Lionel What was I thinking?

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Nope, I am all steam.
PRR E6 Atlantic
That would fit your layout, but I don't think any Legacy locomotive will run on a LionChief DC power supply. I would call Lionel and ask for clarification. 586-949-4100 or 800-454-6635

However, LionChief locomotives can run on AC power. I recommend a PH180 or GW180 AC Transformer. Two Legacy + up to two LionChief locomotives should be a comfortable load on a 180-Watt transformer.

If you want to have way more than enough power you can go with the ZW-L 620-Watt transformer.

Because it is the coolest of them all! HO is fantastic, but too small for me. N is even smaller, forget about it!

And if you think Lionel O is complicated, look into DCC that is a total chaotic mess to me.
Yeah, my eye site is failing so smaller scales won't cut it and G scale to big and costly. Once I'm 100% on the plan I will call them and see what they can recommend.
That is a versatile plan.

I would suggest a siding or two in the center, but what you have is great as is. Don't be surprised if you change your plan. I lost count long ago of how many times I changed my track plans.

When I had more free time i used to enjoy devolving plans in Any Rail. Most never saw the light of day but I had fun dreaming.
I'm already having second thoughts on it, I'd like to get a yard in there some how. I may look at it tonight, but then again I have another engine coming today. A lionchief PRR 2-6-2 Prairie. I can't wait.
 
so smaller scales won't cut it and G scale to big and costly.
FYI Technically it is G-gauge. As far as I know there is no G-scale.

Once I'm 100% on the plan I will call them and see what they can recommend.

I'm already having second thoughts on it, I'd like to get a yard in there some how. I may look at it tonight, but then again I have another engine coming today. A lionchief PRR 2-6-2 Prairie. I can't wait.
As for yesterday's plan, I was going to say, shouldn't the present drop off be on the outside of the loops and the present pick up be inside with the tree? Or am I misunderstanding the reference.

The one you posted Monday wasn't bad.
 


FYI Technically it is G-gauge. As far as I know there is no G-scale.


As for yesterday's plan, I was going to say, shouldn't the present drop off be on the outside of the loops and the present pick up be inside with the tree? Or am I misunderstanding the reference.

The one you posted Monday wasn't bad.
Hello,

What plan was you talking about if you don't mind me asking?

Thanks

Steve
 

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Technically speaking, almost everyone makes G gauge, not true G scale, and here's why:

Gauge = the physical distance between the rails; in this case 45mm, which is consistent across all G trains

Scale = the proportion of the model to the real prototype and this is where G gets messy

Who makes what and at what scale:
ManufacturerScaleNotes
LGB (Germany)1:22.5Created the modern G market in 1968; benchmark brand
Bachmann1:20.3Big Hauler series; popular narrow gauge - Bachmann Spectrum — 1:20.3 Narrow Gauge - Fn3. (see more below)
Aristocraft1:29Common American standard gauge
USA Trains1:29Common American standard gauge
Piko G1:22.5German manufacturer, good value
AccucraftVariesHigh-end live steam
Lionel's G gauge trains are 1:24 scale - not 1:22.5 true G, not 1:29, not 1:32. They carved out their own ratio, which is very on-brand for Lionel historically.

Marklin Gauge 1 - The legendary German manufacturer has made Gauge 1 trains at 1:32 since the early 1900s, predating G scale entirely. Their Gauge 1 line is: Extremely high end; brass construction, museum quality detail. Priced accordingly - serious collector territory

MTH Electric Trains - RailKing One Gauge. The main American producer at 1:32 on 45mm G gauge track.

1:32 on 45mm track the math works out to represent standard gauge prototype (1,435mm) - which is actually the most prototypically correct of all the G gauge offerings for modeling American full size railroads.

The Fn3 designation tells you everything - F scale, narrow gauge, modeling 3-foot prototype track. The 45mm G gauge rail represents those famous 3-foot narrow gauge lines of the American West perfectly at 1:20.3.

The official G scale standard and its origins:
1:22.5 - That is the one true defined G scale, established by LGB (Ernst Paul Lehmann Patentwerk) when they invented the format in 1968. Everything flows from them.

A few clean facts around it:
The "G" stands for Gro"ss" - German for large or big
At 1:22.5, the 45mm rail spacing accurately represents meter gauge (1,000mm) prototype track; the narrow mountain railways of Switzerland and Europe that LGB was modeling

The NMRA officially recognizes 1:22.5 as the G scale standard. That's G scale; one ratio, one origin, one inventor. Everything else - 1:29, 1:20.3, 1:24 & 1:32, are manufacturers who came along later (with the exception of Marklin), used the same convenient 45mm track, and attached themselves to the G label for marketing purposes even though their ratios don't match. Strictly speaking they are G gauge trains running at non-G scales.

The irony is that LGB itself, the creator and true keeper of G scale is modeling narrow gauge European prototypes at 1:22.5. So even the authentic standard bearer is narrow gauge! Which is part of why the whole "G scale" label became so loose and commercially convenient for everyone else to borrow.

Because manufacturers can't agree on a single ratio, the term G scale is technically a misnomer. Depending on who built it, a G model could be anywhere from 1:20.3 to 1:32 - all running on the exact same 45mm track. That's why serious hobbyists call it G gauge, not G scale. @Iron Horseman is one of the most serious and knowledgeable hobbist you will ever meet.
 
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Technically speaking, almost everyone makes G gauge, not true G scale, and here's why:
Gauge = the physical distance between the rails; in this case 45mm, which is consistent across all G trains
Scale = the proportion of the model to the real prototype and this is where G gets messy

Because manufacturers can't agree on a single ratio, the term G scale is technically a misnomer. Depending on who built it, a G model could be anywhere from 1:20.3 to 1:32 - all running on the exact same 45mm track. That's why serious hobbyists call it G gauge, not G scale. @Iron Horseman is one of the most serious and knowledgeable hobbist you will ever meet.

Great explanation, Louis! I just wanted to add for the benefit of other folks out there, virtually this same explanation holds true for 3-rail O-gauge too, where "O-scale" is more of a suggestion rather than an strict mandate.
 
I mean if you really want a yard. Of course, no industries for that yard to serve but there is only so much space.
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Dude get real. I live in an apartment that is small. I have a kitchen, bathroom, small bedroom and a small living room. There is no way I can do a layout on a table. I have to make do using the living room floor, so technically i could give a rats butt about industry. All I want to do is run what little bit I can afford on a small living room floor and try to enjoy what life I have left at 60.
 
@PRROgaugeR My first (past) layout was tracks and trains and I loved it! Use what you have and enjoy your trains. The rest is like dessert, it's nice if you have it, but the meat and potatoes are what really matters.

Other than a permanent Christmas layout, on the floor with limited space I don't even have a layout anymore. I hope to, but that is another story if you are interested you can read about my (future) layout - The BGR (Bruette's Goofy Railroad)

This thread is all you brother. I'm having fun following along with you. So please keep us posted on any new arrivals and the latest developments.

There is no right or wrong way, just have fun with your trains!
 
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@PRROgaugeR My first (past) layout was tracks and trains and I loved it! Use what you have and enjoy your trains. The rest is like dessert, it's nice if you have it, but the meat and potatoes are what really matters.

Other than a permanent Christmas layout, on the floor with limited space I don't even have a layout anymore. I hope to, but that is another story if you are interested you can read about my (future) layout - The BGR (Bruette's Goofy Railroad)

This thread is all you brother. I'm having fun following along with you. So please keep us posted on any new arrivals and the latest developments.

There is no right or wrong way, just have fun with your trains!
Thanks! My dreams of actually having a board layout is dwindling, especially at 60. I do have my plan finalized and I have about 95% of the track, still need a turnout or two and some miscellaneous track sections. What I have on the floor now typical oval with 3 turnouts.. Oh... I didn't know that they worked right out of the box on track power! That was awesome. I just got the cables everywhere. I did break down and bought a universal remote and I did my first double header of two 0-8-0's worked out pretty good. I was hope to get both of them on one number but it didn't work so I had to use 1 and 3, 2 was already taken.

I had signal trouble with the single signal bridge. I tried everything even posted on facebook, nothing worked. I decided to email Lionel. Turns out there was a flaw in the design of the signals. Glad I emailed them, I would still be wondering what I was doing wrong. They sent a prepaid label and they are now on their way to Lionel for replacement or they will try to fix them.

Actually starting to slowly enjoy this. Only pain is, everytime I want to go out the front door, I have to remove a good size of track. I think I'm going to buy those clips they make for the fastrack, there's a few track sections that just don't snap in.

Here's the final plan. Yes, with no industry. :rolleyes:🤣
 

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Dude get real. I live in an apartment that is small. I have a kitchen, bathroom, small bedroom and a small living room. There is no way I can do a layout on a table. I have to make do using the living room floor, so technically i could give a rats butt about industry. All I want to do is run what little bit I can afford on a small living room floor and try to enjoy what life I have left at 60.
You didn't specify you just wanted "to run a little bit", and you did say I would like to fit a yard in there. Usually a yard goes with industries.....
 




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