Weathering Locos and Rolling Stock

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Greg@mnrr

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Hello Forum:

Just checking to see how many of the forum members weather their locomotives and rolling stock. If you weather, do what methods do you use and please post a photo or two of your favorites.

Those who do not weather, what specific reason is why you prefer not to weather.

This is an informal survey.

Thanks.

Greg


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Montanan:

Actually the Milwaukee Northern just purchased the tired loco for use as a local switcher. The Milwaukee Northern has a small operating budget and this old rust bucket had a price tag the management couldn't refuse.

It's going into the shops to have "MN" patched over the Rock Island logo on the cab and hopefully see many years of additional service.
Thanks.

Greg
 


I do weather my locomotives and rolling stock, but not to this level. Trains don't stay clean very long even if they are washed on a regular basis. I usually weather lightly.

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I weather some of my stuff, usually the cheap stuff I buy on ebay. I am far from a professional at this but sometimes like to dirty things up a bit:

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I use india ink and water wash and went over it a few times to bring out the boards, and used black chalk on the roof.

A lot of the pictures of the stuff from the 50's doesn't seem real dirty to me. At least, on my railroad, the stuff is not that dirty. I would add that I like a few new cars on the layout because sometimes, cars are pretty new.
 
Tank car 54.JPGRon's pics1 1083 (Large).jpgRon's pics1 960 (Large).jpgP8300006 (Large).JPGI like to weather all my rolling stock and locos. I use acrylic, gauche and oil paint, chalk and diluted leather dye for most of my weathering.
 
Weathering is something I need to do. But I don't like heavily weathered locomotives, even though they are Alcos! I will use chalks so if not successful it can be washed off. ;)
 
I have yet to weather anything of mine. I do have some weathered cars I've purchased but nothing done myself. I will be attempting to teach myself to weather engines and rolling stock shortly but having a hard time bringing myself to do it.
 
I have yet to weather anything of mine. I do have some weathered cars I've purchased but nothing done myself. I will be attempting to teach myself to weather engines and rolling stock shortly but having a hard time bringing myself to do it.

I know how you feel Steve. Which is why I will be using chalks ;)
 


I took a few more pictures of the freight cars that I have been experimenting on, Again, I am no pro at this but try to make stuff look ok if you don't be too critical. This is the one my wife likes the best:

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I like it too, I used india ink and water, also some watered down acrylic black paint and white paint and a little black weathering powder. I painted the trucks on that one too. I used a paint brush and a mixture of some acrylic paints.


I know these next two are old Walthers kits that I purchased on ebay, came complete and ready to assemble. I used india ink and water, also white wash, black wash, and black weathering powder. I remember having to go over them several times before the treatment showed. I haven't touched the trucks yet:
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This is an old Life Like that I just used a gray wash on to tone down the shiny property.

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Heavily Weathered Allegheny Loco

Over on this other subject thread are some photos I posted of a heavily weathered Allegheny locomotive.

http://www.modelrailroadforums.com/forum/showthread.php?15747-C-amp-O-Allegeheny-Sound&p=296774#post296774

http://www.modelrailroadforums.com/forum/showthread.php?15747-C-amp-O-Allegeheny-Sound&p=296854#post296854

I purchased this loco off of Ebay, and from the initial photos posted in the auction I was concerned it was tooo much.
But WOW, when I got it in the mail I was VERY HAPPY with the weathering job. I now want to learn how they (he) did it, as I have it mind for some other locos of mine.

This weathering job just brings out the GREAT detail that exist on these Rivarossi Allegheny models.....remember this is a plastic (not brass) model.
Brian
 
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Those look real good Corey. the more I see of the chalks, the more likely I am going to concentrate on those methods.
Brian
 
It's not really that hard. I was intimidated about weathering years back in just sucked it up and gave it a shot. One of my first attempts was this Northern Pacific box car. I have no idea where it came from and had something that had been spilled on it and I was ready to toss it in the trash. I model the transition era, so black chalk was used to show where water would have streaked the sides of the cars with coal dust. Then an airbrush was used to show where mud and dust would have been picked up around the lower parts of the car. When finished, it got an over spray of dull coat.

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The same thing was done with this Milwaukee Road switcher.

IMAG0056.jpg It turned out that it wasn't difficult at all. I started building my rolling stock fleet as I was building the layout. I bought a number of undecorated Athearn Blue Box kits and got to work, weathering them the same way. Once I got the hang of it I found that it only took a few minutes do do it. Here are a few more samples.

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I'm sure that you probably have some old rolling stock laying around somewhere that you have thought about heaving out. Give it a try. What's to lose.

Years back I used to go to Great Falls, MT each year during their state fair to help them with their open house. Their rent for the years was to have trains operating during state fair. What a deal. I unloaded a bunch of the weathered freight cars and most of the club members were really giving them the once over as all of their equipment looked brand new. Later during the open house many of the visitors were commenting on how they looked dirty, just like the real ones.

The next year you would be suprised how many of the club members had weathered their equipment.

One thing to remember is that if you use lighter color chalks, the dull coat can almost make the chalk disappear. You can test this on a piece of cardboard or even a scrap of paper.

Give it a try, it's really a lot of fun and will make your equipment look better.
 
Thanks Brian. I don't handle the rolling stock or locos very often so it doesn't rub off much. I usually spray them with a matte finish and then add the scraped pastel powder with a brush. After building up a few layers I hit it with the matte finish again to seal some of it in. Spraying it again blows some of it off so I go back an dust it again. After that it's pretty good to go. Having said all that, I've considered the bragdon weathering powders since they have a pressure activated adhesive.
 
I do weather, and I use a variety of techniques. Airbrush, chalks, colored pencils, oil paints, dry brushing and so forth. No one method is a silver bullet, though of I just want to do a quickie job, some Dullcote and a little dust and grime applied with an airbrush does the trick. I use watercolors, so if I don't like the result, the paint can be washed off.

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it is not an exact science. You'll get your best results working from photos.
 
I see post after post and article after article talking about the medium used for weather. (Chalk, paint, etc) but what I've never seen is how to apply that medium.

What do you do to get the chalk on the car? Paintbrush? Finger? just drop it on?

That's the key element I'm somehow missing in 'how to weather'.
 


The weathering powders (looks like chalk) I bought is from Bar Mills. When I checked out their site I couldn't find the powders so maybe don't sell them any more.

I used a small soft bristle paint brush to apply them. Sometimes I tried mixing them with paint and water and that worked for a rust look. They are messy but if careful I like the results. They came in 4 colors including black and I usually use black and one of the rust colors.

Some use plain chalk but I have been really happy with these powders and it looks like my initial package will last my whole life since it doesn't take much and I don't do heavy weathering.
 




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