Weathering Rolling Stock, a Continous thread

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Hutch said:
Funny, up until this drama. I never was a regular in the diner. I preferred reading new posts in their own sections, I could quickly see if it might interest me just by the section it was in.

I like sharing the hobby talk and not so much the personal stuff so I probably missed a lot, that's ok. I like Tony and his attitude as well. I only wish he would pop in and say something. Maybe too much has been read into the red letters. Maybe not enough by me I don't know.
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Hutch

I start with an early morning, seldom watch TV and do not start my modeling time until at least 10am. So, I have time since I greatly reduced my online presence elsewhere. I start with the what’s new and check to see at the beginning of the thread if it’s of interest. I started my Continous weathering threads because I was asked in the Diner to give step by step. It has grown from there.

IMO, it’s more than the use of red letters. But Tony is a good guy, has a wonderful attitude, wants to share his modeling and is a guy I definitely could and want to share a diet Dr Pepper or something with. With Terry stepping back, switching jobs and being married to the porcelain throne the last week or so things got a bit out of control.

Person sharing is an individual expression. I share too much but not all…

Thanks for commenting
Tom
 
On the one hand I feel sorry for the mod, been there done that had the t shirt,and burned out gave away my Facebook railway discussion account before it burned me out, from his (Tony) response I assume someone who won’t own up lit a serious bonfire under his posterior, as Troy said red letters! Very ott in my opnion, a gentler reminder would likely have been adhered to for a while then we would get back to normal and another nudge,(Terry patiently keeps our politics and o there under control despite we return to annoy) but it is totally clear that there was a serious history of showing off modelling, and the clientele in genereral were very happy with that being the case, very little snarky remarks not even from Troy :) are exceptionally rare,
that. Place was one of the friendliest places I have visited when I arrived I adored the atmosphere and loved people showing off their work so I could investigate further if they stirred my interest, which is exactly how I ended up posting here on my favourite thread in the whole forum, because I adore weathering, both threads wagons and locos from 2 gifted modellers make my day every time new work is displayed, both Toms thank you.
I am annoyed that the person who had the issue clearly did not want to hold their own hand up and pushed Tony out in centre stage, and does not have the guts to stand up for him either. I meanly suspect one person but won’t spread unsubstantiated rumours as that is lower even than the original act. do I feel sorry for Tony - yes, BUT I love that dxmn (apologies to children :( ) coffee shop and some one just caused it to be smashed wide open. Do I want it fixed yes, but am I willing to keep going there if the Likes of Willie and other very established posters are forced/pushed out, hxll

no at that point I personally will just continue visiting those threads of the friends I have made, because their work is too good to miss. annoying I may be, but I am loyal. Where that leaves me with say Bruette and others who I only chat to in the coffee shop causes me angst but I just cannot continue there if Willie and others are pushed out. I would choke on my breakfast.

Why do people have to spoil others fun,many of us do not follow every conversation and scroll past what we do not want to participate,why could they just not scroll past instead of throw a Doberman into the diner!
 
Jaz avalley said:
On the one hand I feel sorry for the mod, been there done that had the t shirt,and burned out gave away my Facebook railway discussion account before it burned me out, from his (Tony) response I assume someone who won’t own up lit a serious bonfire under his posterior, as Troy said red letters! Very ott in my opnion, a gentler reminder would likely have been adhered to for a while then we would get back to normal and another nudge,(Terry patiently keeps our politics and o there under control despite we return to annoy) but it is totally clear that there was a serious history of showing off modelling, and the clientele in genereral were very happy with that being the case, very little snarky remarks not even from Troy :) are exceptionally rare,
that. Place was one of the friendliest places I have visited when I arrived I adored the atmosphere and loved people showing off their work so I could investigate further if they stirred my interest, which is exactly how I ended up posting here on my favourite thread in the whole forum, because I adore weathering, both threads wagons and locos from 2 gifted modellers make my day every time new work is displayed, both Toms thank you.
I am annoyed that the person who had the issue clearly did not want to hold their own hand up and pushed Tony out in centre stage, and does not have the guts to stand up for him either. I meanly suspect one person but won’t spread unsubstantiated rumours as that is lower even than the original act. do I feel sorry for Tony - yes, BUT I love that dxmn (apologies to children :( ) coffee shop and some one just caused it to be smashed wide open. Do I want it fixed yes, but am I willing to keep going there if the Likes of Willie and other very established posters are forced/pushed out, hxll

no at that point I personally will just continue visiting those threads of the friends I have made, because their work is too good to miss. annoying I may be, but I am loyal. Where that leaves me with say Bruette and others who I only chat to in the coffee shop causes me angst but I just cannot continue there if Willie and others are pushed out. I would choke on my breakfast.

Why do people have to spoil others fun,many of us do not follow every conversation and scroll past what we do not want to participate,why could they just not scroll past instead of throw a Doberman into the diner!
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JazA, the mysteries of life. I don’t feel Tony was/is or ever wants to be a bad guy, HE IS NOT. Bad position handled poorly by not knowing the history of the creator of Running Bears Coffee Shop.

Moderator, not a job for me. I once commented at a Youth Ice Hockey board meeting we needed a newsletter. 16 years later I resigned my board membership as both my kids had moved on, the daughter to college hockey, the son to his computers due to concussions suffered playing a game that the family really still loves…
 
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trailrider said:
First time posting in this subject. I have some spare HO scale steam locomotive parts, enough to assemble the engine and maybe a tender, but not enough to make an operating model (and with 12-13 other that do work, I don't need another one). What I have thought is to possibly create a locomotive that is headed for the scrapyard. Aside from rust on most of the structure, what would such a locomotive look like? I may make it so it could be hauled in a train without motor or mechanism. Might one such critter have the main rods removed, leaving just the side rods, or could it be moved with the main rods intact (so I don't have to actually remove them in case I wanted to canibalize the driving assembly for a later operating project?
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Trailrider- You have a fairly good idea, depending on your available parts.
Rather than making a movable model, why not make a flatcar load which could have ANY parts missing.
Years ago, I use to drive past a trucking firm that had an old steam driven shifter in their yard. I found out that it came from an electric utility steam plant and the huge boiler was filled with steam to run the small engine around their plant.
When I finally got a good digital camera, the engine had been scraped.
Lots of rust and dirt the last time I saw it.
TomO has made some good suggestions as I was typing.
Your idea and your parts, see what you can do with them.
 
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Let’s return to discussing weathering of Rolling Stock.

Yes, I know I started my rant about the diner but let’s let Bob along with Terry handle it the way they see best. I miss making my responses to whatever is happening daily in Running Bears Diner, but it is what it is.

I will be on Maui for awhile as I am not 100% sure when I am returning home. My Endocrinologist is here as a good friend of Terry’s and she can handle my video appointment on the 20th, in person. My GP appointment in person on the 19th I may change. If I change it I can stay to August but I am getting antsy. I do have 15 sulfur cars waiting for me, 4 Scaletrain tank cars, a slew (41) pickup trucks and clients holding on to projects. So I do have commitments and I am getting antsy, but hey I am retired. I’ll go home when I want. Terry, my sister and my doctor are staying.

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TLOC said:
Let’s return to discussing weathering of Rolling Stock.

Yes, I know I started my rant about the diner but let’s let Bob along with Terry handle it the way they see best. I miss making my responses to whatever is happening daily in Running Bears Diner, but it is what it is. I will be on Maui for awhile as I am not 100% sure when I am returning home. My Endocrinologist is here as a good friend of Terry’s and she can handle my video appointment on the 20th, in person. My GP appointment in person on the 19th I may change. If I change it I can stay to August but I am getting antsy. I do have 15 sulfur cars waiting for me, 4 Scaletrain tank cars, a slew (41) pickup trucks and clients holding on to projects. So I do have commitments and I am getting antsy, but hey I am retired. I’ll go home when I want. Terry, my sister and my doctor are staying.

some of my last projects (posted previously)
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As usual, amazing work, I really like the containers as well as the two tank cars.
 
Just if you have not seen it -- I posted a blurb in the coffee, but stopped a little, actually a lot, from saying how I really feel. For the record I left at an earlier time over TONY deleting and calling down
TROY over a leaning political comment.

Jaz avalley said:
Sherries had 2 dogs die in short time and was depressed. And needed a break,and none tried to stop him as he clearly needed time to cope, he’ll return when he can feel up for it, I think, but it look likes he will be in for a nasty shock.
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Still depressed over the lost of my two buddy's, but that is not the reason that I quit looking and posting on the forum.
Believe it or not, I could see something like this coming down the track.
Once before - I had asked BOB to remove me from being "staff", but I guess he didn't bother or see my message to him - so I have been a "non-moderator" (really didn't have many tools to work with)

I have always been of the mindset that if you don't want to see, or read, a particular post that all you have to do is skip to the next one.
I am against posts being deleted - even political - as long as they are not directed entirely towards another person.
I have enjoyed the banter here for going on 8 years I believe?

After my brush with cancer and aneurysms + other ailments, I do not get out very much and I felt like that I had made a few friends which I enjoyed conversing with and most of all seeing and hearing what others are/were doing.

I feel that TONY greatly overstepped his bounds! An apology is due along with a retraction.

Sherrel here (I was a tough kid)
And STOP Calling Me, Surely!
 
Smudge617 said:
As usual, amazing work, I really like the containers as well as the two tank cars.
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Thank you Chris. There was only 1 train car I have found on Maui. Took this as we were moving at about 65mph. It is near the entrance to I believe a SugarCane museum. I will do some investigating this week. It was about 50 minutes out from my brother and Terry wants a few day trips, so! What better then something with a train.

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Sirfoldalot said:
Just if you have not seen it -- I posted a blurb in the coffee, but stopped a little, actually a lot, from saying how I really feel. For the record I left at an earlier time over TONY deleting and calling down
TROY over a leaning political comment.


Still depressed over the lost of my two buddy's, but that is not the reason that I quit looking and posting on the forum.
Believe it or not, I could see something like this coming down the track.
Once before - I had asked BOB to remove me from being "staff", but I guess he didn't bother or see my message to him - so I have been a "non-moderator" (really didn't have many tools to work with)

I have always been of the mindset that if you don't want to see, or read, a particular post that all you have to do is skip to the next one.
I am against posts being deleted - even political - as long as they are not directed entirely towards another person.
I have enjoyed the banter here for going on 8 years I believe?

After my brush with cancer and aneurysms + other ailments, I do not get out very much and I felt like that I had made a few friends which I enjoyed conversing with and most of all seeing and hearing what others are/were doing.

I feel that TONY greatly overstepped his bounds! An apology is due along with a retraction.

Sherrel here (I was a tough kid)
And STOP Calling Me, Surely!
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Sherrel, you are a man I have greatly missed (as have others) and yet we have never met. That’s what made this entire forum and Running Bears Diner so great. It brought diverse folks together to not only share a love of trains, of not just models but the real guys too. If we happened to talk about health, credit cards or the demise of the American health care system Terry was there to step gently on some toes to warn us, don’t cross the Poly-tic line( credit to Troy for that). BUT NEVER PUBLICLY an individual or an implied person, it was a reminder to All. How many of us skirted that line on purpose? I was not on the forum when Jeffrey Running Bear was with us. The diner is named in his honor! His demise occurred before my arrival. But, he was a person I know I could have shared a diet Dr Pepper with. He showed looking back what has been called his Frankenstein works. By edict, that is no longer allowed, nor is my posting of weathered models.

I started my Continuous Weathering threads not to show off. But, after I posted some weathered models in the Diner I had requests for a step by step of MY process. A step by step with examples rightfully didn’t belong in the diner. No way that more than a year did I think the thread would still be going. But it started in the DINER.

Heck, if it wasn’t for the late Greg@MnRR I would not be selling my weathering projects or doing weathering commissions. He gave much encouragement to me and even purchased some pulp cars, of my what he called “artwork”. While I don’t encourage folks to sell I encourage them (along with others like CambriaArea51 (Tom), and Smudge617 (Chris) JazA ( the nicest Modelrailroading woman Online with great skills) and others hop in from time to time. We encourage others to just start and here are our tips and methods but to find your own way.

Where in the world can you go and get a JAZZ A and her brilliant run-on sentences? When Troy politely asked her to take a deep breathe and press occasionally the return key I think I spit out my diet Dr Pepper laughing so hard. As one of the few brave woman in model railroading, she never hesitated and chided him right back. A wonderful artist she has entertained us with her artwork (face sketches I love) and model railroading weathering skills. She 1st showed those in the diner.

It’s 1:47am as I write this and I said previously let’s get back to weathering. Well let that be damned, NO EDICTS IN MY CONTINUOUS WEATHERING THREADS. If an apology is given to Karl and Willie I will return to the diner. In the meantime, post ANYTHING YOU want to write here. If I go back to the diner we can discuss weathering only here, if there is no apology, it’s not a problem, YOU CAN visit my weathering and me on Facebook. My decision will come this week and I hate the idea that this may be it…

Sherrel, be well

As to a comment about Flo in the diner being laid off, nope saw her on a catamaran heading out to the crater to snorkel. She was enjoying a well deserved vacation. We may have to check how much we are tipping in the diner though …

TomO
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a picture from the highest point on the course of the Makena Golf and Beach club. Based on my compass this was 470’ above the shore and about 400’ above the 1st hole. 18 holes that give you a view of the Pacific Ocean in 3 directions and mountains in the 4th. The course is closed until I believe the 15th for aeration.
 
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I am starting a weathering project this week.
I will be examining the weather effects that have occurred over the last 7 years on my wood front porch, even with a stain coating.

Currently watching the weather on the local news to see when the line of thunder storms will be out of my area.
Rain will not slow down the pressure washing to clean the wood, but lightning is a different story.
Yesterday, a tall oak tree about 300 yards away on the hill across the street was hit and damaged. It convinced me to be careful when working with water and electricity.
I will make note of the real weathered effects on wood as I paint this 10' x 38' porch and steps. I can paint the covered portion of the porch as long as we do not have a blowing storm. Hope the experience will translate to weathering wood boxcars.
I wonder if I should use a number 2 brush to get next to the plastic vinyl siding?
 


PNKFLOYD said:
I am starting a weathering project this week.
I will be examining the weather effects that have occurred over the last 7 years on my wood front porch, even with a stain coating.

Currently watching the weather on the local news to see when the line of thunder storms will be out of my area.
Rain will not slow down the pressure washing to clean the wood, but lightning is a different story.
Yesterday, a tall oak tree about 300 yards away on the hill across the street was hit and damaged. It convinced me to be careful when working with water and electricity.
I will make note of the real weathered effects on wood as I paint this 10' x 38' porch and steps. I can paint the covered portion of the porch as long as we do not have a blowing storm. Hope the experience will translate to weathering wood boxcars.
I wonder if I should use a number 2 brush to get next to the plastic vinyl siding?
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Mikey, If you learn nothing from the full size weathering project, you will learn patience and possibly how some words fit in to conversations with yourself. I disliked the staining effects created on the wood at a house in North Central WIsconsin because it turns out I was not careful enough with the pressure washer. The pressure washer is a fun, great tool. Stain or paint on the siding is where those words might come in handy but actually are not helpful.

All kidding aside, like models it’s the prep that is important and don’t rush. Nice size porch
 
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