Styrene Helix Design

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Rico

BN Modeller
Okay I'm sure this topic has been done to death, but I may have a new question.
I'm looking at building a helix with styrene, for the following reasons:
1 I can get it cheaper than plywood thru my business
2 It's thin and can be easily laminated together for strength
3 I can secure the track to it to really hold the curve
4 I've never heard of anyone doing this so just I gotta try it.

The problem arises when you try to cut it into 1/4 curve sections.
We tried a CNC machine but that just gums up the cutting bit and melts the material. We then tried a laser... you can guess what happened. A jigsaw with a fine blade shatters the edges and eventually gums up. There is a fellow in the city who may be able to cut it with a water torch, but before I get that far I have another idea.
I'm thinking I can get it cut into 5 or 6 inch wide strips, then make angle cuts to form a series of rhomboids and join these together to make a "rough circle".
I've made a mock up with cardboard that seems to work, just can't get the angles right.

So, after my somewhat long winded description that I hope tells the right tale, here's the question: Has anyone done a helix this way? (out of any material) Anyone have a pattern or specs?
I love working with Styrene using the old "scribe and snap" method, just can't see cutting all those curves with a hobby knife!
I'll see if this pic loads up of what I'm attempting.
I should probably mention I'm looking for a 29" and 26" radius to fit into the equation?
Now where's my coffee.......
 
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The styrene may be cheaper for you, but how much time will you spend trying to get it to work? Plywood would seem to me to be a whole lot quicker. You don't need finish grade plywood, rough stuff should do.
 
Rico, the rhomboid idea sounds good to me. However, I'd suggest cementing a few layers, maybe 1/32" thick, then using one of those rolling craft knives to round them off, then sandwiching the layers togeather again, overlapping the joints.

I think the craft knife (maybe fabric knife if you're not understanding what I'm talking about), should cut cleanly through styrene.
 


Rico,
I think what you're doing is an interesting design challenge but I've got to agree with Bob on this one. Plywood is well known in terms of how to cut it smoothly, will go a lot quicker, and has known strength when used for a helix. Not only is stryrene more difficult to work with, I'd have to be convinced that is really has the strength that you think it does in a helix. I see an awful lot of laminating to get tothe same strength factor as 1/4" plywood.
 
Here's a sketch based on your measurements. I tried to keep the length of the outside chord at around 6 inches. 8 of these pieces will yield a 90° curve.

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Helix

Will this photo help any?

helix_01.jpg


NYC_George
 
There'a a company that has a web site that makes a plastic helix. I don't have the URL for it, but, maybe you can look it up on a search engine. It seems like it was quite expensive, but you might find some info & copy it.

larry
 
Thanx for the input guys!
Well Bob & Jim, I may go with plywood yet, we'll see.
Looks like George is already on to the rhomboid thing?
I'll try Ryan's pattern on some plastic, then trim it with Josh's knife idea.
I'll also check into the plastic cutting tools Joe, if I stay on that track!
That easy helix would obviously be the best thing since dynamic brakes Larry, but the two foot climb would be costly by the time I get it here.
I'll keep you posted on how it goes!
Rico
 


styrene helix

Rico,

This is probably too late, but, you might want check the December 2004 issue of Model Railroad Craftsman in regards to helix design.

CRIPBL2
 




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