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Kusojiji said:
Just bought this little Kyoto sight seeing train and have had to work on it already.
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She ran great for two days but started stalling badly for the last two. I couldn't figure out how to separate the drawbar without total destruction, so I broke out the instruction sheet to see if they sold the drawbar separately, just in case. Well, didn't find what I needed but saw something much more valuable.
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The itty-bitty joint thing that keeps splitting after 20+ years! I've been searching for this for a while and need a lot of them to fix my old stuff, especially the RDC Budds that I had recently remotored. I am going to be buying a lot of these since I expect them to become unobtainium again.

Let me know if any of you need this thing. I'm going to be ordering tomorrow.
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Did you buy it new? Or used. If new is contact KATO about fixing it.
 
KriegslokBR52 said:
That was horrible to watch and the pilots had no chance. Everyone says how similar that event is to flight 191 of DC10 back in 1979 at Chicago O'Hare.
From what i'm reading the controllers are not getting paid and there's a shortage of controllers and i'm sure cut down on maintenance. That government made plandemic sure did a lot of damage to society and looks like the fallout is just starting.
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Now we are finding out that the plane made it to 175' and an engine fell off. That plane can fly on one engine, so maybe something else happened too. ATC's in the tower ( ground control ) usually can determine some sort of problem just watching. Not this time I guess.

L8r
 
So I've been working on a new diorama and was deep into the Queen City Coal model. I was adding the concrete footings and came up 4 short. A call this morning to Bar Mills and they said they would print and mail them out today.

I also asked about several features in the photos that were not in the current instructions or parts. They said that they deleted several things after building the prototype model due to frustration/complexity of assembly. When the manufacturer says it was more effort (breaking the parts several times before success) than it was worth I guess I can live without them or manufacture them myself.

Great customer service. They answer the phone and solve the issue.
 


ctclibby said:
Now we are finding out that the plane made it to 175' and an engine fell off. That plane can fly on one engine, so maybe something else happened too. ATC's in the tower ( ground control ) usually can determine some sort of problem just watching. Not this time I guess.

L8r
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Commentary on YT from pilots is that the left engine had an uncontrollable fire or self destructed and fire spread to wing tanks. Engine fell off from weakened mountings/wings from fire or from self destruction. This caused it to roll over knife edge as the right wing is still go full tilt. Fire and destruction also caused left wing to possibly lose lift. And hydraulics loss from fire and/or engine self destructing. So loss of control.

The nose got to 175 ft. Where the reporting sensor is. The back probably didn’t.

Terrible event. We’ll have to see what they piece back together.
 
KriegslokBR52 said:
That was horrible to watch and the pilots had no chance. Everyone says how similar that event is to flight 191 of DC10 back in 1979 at Chicago O'Hare.
From what i'm reading the controllers are not getting paid and there's a shortage of controllers and i'm sure cut down on maintenance. That government made plandemic sure did a lot of damage to society and looks like the fallout is just starting.
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As far as I know, maintenance is not performed by the Government on UPS aircraft. I don't think the shutdown has anything to do with the crash. Someone screwed up in maintenance. This aircraft just had a C Check last year. That's nearly a total tear down of the aircraft and inspection. I mean right down to the spars, ribs, and stringers to the framework. Everything is inspected, tested, and replaced if it doesn't perform to spec. It is one step under a D Check that is even more intensive than a C Check.

I certainly hope it was not due to maintenance cheating on the R&R of the engines. Meaning, the method they used to support the engine from the pylon while being removed.
 
RhB Michael said:
As far as I know, maintenance is not performed by the Government on UPS aircraft. I don't think the shutdown has anything to do with the crash. Someone screwed up in maintenance. This aircraft just had a C Check last year. That's nearly a total tear down of the aircraft and inspection. I mean right down to the spars, ribs, and stringers to the framework. Everything is inspected, tested, and replaced if it doesn't perform to spec. It is one step under a D Check that is even more intensive than a C Check.

I certainly hope it was not due to maintenance cheating on the R&R of the engines. Meaning, the method they used to support the engine from the pylon while being removed.
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Yes i know the government doesn't pay maintenance workers to do maintenance on aircraft, i probably should have worded my sentence differently. But pretty much all shortage of qualified workers, not just in air transport, are do to restrictions placed during that time. In my company we have shortage of skilled drivers, as is across the board in trucking industry. One just has to look at recent accidents where drivers just made a U-turn on limited access highway, leading to death of several people in cars. This is more do to recent rules for commercial drivers actually. But the air industry is facing shortages directly related to government doings in the past few years.
 
chadbag said:
Commentary on YT from pilots is that the left engine had an uncontrollable fire or self destructed and fire spread to wing tanks. Engine fell off from weakened mountings/wings from fire or from self destruction. This caused it to roll over knife edge as the right wing is still go full tilt. Fire and destruction also caused left wing to possibly lose lift. And hydraulics loss from fire and/or engine self destructing. So loss of control.

The nose got to 175 ft. Where the reporting sensor is. The back probably didn’t.

Terrible event. We’ll have to see what they piece back together.
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It looks like they barely got off the ground on the film.
 
Altitude was recorded at 174' AGL. It's hard to believe it even achieved that watching all of the video. It came across the warehouse roof closest to the runway threshold with either the tail or the landing gear ripping up some of the roof, but continued to climb after the strike before descending. It was still flying wings level at this point after engine separation.
 
RhB Michael said:
Altitude was recorded at 174' AGL. It's hard to believe it even achieved that watching all of the video. It came across the warehouse roof closest to the runway threshold with either the tail or the landing gear ripping up some of the roof, but continued to climb after the strike before descending. It was still flying wings level at this point after engine separation.
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Professional pilots think the gashes on the roof were the left wing. It had already rolled by that point. This is per some YT vids by professional pilots. I have not yet seen the Mentour live discussion as it was over an hour.

Also mentioned was that the nose got to 174’. Not necessarily the whole plane. The sensors are in the front area.
 


Their theory of a wing strike is supported by this photo:

I think it is still possible the aircraft yawed enough to put that impact point under the left main before they were able to correct to the right before losing total control. The debris field doesn't follow their red line exactly in this photo.

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RhB Michael said:
Their theory of a wing strike is supported by this photo:

I think it is still possible the aircraft yawed enough to put that impact point under the left main before they were able to correct to the right before losing total control. The debris field doesn't follow their red line exactly in this photo.

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That rip in the warehouse could be the main landing gear hitting it before it broke.
 
santafewillie said:
Good Morning All. Clear 56°, into the 80's again today. No rain in the 10 day forecast.

Once again, PT wore me out yesterday. So far we haven't done anything except one routine that I can't do at home, so after the two sessions scheduled for next week, I will stop. At least at home, I can do them at my leisure instead of cramming them all into one hour. It might have been easier if I hadn't split wood in the morning before lunch. I did lots of other minor tasks around the yard as well.
My wife survived her facial surgery yesterday, but says that if she had to do it over, she would have opted for the radiation instead of the surgery. She expects a permanent scar now. Stitches come out next week.

Today as usual, is the weekly grocery trek. Wife won't go because of the huge bandage on her forehead. Not sure if I have any other stops to make, none on my immediate list.

Out in the train shed yesterday, I completed the rockwork on the side and back of the Hydrocal structure.
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I don't really like that back door. I don't know whether or not there should have been a Grandt Line door included in the kit for this spot or not. I don't have a correctly sized one in my details cabinet, so I have to ponder it a little.
Now the last major paint location is the rockwork on the front. I am going to use some lighter colors here to differentiate it from the other side.
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As I posted yesterday, I received another engine shipment from ScaleTrains. I wasn't originally planning on purchasing these four GP30's, but they have been on their closeout shelf for about a month now. That meant immediate shipment instead of a pre-order. These are actually GP30U's with the nose mounted headlight. ATSF had 85 of this model.View attachment 246990
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It took a few minutes to reacquaint myself with the steps to remove them from their packaging, even though I just received 6 more about 2 months ago. I only had time to run them all about 45' yesterday, after I examined each for any defects. None found. Matter of fact, I have only found one loco with a broken horn on all of the 25 or so ScaleTrains engines that I have purchased since they entered the business. They sent me a new one immediately after contacting them.

Patrick - You and your wife are going to have to be careful not to get your CPAP hoses tangled up! It will help with the sleep apnea and snoring, but as to whether you sleep better overall is open to debate. Each person has their own criteria.
Marlin (David) - I really like Bar Mills kits and I have many on my layout. I find that the first page or so of the instructions are generally well written, but then they trail off by the end. But after a few kits, you will know what the shortcomings usually are. But, as Karl posted, that's how you get the experience.

The late Eagles singer/guitarist Glenn Frey was born on this day in 1948. 60's teen idol Sally Field is 79 today.
Everyone have a fine Thursday.
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Would the material take to putting a small hole in the door to put a head of a pin to make a simple door knob?
 
santafewillie said:
Good Morning All. Clear 56°, into the 80's again today. No rain in the 10 day forecast.


My wife survived her facial surgery yesterday, but says that if she had to do it over, she would have opted for the radiation instead of the surgery. She expects a permanent scar now. Stitches come out next week.
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I've had 3 squamous cell carcinomas. 2 were cut out. One on top of my head and one on the side of my face. If the surgeon/dermatologist did it right there should be very little sign of a scar after about 6 weeks.

I had the radiation done on one. Eight 3-minute sessions. It was on the side of my nose about a 1/2" from the corner of my eye. There was not enough "real estate" to cut that one out. Lots of possible side effects, but I was lucky and there were none.

I'm glad it went well for your wife.
 
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RhB Michael said:
Their theory of a wing strike is supported by this photo:

I think it is still possible the aircraft yawed enough to put that impact point under the left main before they were able to correct to the right before losing total control. The debris field doesn't follow their red line exactly in this photo.

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Well, the string of cars just below the A in Airport in RhB's post caught my eye.
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This is a branch from the CSX yard going east. 6 bunches of 6 cars. Storage? There is a 'run by' South of those cars....
L8r
 
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