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Since were talking about Fords. Only owned 1 Ford in my life, that was enough!

Q: What do you get when you crash a Ford Focus with a Ford Fiesta?

A: A Ford Fusion.


Q: Why are so many Hotwheels based after Ford models?

A: So kids get used to pushing them at a young age
What is amazing, European build Fords are another story. Some of the coolest Fords did come from Europe. Escort and it's replacement are totally different quality over in Europe. The one Ford that was actually developed in the States and qualifies as one of the top sports/GT cars of all times is the GT40, as developed for the LeMans race. After some early development problems, it absolutely dominated the race kicking Ferraris as$. True it was developed from a european inspired car, but it was actually built and tested in the States. Some of the British enthusiasts here on the forum can probably attest to that, European Escort back in late 60s and 70s was an excellent choice for numerous rallyes around Europe. What not many Americans know about was the specially developed Rally car which would probably dominate European rallyes, but Ford quit before the car was fully developed-the RS200. 1980s Escorts, same thing, sweet cars, the American versions, although recognizeable developement of its European counterparts, not so good. Some may remember a marque called "Merkur", there was a Scorpio (Ford Scorpio in Europe)and XR4i, (Ford Sierra),both actually European Fords. Unfortunatelly when Americans tried building European designed Fords, they used substandard parts and didn't put quality in their workmanship. This is why Ford doesn't have the quality it does in Europe, and that's on Americans. Trucks are pretty good, the older ones though.
 
I was just needling Karl. It's what I do.

I only built one high performance engine. A 302 Ford, with a 2.75 - 9" rear I never got close to top speed. After that got stolen, I never built another one.

I drive exclusively Chevys now. My cousin works at a Chevy dealer. Loyalty to family is more important than brand loyalty. Except for Lionel, that's a horse of another color!

Like I tell my grandsons "Always do the right thing, regardless of risk or reward" "Sometimes good things happen for you if you do, sometimes" Sometimes "no good deed goes unpunished"

The Chevys I've bought have been the most reliable cars I ever owned. Not even my BMW came close to my Chevys. My Fords, Lincoln, and Mercury. forget about it, no contest.

"Baseball, Hotdogs, Apple Pie and Cheverolet!"

😁
Out of the 40 something vehicles I have owned, my single venture into Ford land (a 1990 F 150) ended up at the very bottom of my reliability list. That was a 5.0/auto and when the 5.0 decided to leave this world in a big way at 57K miles, I sold it for junk. It was always hunting gears, the abs system wouldn't lock the rear wheels up at a stop (think about that on ice), and the paint was falling off on the way home from the dealer. It was repainted on recall but since the actual cause of that wasn't addressed, the repaint quickly followed the original.

However I'll have to admit the 2012 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon did try to wrest away that bottom spot. I'll never purchase another Ford or Jeep, at least a Jeep that Chrysler, Mercedes, Fiat, or Stellantis had anything whatsoever to do with. I still like the older ones. I'm also a Chevy fan and I still like playing with the Gen I V8's. Like a big boy's tinker toy set with pretty much unlimited possibilities.
 
What is amazing, European build Fords are another story. Some of the coolest Fords did come from Europe. Escort and it's replacement are totally different quality over in Europe. The one Ford that was actually developed in the States and qualifies as one of the top sports/GT cars of all times is the GT40, as developed for the LeMans race. After some early development problems, it absolutely dominated the race kicking Ferraris as$. True it was developed from a european inspired car, but it was actually built and tested in the States. Some of the British enthusiasts here on the forum can probably attest to that, European Escort back in late 60s and 70s was an excellent choice for numerous rallyes around Europe. What not many Americans know about was the specially developed Rally car which would probably dominate European rallyes, but Ford quit before the car was fully developed-the RS200. 1980s Escorts, same thing, sweet cars, the American versions, although recognizeable developement of its European counterparts, not so good. Some may remember a marque called "Merkur", there was a Scorpio (Ford Scorpio in Europe)and XR4i, (Ford Sierra),both actually European Fords. Unfortunatelly when Americans tried building European designed Fords, they used substandard parts and didn't put quality in their workmanship. This is why Ford doesn't have the quality it does in Europe, and that's on Americans. Trucks are pretty good, the older ones though.

I've never had a Ford but living in Germany did see a lot of European Fords.

One reason that the European Fords in America weren't the same is that they had to follow the US Highway Safety rules and stuff as well as emissions. Back in the 80s they were much more stringent than in Europe. (Newer European standards are more similar to the US standards). So they had to add the catalytic converters, better crumple zones, big bumpers, etc. Also, there was the unfortunate attitude (that still exists -- VW doesn't send hardly any of their cool cars to the SU for example) that Americans only want fat-•ss boat type cars with power everythimng, super soft and comfortable ride, etc. So they "dumb down" the cars for the American market.

My sister had a friend back in the early 90s who had the Merkur in the US. Living in Germany at the time and just in the US for a visit I was well versed with the various "Sierra" type cars on which it was based. (Wasn't the Scorpio a bigger version of the same general design?) I took a ride in it and it was quite nice but still fat and ungainly in comparison with the big bumpers and "luxe" they had added.

Personally I've only had German cars since 1988. (My Dodge RAM are German since they were made by Daimler Chrysler :) with a German CEO -- but trucks aren't cars). The only exception was an old beat up used Mazda GLC I bought in Germany for around 750 USD worth of DM after ,y Golf was totalled in a 64 car pileup on the Autobahn (A92 by Landshut on Feb 27 1992 in the fog -- no I didn't cause it -- I was in the middle of the pileup) and I needed cheap car while things worked their way through insurance and stuff. Oh, and we did have one Volvo after the VW dieselgate and we bought a Volvo V60 with Sweden delivery but that car was wiped out by an idiot who turned into her from a side street. It was replaced with a Jetta since we could basically pay cash for it. Since 88 everything was a VW with one Audi, and the used GLC and the Volvo thrown in.

I personally have no room for a Chevy -- I find GM arrogant and the cars butt ugly. But it's personal opinion and I'm not judging others. Ford doesn't interest me either.
 
I've never had a Ford but living in Germany did see a lot of European Fords.

One reason that the European Fords in America weren't the same is that they had to follow the US Highway Safety rules and stuff as well as emissions. Back in the 80s they were much more stringent than in Europe. (Newer European standards are more similar to the US standards). So they had to add the catalytic converters, better crumple zones, big bumpers, etc. Also, there was the unfortunate attitude (that still exists -- VW doesn't send hardly any of their cool cars to the SU for example) that Americans only want fat-•ss boat type cars with power everythimng, super soft and comfortable ride, etc. So they "dumb down" the cars for the American market.

My sister had a friend back in the early 90s who had the Merkur in the US. Living in Germany at the time and just in the US for a visit I was well versed with the various "Sierra" type cars on which it was based. (Wasn't the Scorpio a bigger version of the same general design?) I took a ride in it and it was quite nice but still fat and ungainly in comparison with the big bumpers and "luxe" they had added.

Personally I've only had German cars since 1988. (My Dodge RAM are German since they were made by Daimler Chrysler :) with a German CEO -- but trucks aren't cars). The only exception was an old beat up used Mazda GLC I bought in Germany for around 750 USD worth of DM after ,y Golf was totalled in a 64 car pileup on the Autobahn (A92 by Landshut on Feb 27 1992 in the fog -- no I didn't cause it -- I was in the middle of the pileup) and I needed cheap car while things worked their way through insurance and stuff. Oh, and we did have one Volvo after the VW dieselgate and we bought a Volvo V60 with Sweden delivery but that car was wiped out by an idiot who turned into her from a side street. It was replaced with a Jetta since we could basically pay cash for it. Since 88 everything was a VW with one Audi, and the used GLC and the Volvo thrown in.

I personally have no room for a Chevy -- I find GM arrogant and the cars butt ugly. But it's personal opinion and I'm not judging others. Ford doesn't interest me either.
Yep, same with my vehicle choice. Mostly European, German cars fit like a glove. Had two Japanese vehicles: Subaru Forester 2003 which was eating itself from rust. Had a Nissan 300Z (1990), which was cool to drive around tight corners, but again quality issues caused a fast resale. Big on VW, currently an old Audi 100 (spare) as a go to work and groceries car. Back in 2004 went against my dads advice about getting a house...got a 1988 Porsche 911 Carrera instead, hey you only live once and i can blame him for it, since he sent me a Matchbox model from Austria when i was about 7, that dream was fulfilled😁. Regretting to this day not getting a 1991 Mercedes TE station wagon for allmost a steal of a price. Had also an Eagle Medalion after my dad (Renault 21), excellent car and the only downside was the eventuall impossibility finding parts in the States for it.
 
Also, there was the unfortunate attitude (that still exists -- VW doesn't send hardly any of their cool cars to the SU for example) that Americans only want fat-•ss boat type cars with power everythimng, super soft and comfortable ride, etc. So they "dumb down" the cars for the American market.
A major problem, especially since the market for more sporty European vehicles is pretty big. No Scirrocco for example. So American driving enthusiasts are stuck with Asian models.
 


It has been a while. Had all sorts of things happening in my absence from the forum. Got the wrong computer parts, 3 times. This is a test to see if the part they sent is going to work. Figured as along as I am on the 'puter, I should check in.

Made another trip to Bozman to see the kids and grandkids and take care of some business. Also made a couple of trips to Idaho to visit my friend who shattered her wrist. She did manage to get a new pup to be her service dog.

Last week was a bummer. I had to go to Kalispell for eye surgery. I had Entropian which was the lower eye lash curving in and scratching the eyeball. Sort of like having an 80 grit eyelid. The operation went fine and now that I am running out of ointment that blurs vision I can see clearly now. I think there was a sone about that.

15 miles out of Libby headed to the eye clinic, a deer hit me which will most likely total the car. I was going to give it to my daughter but that probably won't happen.

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It wasn't fun trying to drive back to town looking, or trying to look through that windshield. Due to the age of the car, it would be a total to an insurance company. If I brought to to my shop in Bozeman, I could repair it. The fender is aluminum and readily available. The headlight is easy to get as well as the windshield and drivers window and side view mirror glass, but that wrinkle on the roof would be difficult but not impossible by any means.

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The previous Monday I did buy another car as I was going to give this one away. Found a 1997 Riviera by Buick. I has the same 3800 V-6 as the other one that easily gets good fuel mileage in the low 30's on the road. Not a scratch or a mark on it and only h ad 57,500 miles on it. $3,500.


And best of all, NO FLIPPIN' TOUCHSCREEN. I hate those things. Having been an accident investigator, I see them as an accident waiting to happen.
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Sorry if I bored you. It's not train stuff. Gotta run a couple of tests to see if the part they sent will work. It is supposed to be a direct replacement.

LATER
 

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Also, there was the unfortunate attitude (that still exists -- VW doesn't send hardly any of their cool cars to the SU for example) that Americans only want fat-•ss boat type cars with power everythimng, super soft and comfortable ride, etc. So they "dumb down" the cars for the American market.

Well, maybe some of us, but certainly not all. I'm still a believer in Enzo Ferrari's supposed quote, "Jeep is America's only true sports car" maybe if he didn't even say that. But if he did, certainly only applies to CJ Jeeps.

Power disc brakes and power steering but that's it and the AC is take off the top and tie down the windshield. It still had the 381 sbc in it for that photo and perhaps British vernacular, the "coach work" is all aluminum and fiberglass. The engine grew another 60 cid for the latest version. Never fails to put a rather large poop eating grin on my face and has been doing so since the first sbc (a 327) went in in 1973.
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It has been a while. Had all sorts of things happening in my absence from the forum. Got the wrong computer parts, 3 times. This is a test to see if the part they sent is going to work. Figured as along as I am on the 'puter, I should check in.
Made another trip to Bozman to see the kids and grandkids and take care of some business. Also made a couple of trips to Idaho to visit my friend who shattered her wrist. She did manage to get a new pup to be her service dog.

Last week was a bummer. I had to go to Kalispell for eye surgery. I had Entropian which was the lower eye lash curving in and scratching the eyeball. Sort of like having an 80 grit eyelid. The operation went fine and now that I am running out of ointment that blurs vision I can see clearly now. I think there was a sone about that.

i5 miles out of Libby headed to the eye clinic, a deer hit me which will most likely total the car. I was going to give it to my daughter but that probably won't happen.

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It wasn't fun trying to drive back to town looking, or trying to look through that windshield. Due to the age of the car, it would be a total to an insurance company. If I brought to to my shop in Bozeman, I could repair it. The fender is aluminum and readily available. The headlight is easy to get as well as the windshield and drivers window and side view mirror glass, but that wrinkle on the roof would be difficult but not impossible by any means.

The previous Monday I did buy another car as I was going to give this one away. Found a 1997 Riviera by Buick. I has the same 3800 V-6 as the other one that easily gets good fuel mileage in the low 30's on the road. Not a scratch or a mark on it and only had 57,500 miles on it.

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And best of all, NO FLIPPIN' TOUCHSCREEN. I hate those things. Having been an accident investigator, I see them as an accident waiting to happen.
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Sorry if I bored you. It's not train stuff. Gotta run a couple of tests to see if the part they sent will work. It is supposed to be a direct replacement.

LATER
Chet you can’t go wrong with that 3900. Probably the best GM engine since the SBC,
 
Well, maybe some of us, but certainly not all. I'm still a believer in Enzo Ferrari's supposed quote, "Jeep is America's only true sports car" maybe if he didn't even say that. But if he did, certainly only applies to CJ Jeeps.

Power disc brakes and power steering but that's it and the AC is take off the top and tie down the windshield. It still had the 381 sbc in it for that photo and perhaps British vernacular, the "coach work" is all aluminum and fiberglass. The engine grew another 60 cid for the latest version. Never fails to put a rather large poop eating grin on my face and has been doing so since the first sbc (a 327) went in in 1973.
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Real Jeep, not the luxury "Mall Crawlers" i see in Phily, New York area.
 
Everything okay?
Yes. Cardiologist visit and she's good for the colonoscopy. Some reason she needed that before they could proceed.

Tomatoes starting to come fast, and they are bigger than I usually get. Sliced, they cover a slice of sandwich bread.

Sitting with my arm on a pillow and out of the sling. Was cleared to drive again, which the controlling part of me is in favor of.

Have a good evening.
 
A major problem, especially since the market for more sporty European vehicles is pretty big. No Scirrocco for example. So American driving enthusiasts are stuck with Asian models.
Yes but the new GLI is one of the cheapest sport sedans available now in manual :) in the US. But in general VW model for the last decades has generally been to Americanfy and stoopidify their cars in the US market. I mean, I like the wife's Jetta (2019 SEL Premium) for what it isbut its not exactly a VW feeling car to drive (though more so than a lot of cars and still feels like it from the inside seat). Despite the wife being from Japan and my dad having been a long time Honda guy, Japanese cars have never done it for me... Too much bling and buttons and gratuitousness. Again, this is just me and my personal feelings. Not knocking anyones car here. My car is a 2016 Audi A3 e-tron sportback PHEV which I got after VW bought back my diesel Jetta Sportwagen and I got a really good deal since they weren't selling well as no one knew what they were. Not the highest performing car as it has a version of the same VW 1.4l turbo but adds the electric motor for instantaneous power as needed but its highly efficient, relatively tight feeling, and the cockpit feels right to me :)

But as an old dad-bod guy my days of needing "performance" are past. I want well performing (not necessairly sporty) highly efficient cars that feel right to drive. I've always liked the Euro (German) tight, kind of feel the road, go where I point it style of driving.

Enough stream of conciousness
 
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Sorry guys, but there hasn't been a VW that caught my attention since I bought my '61 Beetle used in '72; for $400! It already had 150K miles (presumed since the odometer had only 5 digits) and I added another 200K by the time I sold it in '78.
Here it is memorialized on my layout with me, my wife and my BIL, all at 1978 weight!:rolleyes:
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