C & S West-Short Line

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Trussrod

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C & S West-SL construction once again continues. I started this layout approximately in 1998 but due to several reasons, one of which was the old
5'x9' layout that took up half of the 10' x 21' space I'm now utilizing and I wasn't sure if I was going to utilize some or all of that space. As such I had not progressed beyond the trackage/table work that reached the Ridge Crest area on the upper ML line with it's decending loop down to the lower line and the station at Five Oaks which has now been moved to the right side of the extented section as compared to how it's shown on the track plan. Be aware that the RTS software I was using doesn't seem to draw things in the proper perspective as there is approximately twice the space needed for the Five Oaks station and sidings.

This layout represents a branch line operation sometime around the turn of the Century and before, running small steam locs and a couple of early Box Cab deisel-track cleaners and two Shays for logging and a Climax for mine operations, so short trains or four and five cars are the norm and longer trains require double heading to climb the 6% grades to reach the Ridge Crest station area, engine house and turntable as well as to reach the Hootville station area, engine house and turn table.

Operation on the C&SW is point-to-point for freight and continuous loope running for passenger service. The main line, not counting passing sidings is approximately a 97' run


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The track plan can be a bit confusing at first. Ridge Crest is on the upper main line, 8.5" above the lower ML, and located on the Left end loop area and Hoot-ville is at the upper point at the other loop. This can be a bit confusing especially at the Ridge Crest area with it central tracks and the decending loop which curves around and under itself. Just remember there are two main elevations on the main line represented by the inside line which is basically at 0" until it reaches the loops on either end and then the elevation climbs to about 8.5" above the lower line.

Behind and above Ridge Crest is the Rio Lobo Logging trackage which climbs approximately 8" higher yet and transverse back and forth across that end in the woods and the tall trees as well as servicing the high country cattle area & pens.

The Atlas RTS program I used to draw the plan doesn't put things in the proper perspective but at least gives a general perspective of things. To emphasize this the area to the Right of the central extended area is twice as long as it looks and I somehow made the Right end a foot to narrower in depth too. Aslo the program only allows for either 18" Radius track or 24" and my raduses are about 20" so I chose to use 18"R to draw with but the loops are too small by 4" diameter so I acutally have more room than it seems on the inside of both loops.

I don't have all the table work up yet but the wood is cut and it's in the works.

I've already made some changes that the plan doesn't reflect such as swaping the Five Oaks area from the Left side to the Right side of the central extension and curve trustle and moving the Serpha Iron works building to the Left side where Five Oaks was. The central extension will have a somewhat low curved trestle, about 7" high, across it on the lower line. At this point I planning my trackage as I go along and considering how the scenery might look although I have a general idea I'm working from.

I'll be taking various pictures as I progress and on how I've done things. All my table work and road bed will be covered with 1/2" Celotex or Sound board on which either the Cork road bed is laid or will form the ground level areas for stations and yard tracks etc.

I'm going to be hand laying code 70 weathered rail for the main line and code 55 WR for the yards, sidings, mines and the logging areas along with building all my switches to fit the situation at hand.

Let me know your thoughts and any suggestions or questions you may have.
 
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Hi Maljunulo,
Yes I do, it an early Box Cab Deisel with the track cleaning attachments added on either end. These are just held on to the frame with screws and easily removed and the end beams snap onto the frame once the cleaning drums and plungers are removed.

I like it with the cleaning drums attached as it not can pull other cars around but is cleaning the track at the same time.

HTH,

David

http://www.modelrailroadphotos.com/photos/data/500/thumbs/MDC_Box_Cab_Track_Cleaner_Reszd_600x400


Photo will not display nor does the site acknowledge it saved on here but it is! Go to My/Photos and it's there
 
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Look under photos for, ' Trussrod ' and it's there. It's also showing in the photos that come up when the site is loaded!

Or you can send me your email address and I'll email you the image.

David Smith
Also take a look at my ad under, 'For Sale/ Wanted To Buy, Model RR Supplies !
 
A track technique.

In my ongoing effort to construct the C & S West SL RR, using many of the old tried and true methods as well as some new ones I'll try to keep you updated on the progress and the techniques I've used.

As some of my previous photos show I'm using 1/2" plywood for the track base with 1/2" Celotex & Sound board for the sub roadbed with cork roadbed
laid on top of that. Using this method does create a bit of a poblem when you want to have the track to trangress to running on leve ground where it was previously on raised roadbed.

Here's is a simple method of making an easy and smooth transgression from being on road bed to being laid on the ground as in yards or sidings, spurs or at stations areas.


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Because I need to lower the the plywood road bed by a 1/4" to bring height of the cork RB even with the ground level I added a piece of 1/4" plywood between the tieplate on the ground level side plywood/OSB . The small piece
of Celotex represents the Sound board surface for that area.

This transision shimming joins the existing table work with Ridge Crest on the upper level to the begining of the table work that runs along the long wall of the layout toward where Five Oaks has been moved and the Copper mine on the far side of the central hill.

I'm now waiting on a new variable speed Jig Saw and four small saw horses to support the Sound board while being cut. I also need to figure just how deep I need the area at the Serpha Copper & Iron Works to be and trim the O
SB table top in depth so as to allow for the uprights for the upper level track to come over to the mountain area and the McKelear Coal Mine while keeping realistic distances from the front in the process and allowing the mine spur to come of that on the back side and climb up to the Coal mine.

Lots of planning to be worked out.
 
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Hi Evo,
Thanks for the inquiry.
Yes I'm quite sure there should be no problem even on an 8% grades especially for the Shays. You have to remember that I'm running fairly early steam locomotives so light pulls are the norm. Right now for mainline work a little 2-8-0 pulls 4 MDC cars, [two flat's, a box car and tank car plus a drovers caboose fitted with seating up a 6% grade. Granted these cars are empty but I think the engine would even pul them with a light load, if not that would reason to double head and increase the consist to 9 cars.

I also tried and MDC Climax I'm breaking in and it pulled these MDC cars, 3 refers, a box car, an empty old time log car and a short 4 wheel caboose up the same 6% grade.

As a bit of information, one of the steapest RR in the country, running standard Shay's, is the Cass Scenic RR in West Virginia with 11% grades!!
 


Hi Paul,
Apologies for not replying sooner, seem like nothing but computer problems but think their straightened out now hopefully!

Thanks for your reply and the, 'Good Luck' it's appreciated. It's getting interesting as even though I have a general plan I find myself already making changes and revisions for better operation as I'm actually laying out the track work on the table top for the lower elevation mainline [ML] and sidings as well as allowing for the upper ML as best I can while trying to visualize also
how the scenery will look, so revisions are a natural process for me and most everyone I would imagine.

I'm working with new materials such as sound board for the ground level base
and I find due to it's medium Brown color I need to paint it flat white or light
Tan to be able to easily see my pencil lines.

It's getting exciting as I had penciled in the main line over to the curve going into the central extension, I had a siding for the Serpha Iron & Copper Works as well as an additional siding toward the outside edge for addidional storage/operation.


Take care, I'll post more shots as things progress,

David
Ps: NY/Mineola Long Island was my birth place.
 
Hi david!

ver interesting layoutdesign!
and working with "good ol'stuff" ;) :trackbase roadbed


david :
It's getting interesting as even though I have a general plan I find myself already making changes and revisions for better operation as I'm actually laying out the track work on the table top for the lower elevation mainline [ML] and sidings as well as allowing for the upper ML as best I can while trying to visualize also
how the scenery will look, so revisions are a natural process for me and most everyone I would imagine.
It is the same way it happened to us with our new N modules...we designed it in about 1/2 year with 2 people...andnow we start to lay tracks: STILL doin some modifications!! ;)
btw: like you "trackcleaning dieselengine"!

Jos
 
Thanks Jos,
I re-drew the track plan right on the ground board with paper on top of it but I can tell I'd be much better off painting the sound board a flat white so once I get the track design down as I want it I can start laying ties over my design. The area I'm working on is the initial section where Five Oaks was, now where the Serpha Iron & Copper Works will be, and I added a siding along the front but I can see I've got the tracks spaced too far apart and it just doesn't look wright as there's a siding on either side of the main line which is fine but I've spread things out too much I feel but that's what the design process is all about.

Thanks for the compliment about my Box Cab Deisel/track-Cleaner. Did you know that the Deisel salesman that sold the C & S West that Deisel and another one was hung shortly afterwards as he made to many false claims about their ability, I did that as a tribute to John Allen who hated Deisels back in the early times.

Hope you get your track mods done on your modules.

Later,
David
 
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