Weathering Rolling Stock, a Continous thread

[Smudge617]

When did you start backing away? lol…


just kidding.

When I realised you two have a far better eye for this kind of work than me, I hadn't even noticed the dabbing effect on the car which you did, really proves my point.

 

[Smudge617]

How do you handle your trains after applying weathering with chalk?

very carefully of course

 

[migalyto]

What brand of track is that in the second picture?

Atlas code 83

 

[migalyto]

The second Atlas Center Partition car is done. Similar but different

Excellent job on the Centerbeams!

 

[CambriaArea51]

How do you handle your trains after applying weathering with chalk?

I wear gloves when dull coating and anything after. Your fingers will leave an oil mark then when use chalk your fingerprint will appear.

So I did my wash last night and wasn't very happy with the results. I ended up washing it off to start over. I'm not sure if wetting the model would of helped some. The wash I'm using is Monroe Models delta dirt, Its pre-mixed, but went on very dark. I wonder if thinning it some would work out better?

I will let you all be the judge. Maybe these were OK results, and I'm too big of a critic on myself?

Here was the result of the wash: Both sides of the model.

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First pic was prefect, should've left it. Dull coating will lighten it. As for the scratch these hopper cars get sideswiped all the time putting scratches down the side. I would use a dark rust in the scratch and then run it down with lighter rust.

 

[Hutch]

I wear gloves when dull coating and anything after. Your fingers will leave an oil mark then when use chalk your fingerprint will appear.

First pic was prefect, should've left it. Dull coating will lighten it. As for the scratch these hopper cars get sideswiped all the time putting scratches down the side. I would use a dark rust in the scratch and then run it down with lighter rust.

I'm not sure I understand. Do you spray dull coat over the chalk?

 

[CambriaArea51]

Mike you can use the Monroe powders as a wash. This video at about 430 shows this.

 

[migalyto]

Thank you very much! I've lived in the Northwest Suburbs all my life, near Arlington Heights. Saying Chicago is a bit of a lie as I could go for a walk and see farmland, where as it takes me well over an hour to reach down town by car or rail. Still, it's the closest city and most my friends live there. Still nice to see a local here!

Small world:

I spent a couple of years living in Carol Stream When I attended Tech school at UTI in Glendale Heights. I worked at the Sears Auto center at Woodfield Mall the entire time I attended school. So I'm very familiar with your area. I still live in Illinois. About an hour south of Rockford.

My Father-in-law loved going to the racetrack in Arlington. We would go there every year for his Birthday Memorial Day weekend., and then go to Bob Chinns in Wheeling for dinner.

 

[TLOC]

How do you handle your trains after applying weathering with chalk?

I use Pan Pastels that if I handle the piece can leave finger prints. If the piece is to be sold I spray a Matt varnish. I have been using VMS’s flat clear and it’s much less aggressive then the Testors spray can dull cote. The dull cote in my experience just melts away the pan pastels. I have just started using Army Painters matt clear which is water based. It is even less aggressive than the VMS and on the few pieces I have done with Pan Pastels it works very well.

If it’s a personal model, once it’s on the layout I rarely touch it. I don’t spray a finishing clear on my own models
then.

The Monroe powders are definitely different then what I use

 

[migalyto]

I really like the scratched decal side. Well done.

The other side I am torn about. I like it but the it looks like there is a dabbing effect from the sponge. Or the spotting from a “acid” rain shower. Maybe another application with the same color and turn the sponge differently from the previous application.

So you think the wash strength is good, and didn't need thinned? It was straight out of the bottle of pre-mix. When I diluted it down it barely showed on the second try.

I used the same sponge on the splotchy side, do you suppose I should have used a new one for each side. They're the triangular sponges for make-up that you buy in bulk.

You may be right that I dabbed. I know on the first side (scratched side) i careful pulled down, but don't know if i repeated the same process on the second side. I guess another lesson learned. Pay attention to your process!

 

[TLOC]

Excellent job on the Centerbeams!

Thanks. The client likes them too. The next 2 though he wants completely different and I am mulling that plan of attack. Don’t have to worry about it now as I wont touch them at least for a couple weeks

 

[TLOC]

So you think the wash strength is good, and didn't need thinned? It was straight out of the bottle of pre-mix. When I diluted it down it barely showed on the second try.

I used the same sponge on the splotchy side, do you suppose I should have used a new one for each side. They're the triangular sponges for make-up that you buy in bulk.

You may be right that I dabbed. I know on the first side (scratched side) i careful pulled down, but don't know if i repeated the same process on the second side. I guess another lesson learned. Pay attention to your process!

I only mentioned dabbing because the spotting seemed really consistent to me. I am a dabber!

I use sponges (the same one) repeatedly and they are also the bulk pack make-up ones.

Paying attention to the process. Easier said than done especially as you practice. That’s partly why I write it down.

I have some pre-mixed washes from Vallejo and AK Interactive. I did not thin them. Though I rarely use them now as I prefer my own mixes, I should use them up. I feel an experimental hopper or 5 coming up soon.

 

[BunkerTheHusky]

Small world:

I spent a couple of years living in Carol Stream When I attended Tech school at UTI in Glendale Heights. I worked at the Sears Auto center at Woodfield Mall the entire time I attended school. So I'm very familiar with your area. I still live in Illinois. About an hour south of Rockford.

My Father-in-law loved going to the racetrack in Arlington. We would go there every year for his Birthday Memorial Day weekend., and then go to Bob Chinns in Wheeling for dinner.

Wow, small world indeed! I used to go see the horses race all the time with my opah while he was still alive. Great memories!

An hour south of Rockford...That puts you fairly close to Rochelle, then, correct? I'm out there at the railroad park every once in awhile!

 

[TLOC]

Wow, small world indeed! I used to go see the horses race all the time with my opah while he was still alive. Great memories!

An hour south of Rockford...That puts you fairly close to Rochelle, then, correct? I'm out there at the railroad park every once in awhile!

If you and Mike ever want to meet up at the Railroad Park in Rochelle let me know. 70 miles for me. About an 80 minute drive. Terry has had enough watching trains there with me but I still love the place

 

[migalyto]

Wow, small world indeed! I used to go see the horses race all the time with my opah while he was still alive. Great memories!

An hour south of Rockford...That puts you fairly close to Rochelle, then, correct? I'm out there at the railroad park every once in awhile!

Yes, I'm about 30 miles south of Rochelle. Straight down I-39.

 

[migalyto]

If you and Mike ever want to meet up at the Railroad Park in Rochelle let me know. 70 miles for me. About an 80 minute drive. Terry has had enough watching trains there with me but I still love the place

Maybe this summer when the weather gets nicer several of us could meet up to do some railfanning. There is the other Mike that lives very near there as well.

 

[TLOC]

Finished 3 High Cube 60’ box cars

 

[CambriaArea51]

Look great Tom.

 

[TLOC]

Look great Tom.

Thank you.

 

[TLOC]

The plan was not to spend anytime today weathering…I accomplished that

So pictures of projects finished but not posted before.

Yes, a couple more ARMN reefers. These were purchased clean from me in December as the client didn’t want them weathered. After seeing on Facebook the lightly weathered reefers I did, he sent these back saying weather them. So I did…

A couple diesels. The BNSF is now completed but not so in this picture. I generally do not test run client equipment. Client said please, so I will run it tomorrow

The CN is mine and I tried to take off the Microscale paint masking I used. Pulled off 2 windshield wipers. Yep, like I needed an excuse to hit the LHS

Based on the ARMN and road number these trucks and wheelsets are for the above 2 cars. Yes, I painted the wheel faces after this picture was taken.

I really enjoyed weathering this Walthers Proto line series of a 30,600 gallon tank car. I would rank this just a touch behind Scaletrains Rivet Counter tank cars and definitely far ahead of any Genesis tank car. Over all a better value as it’s $5.00 less than the ST or Genesis pricing. There is a grime base of Tamiya earth tan on the car frame. Followed with Army Painters Matt clear, then Pan Pastels dark umber heavily anpplied around the center panel ladders. Then PP charcoal gray touched on the top of the car and blended lightly with the bigger poofy cosmetic brush.

The above 2 BNSF cars were heavily faded using VMS Matt clear varnish with 1 drop of Tamiya x-21 base added. Then a very light dusting of a brown grime mix. A edge spray of tan earth on the bottom sill. Some brush work using Vallejo Air burnt umber and light rust on the door hinges, locks and rods. Then another spray of VMS’s Matt clear. A slight rust mix across both roofs. These are the High Cube 60’ cars from Walthers Mainline series.