chunk of the Southwest.Alan: Good points, but remember, we produce at least as much petroleum as Saudi Arabia. Further, if we can afford to subsidize Israel and other countries we damn well ought to spend on public works to benefit ourselves.
Most of the Southwest is natural desert, and a day of reckoning is coming. Something has got to give here. The Southwestern States have to grasp the fact that water is more important than some other initiatives that they prize, and...they all need to be on the same page. The rest of the country has to figure out that climate change is real, and affects everyone to some degree. I don't care what color your politics is, we all need clean air to breathe, and water and we all need a means to earn a living to survive.
!All true Boris, but remember a couple of things. Saudi Arabia is a closed society. You can't travel there unless invited, and they take your passport when you enter. They have maybe a little over 10% of our population, and they're a monarchy. They don't compare well with us. Their population is pretty close to that of California. Israel is surrounded by what were until recently hostile neighbors. I agree that desal is going to become more necessary but it has to be done right. Its byproducts are very toxic. For every liter of potable water you produce, you get you get 1.5 liters of toxic byproduct that these days mostly gets dumped back into the ocean. That's what the environmentalists are concerned about, and they're not wrong. That must be dealt with properly, so yes do it but implement the entire solution.Alan: Good points, but remember, we produce at least as much petroleum as Saudi Arabia. Further, if we can afford to subsidize Israel and other countries we damn well ought to spend on public works to benefit ourselves.
Most of the Southwest is natural desert, and a day of reckoning is coming. Something has got to give here. The Southwestern States have to grasp the fact that water is more important than some other initiatives that they prize, and...they all need to be on the same page. The rest of the country has to figure out that climate change is real, and affects everyone to some degree. I don't care what color your politics is, we all need clean air to breathe, and water and we all need a means to earn a living to survive.
I hear you my friend !That is another problem we will have to face at some point...no good off the cuff answers either.
The uk has a similar problem on a much smaller scale, some water companies can have plenty or even too much while others do not have enough, but they only chase profits,and do little reinvestment of hardware,and do not want to finance movement of water to another area without serious cash in return, they have no intent to help the country or the people only to fill their own pockets. Some of the UK water systems date back to Victorian times, ie early 1900s which is frankly shocking, and they have leaks which they have no incentive to fix as they are costly. They wait until it is so bad that the government had to bail them out. frankly at that point the government should scoop them up and t a,e ownership which might make them be more responsib,e.Alan: Good points, but remember, we produce at least as much petroleum as Saudi Arabia. Further, if we can afford to subsidize Israel and other countries we damn well ought to spend on public works to benefit ourselves.
Most of the Southwest is natural desert, and a day of reckoning is coming. Something has got to give here. The Southwestern States have to grasp the fact that water is more important than some other initiatives that they prize, and...they all need to be on the same page. The rest of the country has to figure out that climate change is real, and affects everyone to some degree. I don't care what color your politics is, we all need clean air to breathe, and water and we all need a means to earn a living to survive.
Interesting that they only did it in their larger plastic bottles. The 12 oz can still predominates.Terry, I have always wondered why Coke, Pepsi and other soft drinks were able to go metric, when not much else did.
This sentence reminded me of an incident with my son and my brother in 2000. At a family "after wedding reception" gathering one night, my son who was 17 at the time, along with a couple of his cousins slid over to the bar and poured themselves a Maker's Mark and coke. My brother saw it and went over to admonish them. My son thought that he was in real trouble when my brother started saying "No, No, No," he thought that he was busted. Then my brother explained that you never mix good whisky with anything but ice cubes. One nephew was also schooled but the other got away.Evening whiskey is poured. 1867... supposedly a good year in Canada. That's the brand name, not the vintage.
Thank You. I am going to have read up more on desalination as I was not aware of the toxic left overs. Dumping it back in the ocean is no an option in my mind.All true Boris, but remember a couple of things. Saudi Arabia is a closed society. You can't travel there unless invited, and they take your passport when you enter. They have maybe a little over 10% of our population, and they're a monarchy. They don't compare well with us. Their population is pretty close to that of California. Israel is surrounded by what were until recently hostile neighbors. I agree that desal is going to become more necessary but it has to be done right. Its byproducts are very toxic. For every liter of potable water you produce, you get you get 1.5 liters of toxic byproduct that these days mostly gets dumped back into the ocean. That's what the environmentalists are concerned about, and they're not wrong. That must be dealt with properly, so yes do it but implement the entire solution.
Beautiful pictures. It’s great to have the pictures for a fallen layout. You did well Chet!Good morning. Again, another night without a lot of sleep.
Louis - I am so sorry to hear about your mom passing away. Along with mourning the loss, you also have to celebrate her life as she touched so many other lives. May she rest in peace.
Ken - I am really getting tired looking at all of the ads about the Camp Lejeune law suite. As you mentioned, the Marines won't get much after the lawyers take over. I wonder if any of them caught the ambulance.
TomO - Like the photos.
Was taking with my son down in Bozeman last night to see if the recession, Yes, I said it, recession, had slowed down home sales. He said not much and that he had 5 subdivisions to lay out before winter. So glad I got out of there. He did mention something that will save me a lot of money and take something off of my bucket list. I was fortunate to have traveled to so many countries when I was in the Navy but due to politics, there were some places that we could not go. Being a train fan, on thing that I really wanted to do was to take a trip on the Trans Siberian Railroad from Vladivostok to Moscow and on to Saint Petersburg. Got a good laugh out of that.
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Time to make lunch and get ready for the NASCAR race at Lost Wages.
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