Layout Pics from another Forum - Loss of an artist.

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amddrafting

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Thought I would share this...

A guy in a car forum that I frequent recently posted pics of his grandfather's train layouts. His grandfather had recently passed away and they are cleaning out the house and he took some pictures of the layouts before they figure out what to do with them.

I asked if he might have been a member on this site but he said his grandfather probably checked his email twice a year and had a hard time figuring that out so he doubted he would be on a train forum.

He lived in PA. Maybe some of you PA guys might have known him.

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N Guage: Replica Borough of Hyde Park, PA where he lived
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I am sure there are many older and highly accomplished modelers, as this gentleman surely was, whose layouts never get attention in magazines or open houses. The man took his time and enjoyed making things himself, and he obviously had a vision. I just hope he departed this life happy and fulfilled. He ought to have been proud. :)

-Crandell
 


I would be proud to call either of these layouts my own. It sometimes seems a shame that our the standards have advanced to point where layouts like these will get no attention. In a way, this is what a Model railroad should look like. Just my two cents.

I hope this guy has a good spot to model for all time. RIP.
 
Aaron, you didn't happen to catch the guys name did you? Just wondering. I know of an elderly gentleman who is a MMR from PA. He has relatives near where I live. The gentleman was planning on being in this area last month, and was to visit my model Railroad during his visit. I haven't heard a thing from the family, and want to make sure it is not........

Well, you get my drift.

Very, very nice work BTW!
 
Interesting to see pictures from "just another guy's" layout. He sure looks like he loved trains. You've just got to love the C-47 against the painted sky with the cotton clouds. RIP.
 
I would be proud to call either of these layouts my own. It sometimes seems a shame that our the standards have advanced to point where layouts like these will get no attention. In a way, this is what a Model railroad should look like. Just my two cents.

I hope this guy has a good spot to model for all time. RIP.

Gary,I don't know how set the so called "standards" :confused: but,I suspect that's more a forum and magazine thing then what you will find in most basements or spare bedrooms.In fact I highly suspect you see more layouts like this gentleman had then those "supped up" layouts you see in magazines.

A simple tour of the layouts on YouTube will bare witness to that.:D
 
Wow, thats very nice. If my layout ever looks half as good ill be proud. I like how he ran double stacks next to steamers and the N scale replica of his hometown. It shows hes a down to earth guy who runs what he pleases, not what necessarily is considered right. Thats a pretty good example of "its your layout, do as you please and enjoy the hobby"

amddrafting- Do you think you could convince the other member to create an account here to show us some more? Id be curious to see what they have planned for such a cool layout too, hopefully a family member appreciates trains and keeps it running.
 


Gary,I don't know how set the so called "standards" :confused: but,I suspect that's more a forum and magazine thing then what you will find in most basements or spare bedrooms.In fact I highly suspect you see more layouts like this gentleman had then those "supped up" layouts you see in magazines.

A simple tour of the layouts on YouTube will bare witness to that.:D

I'm in complete agreement with you on that. The thing I do like about the internet is that we get to see not only the great layouts but more average and obtainable ones too. I don't think you need to fool the eye on every turn to think it's the real world to be a model railroader. I even think the 'Toy' train types might have the right idea with their fun layouts. I'm very seriously considering an isolated Plasticville area that would be similar in style to this man's HO layout. This will be in my next layout, after I retire, God willing.
 
Gary, I sometimes wonder if we haven't wandered too far away from making "model train layouts" and too far toward "Miniature Train Scenes". This month's MR is a good example. Look at "Trackside Photos", page 78-79. I'm sure Mr. Nelson has great photography skills, and even better Photoshop skills. However, am I looking at a section of layout or just a heavily altered small diorama? Compare that to the "Under Wire" article starting on page 56. No Photoshop, just pictures of a really nice layout that took a lot of time and skill to build. Are there any flaws if I want to nitpick? Sure, I can find some in almost every picture. Still, the overall impression is one of outstanding workmanship and attention to detail on a massive scale. Which one is better? I don't know, but I like real layout pictures like the one in this thread more than most of the Photoshopped stuff I see in magazines and on the web now.
 
Jim - Agree totally, but oddly enough the Louisville & Nashville layout by Ron Wilhelm on page 48 of the issue is one of the most modest layouts I've seen in MR. Nice, neat, functional but small and doable. That said, the 'Under Wire' article blows me away! True, it may not be photo-realistic, but it is a masterpiece, in the true sense of the word.
 
Thought I would share this...

Thanks for posting this Aaron, and for referring me to this forum.

I typed up a long reply, then the page said I wasn't logged in and I lost it all! Argh, I'll try to summarize this time LOL

This photo was about 30 years ago, and you can see by the mantle how big into trains my grandfather was:

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Dick Carter was always a huge hobby train collector and had a garage or basement dedicated to HO scale realistic worlds that he built. This setup he has been working on since moving to PA about 10 years ago. He also has a couple smaller mobile N gauge setups that he took to local museums and town fairs to show off.

He was big into HAM radio and usd to drive a converted mini school bus filled with radio equipment for the local police and the Red Cross. The HAM guys back in CA have been doing a silent callout every night for 30 days in his honor.

He also used to be the train robber at Knotts Berry Farm and loved that job. The water tower you see in one of the overhead photos was a replica that he built himself from that amusement park. He had to most killer Koi pond and waterfalls, and a mini Hawaii in his backyard along with a huge deck and gazebo that he had built by hand for my mom as a child.

Dick was battling lung cancer for some time now, and the last trip to the hospital was scary enough for my mom to fly out right away. She spent a good few days with him there before seeing him come home on hospice care and passing the same night. He was very happy and loved, and died in peace with his only daughter and wife at his side. I flew out with my brother a few days later for the funeral. His wife loved him very much and went over the top to honor him. A full solid oak casket was tribute to how passionate he was about woodworking.

My grandfather was an honored war veteran serving the US Air Force in WWII and Korea. The service included a 21 gun salute, military plot, Taps, the whole bit. His pastor gave the eulogy and an officer from the air force gave a nice speech about his service as well. My brother and I got to be pallbearers and carry the casket draped in an American flag to the cemetery plot. It was a powerful experience and my first time stepping foot in a cemetery.

Now what's going on with his hobby... My brother and I always loved the trains since we were kids, so he is taking some of the HO stuff that's been around forever, and I'm taking some N gauge to setup our own tracks soon. I used some wooden bridges and his newer engine that made sound, to make a nice 3 car display for his wife to put on the mantle. I'm looking for places that might be interested in the 2 smaller N gauge setups, since they fit in the bed of a truck. His town museum wanted one, but they dont have the room for it in their small space.

He has a whole collection of older HO engines in a display case along with an entire G gauge set that I will be taking inventory and photographing to try and sell soon. I'm hoping for advice on how to properly take down the layouts, since you can tell they're too large to transport or ship, but I'd hate to just tear it all down. If I can find avid collectors as passionate as he was, I'll have boxes of tools, parts and pieces to go along with the stuff. Judging by EBay and this site, we should be able to sell some of the buildings and cars and engines at least, and all the money is going to his wife to repair the house. Their furnace is busted and needs to be replaced before winter, the AC is shotty, the shower doesn't work, etc etc. I'll be spending some time in PA to help her take care of it all.

I looked up a shop in Sarver, PA and heard about this guy they call the professor. I heard he is the guru in that state to go to for repairs or appraisals, and I'm hoping for helpful advice on how to methodically part out and sell much of his collection. We are only keeping a couple trains and the more sentimental parts and buildings that he built by hand, to carry the tradition in the family. He also has boxes of MR magazines, if you guys think those are worth a nickel or what I should do with them as well. It will take me some time as there is literally a ton of stuff to go through and document and photograph.

Thanks again for all the kind words and comments on his setups, on behalf of the whole family we appreciate everyone's reply and advice from here out.

cheers!
 
Oh and btw, do you guys have any info about the MR magazines out there? Is there a list somewhere that I might find emails to editors, etc in order to try and submit some of his photos? My brother and I shot them and thought it would be really neat to try and honor him by having one published somehow. Or do you think they'd even look twice at these setups? thanks in advance!
 
Glad to be of service! Nice write up on your Grandfather. Sounds like he was a stellar guy. It's men like him that we need more of in this world.
 
Very nice write-up.

Model Railroader may be interested in the photos, i dont know if theyd do a full article on his layout, but the have a "Trackside Photos" section where readers submit their photographs. Ive never sent anything to them, but it cant hurt to try, besides thats pretty good quality work. Anyways, heres that segments contact information.

8x10 Glossy color prints, or digital images 5 megapixel or better on CD-ROM

Model Railroader, Trackside Photos, P.O. Box 1612, Waukesha, WI 53187-1612.
Include caption, information, such as a description of whats going on in the photographs; the name, scale, era, and locale of the layout, and informatio about the rolling stock or structures pictured.
 
David, where did Dick live when he was a ham and worked with the local PD? I was with LASO from 1968 until 1973, and I remember a ham with the short school bus that used to come out when RACES was called for communications assistance. I don't know if it was Dick, but he looks familiar. I'm a ham radio operator also, and doing the "silent key" call is a high honor for a ham. You might also think about making a small donation in his name to the ARRL, which is the voice and advocate for ham radio operators. There's more information at http://www.arrl.org/ways-to-support-the-arrl-foundation. At least let them know he's passed away, so he can be listed in the Silent Key column. I think they'd probably be interested in his life story as well.

Things like old MR magazines are worth very little, maybe 25 to 50 cents each. When I moved and thought I wouldn't be involved in model railroading again, I donated all my magazines and books to the local library, that was happy to get them. If you and your brother think you might be carrying on your grandfather's love of model trains, I wouldn't be too quick to do anything with the magazines and books. I'd give a major body part to have all those back again now.

Sounds like your grandfather was a great representative of the Greatest Generation. I don't think we'll see many of his type again. :(
 






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