brand new n scale vehicles
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This must be the reason that Canadian fellow has been selling copies of Walther's vehicles for the last 3 years.
Using the HO to N scale logic that means anybody that does a black Trans Am in a different scale is using somebody else's model,right?
By the way a cad program will not make a mold no matter what kind of magic you use.
Since the models of the Trans Am are of the same car don't you think they should resemble each other.I mean the HO version looks like the 1:24th version which looks like the 1:18th version.
If you guys don't like our N scale stuff why don't you stay in the HO forums ?
Ill bet ya on that.
try producing something with ford, GM, chrylser ect's name on it with out a license. It wont be long before your being sued.
Yes the mfg's do have lisenses to manufacture anything with an auto co's name on it.
Umm im being biased here,cause i normally dont respond to this stuff. but you freaked out just because a person asked if it was your own mold of if ya just copied it from something else.
All you had to do was say a simple yes they are or no there not.
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DakotaLove39
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My only question is.. are you sure it's legal? Did you make molds yourself, or did you use products from another company to sculpt the mold?
Trucklover
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That bus looks pretty cool!
The correct place to have posted this is in the Forum Members eBay subforum at http://www.modelrailroadforums.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=52. However, I too wonder if this is original work or you did the casting from diecast vehicles from other manufacturers? If it's your own original design and work, you did a nice job. If you used other commercial products as the basis for your molds, you may be facing a lawsuit if someone from the company that made the original recognizes it here or on eBay. It's common for company staff to scan eBay listings looking for unlicensed copies of their work.
stang_crazy
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wow...
DakotaLove39
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I always ask that question. Many people in the Warhammer community try to pull such things as copying parts/models or scratchbuilding their own and end up facing serious consequences. Some deserve it and some don't, so I try and save those who don't from a hard-fought and expensive legal battle.
Hate to say it Jim, but usually the company holding the rights to the original tend to have an army of the world's superior lawyers.
Hate to say it Jim, but usually the company holding the rights to the original tend to have an army of the world's superior lawyers.
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catt
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Can you folks show me the cars he made molds from? I didn't think so .
Johnathan, look at the Walthers/Classic Metal Works HO scale intercity bus and Malibu HO scale Trans-Am, assuming you remember the pictures that were posted. There was more than a passing resemblance. The question was if he used commercially produced models as the basis of his vehicles, not just N scale vehicles. It's not hard to scale down an HO model to N scale if you know how to use CAD and produce resin molds from the results. The question was a reasonable one and anyone producing their own original work would have been happy to show us how it was done. The tone of his reply is the same one I would get when I caught a suspect in an obvious lie. He had the chance to answer the question if he was honest but he chose to pick up his toys and go home. Your choice if you want to believe someone like that.
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catt
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This must be the reason that Canadian fellow has been selling copies of Walther's vehicles for the last 3 years.
Using the HO to N scale logic that means anybody that does a black Trans Am in a different scale is using somebody else's model,right?
By the way a cad program will not make a mold no matter what kind of magic you use.
Since the models of the Trans Am are of the same car don't you think they should resemble each other.I mean the HO version looks like the 1:24th version which looks like the 1:18th version.
If you guys don't like our N scale stuff why don't you stay in the HO forums ?
Johnathan, I don't know what burr is under your saddle, but it's not a matter of N scale versus HO. Even if you discount the Trans-Am, the bus looked like an exact copy of the Walthers bus. Using CAD and 3-D modeling, you can reduce or increase the dimensions of any model and have molds made, it's done all the time. He was asked a simple question - is this your original work or not? Any legitimate business person could and would provide an answer. He chose to get mad and stomp off. My 30 years of law enforcement experience tells me that guys who get mad when asked simple questions have been caught in a lie.
I have no idea about what Canadian fellow is producing copies of Walthers vehicles. If you provide me a link, I'll be happy to forward it to Walthers, something that, as an honest citizen, you should have already done. Companies have a right to profit from their work. People who copy their products and sell them without a license are no different than a guy who breaks into you home and takes your TV. They are both thieves.
I have no idea about what Canadian fellow is producing copies of Walthers vehicles. If you provide me a link, I'll be happy to forward it to Walthers, something that, as an honest citizen, you should have already done. Companies have a right to profit from their work. People who copy their products and sell them without a license are no different than a guy who breaks into you home and takes your TV. They are both thieves.
blownoutcylinder
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If someone can show me where the "original" mold came from for this fellow to produce that wonderful hot rod on one of the other threads then we may have something---all the tractor molds --with them labelled "red", "green" or such still could be pulled just because someone squawks about this. If someone really wants to be questioning this then let us ask if ANY of the scale mfg's has gone to Ford, GM, Audi, et cetera to get specific licensing for their vehicles--and how far back do those licences go? And if these were for personal use then why are we panicking over copyright? Oh BTW--if you sell these as used better be careful even then---
If N scale cannot do any autos, trucks and such without someone jumping on them ( and there seems to be a lot more of this lately) then it looks like the N scale modelers will have to carve ---literally ---everything from styrene blocks. And their vehicles would have to be radically different in kind from everything known to mankind---to avoid copyright issues
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Until such a time that someone can prove in a court of law that this fellow has in fact broke some kind of copyright law or such he should be assumed innocent until he is PROVEN guilty----as this is still a part of our laws here--
If N scale cannot do any autos, trucks and such without someone jumping on them ( and there seems to be a lot more of this lately) then it looks like the N scale modelers will have to carve ---literally ---everything from styrene blocks. And their vehicles would have to be radically different in kind from everything known to mankind---to avoid copyright issues
sheeshUntil such a time that someone can prove in a court of law that this fellow has in fact broke some kind of copyright law or such he should be assumed innocent until he is PROVEN guilty----as this is still a part of our laws here--
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it realy does not matter now. i created these to fill in a huge gap and was sick of the same stuff being offered and felt every one else felt the same way, figured i would sell some to help along the next vehicle budget.. but no! mr big bad police man and his mob threw a rope over my neck and strung me up with out any real cause. i guess this cop probly bullies folks when hes on duty too. so, yes im very angry about this. so, none of them will go up for sale or even donated or taded. they will go on my latout only. so, to the other guys, sorry about clan that stung me up on the oak branch before eeven having a chance to ride into town. this is how i feel now, and not one of those guys bothered to even say sorry yet. bunch of bull right here.
stang_crazy
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Ill bet ya on that.
try producing something with ford, GM, chrylser ect's name on it with out a license. It wont be long before your being sued.
Yes the mfg's do have lisenses to manufacture anything with an auto co's name on it.
stang_crazy
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Umm im being biased here,cause i normally dont respond to this stuff. but you freaked out just because a person asked if it was your own mold of if ya just copied it from something else.
All you had to do was say a simple yes they are or no there not.
your absolultly right on it! did any one ever see a liscence rights of any type on the back of road apples packaging? how about DETAIL ASSOCIATES?
what about ALLOY FORMS? darn right thats abig fat no! yall starting to catch on to why i blew up? majorety of these folks dont pay any contribution to any gm, ford, or any other maker for rights to the production they did. so those of you that jumped me, i guess you best run to your layouts right now and toss out the stuff that not lisc. that sitting on your layouts.
what about ALLOY FORMS? darn right thats abig fat no! yall starting to catch on to why i blew up? majorety of these folks dont pay any contribution to any gm, ford, or any other maker for rights to the production they did. so those of you that jumped me, i guess you best run to your layouts right now and toss out the stuff that not lisc. that sitting on your layouts.
think about all those houses and buildings, is any of the packaging those came in say any type of hint that any rights or lisc. has been granted from the original desiner of those that did the blue prints or built the buildings in real life?, darn right, thats a big fat no!
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