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all these practices and whatnot.
The insurance will be expensive, but the reduced running on my part will be priceless.
L8r
I also have a recipe for a peach desert in the same category. Maybe whip something like that up and see what she thinks.
I wish peaches grew at our latitude.
Our daughter is working and could technically pay the $200/month. I'm having her pay some of it. But I want her to save the money for her future needs (college etc) as we aren't in a position to help much there now. If she were a spender and not a saver she'd be paying all of it, but she saves almost all of her money. She spends very little compared to how much she makes (at least in terms of summer). During school she is not working as much and probably only makes $200 a month at most. Having her be able to drive herself to school, swim practices, etc is a huge time saver for me and it gives her driving experience and experience making good decisions. As soon as the decisions start to not be good we'll re-evaluate.
We did not (and would not) buy the kids a car. We "inherited" my dad's 2007 Honda Fit when he stopped driving. For the princely sum of $1. The only stipulation was that if didn't need it any longer we would sell it back for $1 so other grandkids could use it. But my son drove it for a few years before he left to go be a missionary in Japan and now my daughter is using it. When my son returns he understands he'll probably need to buy his own car. He has a good savings even after paying for his missionary service, mostly, because of his good work habits and 2+ years at UPS, and because he was responsible, we let him stay with us on our dime for board and room. He did contribute a good amount to his insurance, based on his job and ability to pay, but save a ton of money. Which he'll need when he gets back.
Not for nothing, but whether one considers graffiti an expression of creativity, or a further sign of the decline of our society, the reality is that Model Railroading reflects the industry in a chosen era. My 1960s based layout reflects industrial grunge common back then. A modern era modeler's layout would reflect the contemporary reality that railroads operate in. Graffiti has been common since the early to mid 1990s. (Some of what I used to see was quite good,artistically).
Set expectations and make sure you don't let up on them. What is and what is not acceptable.
So true! When the daughter turned 16 the morning of 11/4, she passed her driver license test. Then I dropped her off at school. That afternoon she had hockey practice with her team. When she finished practicing Terry and I were there in a driving snow storm. We gave her mom’s car to her. 1st though we quickly discussed the rules and that was not only would she drive herself to school and hockey practices she would also do that for her younger brother. One of the best stress relievers I had ever done. Not to have to rush from a client sales call wherever I was to pick the kids up from hockey and soccer was so wonderful. That was 1997! 2 weeks later her 1995 Ford Taurus was totaled when rear ended at a stop sign. She was fine but her brother in the back seat not so much. She then got my 1996 Taurus, Terry had a 1998 Taurus and I got that. Terry then got the new to us Taurus. We rotated 3 then 4 cars for the next 10 years as every1 to 2 years or 100,000 miles I got a new ( usually with 10-12,000 miles) from the local Ford agency’s rental fleet. Company car for me. The year before the daughter got married we asked her what car she wanted. Her answer was anything but a Ford Taurus!
Just caught the last of 6 that flew overhead. Boy the ground shook! Military but too far away for me to ID
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chadbag
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Especially that second one. Our rate doubled when my daughter got her license last year. I had her wait until she was 17 and past the 15-16 age where they redo the 2-3 year old “learning consequences” phase.
santafewillie
Same Ol' Buzzard
OK, I understand now. Shame on me for not remembering you have posted your vision issues before.
migalyto
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I think the drivers license is what I'm looking forward to the most. It will be nice to hand off the responsibility of getting to school,
all these practices and whatnot.
The insurance will be expensive, but the reduced running on my part will be priceless.
ctclibby
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Mike et-al: Most of the kids that I knew could not get a DL until they could pay for their own insurance. Mom bought my first car which was not brand new; more of a land boat. It was up to me for the insurance.I think the drivers license is what I'm looking forward to the most. It will be nice to hand off the responsibility of getting to school,
all these practices and whatnot.
The insurance will be expensive, but the reduced running on my part will be priceless.
L8r
logandsawman
Northern Pacific history enthusiast
My wife makes a peach-blueberry cobbler that is simply delicious. We have a hard time saving some for the next day.
I also have a recipe for a peach desert in the same category. Maybe whip something like that up and see what she thinks.
I wish peaches grew at our latitude.
logandsawman
Northern Pacific history enthusiast
Yes, we had to pay for our own insurance while in high school. I drove our 1972 chevy station wagon with bald tires. In 1976, I purchased my first car, using the money I made at Burger Chef, a 1968 vw square back (a two door station wagon). It was $450. I think the insurance was about 400 every 6 months.
NorthBrit
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Why save it. You know it tastes different the next day.
logandsawman
Northern Pacific history enthusiast
Try to save some so we don't get too fat, spreading the calories out a bitWhy save it. You know it tastes different the next day.
troyphoto
Snarky Old Fart (in training)
Checking out the progress on the Zombies at N-Scale Dystopia channel. Denny over there had an interesting vid that some of you may find interesting.
Seems he's using AI, Chat-GPT in particular, to fill in gaps in his knowledge about what rolling stock is appropriate for the yard on his mostly passenger car layout.
Seems he's using AI, Chat-GPT in particular, to fill in gaps in his knowledge about what rolling stock is appropriate for the yard on his mostly passenger car layout.
kbkchooch
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Mantua ?
chadbag
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When I was a kid I would have been expected to pay insurance, which is one reason I didn't get my license until after HS graduation. It made no sense to work minimum wage at $3.25/hr part time just to pay insurance to be able to get to the job. I had friends who could drive to get rides home from school or my folks would come get me.
Our daughter is working and could technically pay the $200/month. I'm having her pay some of it. But I want her to save the money for her future needs (college etc) as we aren't in a position to help much there now. If she were a spender and not a saver she'd be paying all of it, but she saves almost all of her money. She spends very little compared to how much she makes (at least in terms of summer). During school she is not working as much and probably only makes $200 a month at most. Having her be able to drive herself to school, swim practices, etc is a huge time saver for me and it gives her driving experience and experience making good decisions. As soon as the decisions start to not be good we'll re-evaluate.
We did not (and would not) buy the kids a car. We "inherited" my dad's 2007 Honda Fit when he stopped driving. For the princely sum of $1. The only stipulation was that if didn't need it any longer we would sell it back for $1 so other grandkids could use it. But my son drove it for a few years before he left to go be a missionary in Japan and now my daughter is using it. When my son returns he understands he'll probably need to buy his own car. He has a good savings even after paying for his missionary service, mostly, because of his good work habits and 2+ years at UPS, and because he was responsible, we let him stay with us on our dime for board and room. He did contribute a good amount to his insurance, based on his job and ability to pay, but save a ton of money. Which he'll need when he gets back.
chadbag
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That would have been a ton back then.
Boris
Beach Bum
Not for nothing, but whether one considers graffiti an expression of creativity, or a further sign of the decline of our society, the reality is that Model Railroading reflects the industry in a chosen era. My 1960s based layout reflects industrial grunge common back then. A modern era modeler's layout would reflect the contemporary reality that railroads operate in. Graffiti has been common since the early to mid 1990s. (Some of what I used to see was quite good,artistically).
DeaconKC
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Afternoon folks, fun afternoon here, g'niece Emma and her boyfriend are over practicing a song with my wife for Sunday Church and it sounds really good. Boyfriend is pretty good on his acoustic guitar. So I'm just sitting here enjoying the music. My Missus gave me a haircut this morning, she started doing that during Covid and does a very nice job.
Having grown up on the South side of Chicago, I really detest graffiti, yeah, I know it's reality but I still detest gangbangers.
I had to start paying the difference when I got my first car and then once I was 18, had to pay my own.
91 here right now supposed to hit 93 with storms this evening.
Having grown up on the South side of Chicago, I really detest graffiti, yeah, I know it's reality but I still detest gangbangers.
I had to start paying the difference when I got my first car and then once I was 18, had to pay my own.
91 here right now supposed to hit 93 with storms this evening.
chadbag
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This is true. But ether will also be a prolonged sense of worry and anxiousness as well. It takes a long while for a father to become comfortable with his kids on the road by themselves... With all the other crazies out there.The insurance will be expensive, but the reduced running on my part will be priceless.
Set expectations and make sure you don't let up on them. What is and what is not acceptable.
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Patrick
What, me worry?
Afternoon all,
Local kids started back to school today. Waiting to pick up the now sophomore grandson. His middle school sister stayed home as only the 6th graders reported at the middle school today. The other 2 granddaughters start next week.
PT went well. I hit 123°, only 7° more to match the other side.
Local kids started back to school today. Waiting to pick up the now sophomore grandson. His middle school sister stayed home as only the 6th graders reported at the middle school today. The other 2 granddaughters start next week.
PT went well. I hit 123°, only 7° more to match the other side.
TLOC
Well-Known Member
I think the drivers license is what I'm looking forward to the most. It will be nice to hand off the responsibility of getting to school,
all these practices and whatnot.
The insurance will be expensive, but the reduced running on my part will be priceless.
So true! When the daughter turned 16 the morning of 11/4, she passed her driver license test. Then I dropped her off at school. That afternoon she had hockey practice with her team. When she finished practicing Terry and I were there in a driving snow storm. We gave her mom’s car to her. 1st though we quickly discussed the rules and that was not only would she drive herself to school and hockey practices she would also do that for her younger brother. One of the best stress relievers I had ever done. Not to have to rush from a client sales call wherever I was to pick the kids up from hockey and soccer was so wonderful. That was 1997! 2 weeks later her 1995 Ford Taurus was totaled when rear ended at a stop sign. She was fine but her brother in the back seat not so much. She then got my 1996 Taurus, Terry had a 1998 Taurus and I got that. Terry then got the new to us Taurus. We rotated 3 then 4 cars for the next 10 years as every1 to 2 years or 100,000 miles I got a new ( usually with 10-12,000 miles) from the local Ford agency’s rental fleet. Company car for me. The year before the daughter got married we asked her what car she wanted. Her answer was anything but a Ford Taurus!
Just caught the last of 6 that flew overhead. Boy the ground shook! Military but too far away for me to ID
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