Real quick radius please

[Mixed Freight]

Where a 2.0% grade in HO is considered "appropriate" N Scale is more than capable of a 3.0% grade plus some as you have demonstrated. And yes, I know HO can negotiate greater grades than 2.0%

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Not finding any sensible logic in this statement.
Can you clarify?

 

[wombat457]

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Not finding any sensible logic in this statement.
Can you clarify?

Seems fairly self explanatory to me ... exactly what isn't "sensible logic"?

2.0% grade is considered the norm for HO where as 3.0% is acceptable in N Scale - makes perfect sense to me.

 

[JeffH]

The only reason I did that test was because a person on another forum is wanting to model a specific railroad that is in the mountains and has steep grades. Everyone was cautioning about grades, and how curves compound the problem, so I devised a test to prove if it could work or not.

BTW, I didn't do a video, but even at a 6% grade, that little 2-8-2 could do it! Even through the 9.75" radius curves. So I thought perhaps demonstrating how well this little steamer handled the curve with a grade was apropos.

 

[wombat457]

@JeffH agreed, people are very cautious when it comes to grades and they tend to err on the side of the "norm" or what is "historically acceptable". I think most people under estimate what an engine (in any scale) is potentially capable of. I have to confess, I don't like going over 3.0% grade and am even more wary when it somes to curves.

 

[Mixed Freight]

Seems fairly self explanatory to me ... exactly what isn't "sensible logic"?

2.0% grade is considered the norm for HO where as 3.0% is acceptable in N Scale - makes perfect sense to me.

"Normal" and "acceptable" have two different meanings. And could easily be interchanged in your statement (i.e., 'acceptable' for HO, and 'normal' for N-scale). In which case, your statements still wouldn't make any sense.
At least not to me.

 

[buicfrank]

This is just something I wanted to throw together. Right now my space is only 2x4 feet. Frank

 

[wombat457]

This is just something I wanted to throw together. Right now my space is only 2x4 feet. Frank

It is a little small BUT something to start with to get used to laying roadbed, track, etc - a good learning project

 

[migalyto]

You could look at Z scale.

 

[wombat457]

You could look at Z scale.

There's an idea!

 

[Rico]

You could look at Z scale.

You could, but you’d need pretty thick lenses!

 

[wombat457]

You could, but you’d need pretty thick lenses!

Nah - just a sense of humour

 

[JeffH]

And patience

 

[migalyto]

But it might be a better option for the OP that only has a 2X4 area to work with!

 

[wombat457]

And patience

That too

 

[wombat457]

But it might be a better option for the OP that only has a 2X4 area to work with!

As a first layout - Z Scale might be a bit tough to come to terms with. N will be hard enough but much more doable. On the other hand, start hard and anything else will be a walk in the park

 

[migalyto]

Nah - just a sense of humour

Thats the truth for all scales and the hobby in general!

 

[migalyto]

As a first layout - Z Scale might be a bit tough to come to terms with. N will be hard enough but much more doable. On the other hand, start hard and anything else will be a walk in the park

True.

 

[wombat457]

So @buicfank have we scared you off yet?

Hope not, it really isn't as bad as we might make it seem - we have to do that to make us feel good about what we do

 

[Smudge617]

After reading this, I would think poor buggers running for the hills.

 

[buicfrank]

back hurts, too many shakes, already have thick lenses, not an artistic wonder, face hurts, hands hurts, what hair I have left hurts, but I have a 2x4 board, this should be exciting. I have to vote no for z scale.