TLOC
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You meet hit the grills with the light grime coat?
Weathering Engines a Continuous thread.
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Needs more paint, definitely
I learned:
how to do the grills using a Q-tip instead of a brush. That was a tip from the forum: the rail-wire after I showed a picture there
Locomotives are much for time consuming
This is probably the most overseen weathering I have ever done for 1 piece. He was way too involved but it will make his next 3 easier as I know what he wants and the shades. I have a zillion mixture notes on the mixtures I tested and the ones I used.
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TLOC
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I didn’t realize it was post #18 of yours I was looking at. That picture is what made me realize I am not happy with the grills I have done
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CambriaArea51
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I use flat black then airbrush grimy black to blend.
Smudge617
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The lower part of the grill where rain etc. is likely, yes, as that would wash the soot down onto areas below the grill.
TLOC
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I am so glad I decided to take the following pictures before I put this bad boy in its box to be shipped out
There is a broken front step…
I will be so happy when the client receives this and his weathered freight cars. I am except for packaging this up on Saturday, out of the weathering business till Tuesday, 4/4/2023.
There is a broken front step…
I will be so happy when the client receives this and his weathered freight cars. I am except for packaging this up on Saturday, out of the weathering business till Tuesday, 4/4/2023.
TLOC
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Thank you. This was a great machine to weather but it had its moments.
I learned:
how to do the grills using a Q-tip instead of a brush. That was a tip from the forum: the rail-wire after I showed a picture there
Locomotives are much for time consuming
TLOC
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Thanks Chris
CambriaArea51
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Looks great Tom.
TLOC
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Thank you much appreciated.
This is probably the most overseen weathering I have ever done for 1 piece. He was way too involved but it will make his next 3 easier as I know what he wants and the shades. I have a zillion mixture notes on the mixtures I tested and the ones I used.
TLOC
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I had a surprise show up before midnight on 4/13. I was told to expect a package as a client just ordered a diesel and was having it shipped to me from Washington.
Athearn Genesis SD70M UP4944. It showed up this morning at 9:45 UPS. Less then 18 hours for $15.00, not bad
The windows were taped over. The clear coat was applied and dried for 3 hours.
The grills are being darken with a mix of Vallejo Air #71.057 Black (3 drops) and #71.036 Mahogany (5 drops) and clear tap water (3 drops). Brushed on with #0 brush. Dried with help from hair dryer. Once dried the grills have a ting of rusty brown along with the black. Some touch up but much better then doing the grills on the last BNSF unit.
Here are some pictures of the prototype that again are used for inspiration not an exact copy. Photos are credited to the photographers on the picture frame
Athearn Genesis SD70M UP4944. It showed up this morning at 9:45 UPS. Less then 18 hours for $15.00, not bad
The windows were taped over. The clear coat was applied and dried for 3 hours.
The grills are being darken with a mix of Vallejo Air #71.057 Black (3 drops) and #71.036 Mahogany (5 drops) and clear tap water (3 drops). Brushed on with #0 brush. Dried with help from hair dryer. Once dried the grills have a ting of rusty brown along with the black. Some touch up but much better then doing the grills on the last BNSF unit.
Here are some pictures of the prototype that again are used for inspiration not an exact copy. Photos are credited to the photographers on the picture frame
TLOC
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Whether you start with a locomotive or a piece of rolling stock, practice on a car you don’t care about. Once you pick up the brush it may become hard to put downJust went through this whole thread. Wow! Some great work here.
I've yet to attempt weathering on my freight cars let alone my locos. Very impressive stuff
TLOC
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On April 13th I received an unexpected diesel. UP 4944 sd70m. A nice machine.
I did clear coat it in April but there were many things in front of it and after discussions with its owner, he was fine and was hoping to get it in June sometime. He will. I have played with this guy on and mostly off in May. But this week I had some night time available by multitasking. Instead of just watching the NHL playoffs in my cave, I watched the hockey on the IPadPro in the train room.
Some pictures of a work in process (WIP)
The body grime is a mix of Vallejo Air paints: 2 drops of dark dirt, 1 drop of dark gray and 2 drops of rust. Thinned with 25 drops of tap water shaken to mix and then and hand brushed on. For me this was enough to do one side and both end panels. For the body before the FIRST coat of weathering grime was brushed on I brush on clear tap water in the area to be weathered. About 3 brushes wide is what I wet. Then brush the wash on. Then move down the body. Do this until the color fits the eye. I also varied the panels. Not all had the same amount of applications.
truck frames are hand brushed with Vallejo Air burnt umber 3 drops to water 30 drops or 1-10 ratio. That‘s enough to do 1 truck and the 1st coat of the fuel tank. It wasn’t rusty enough for the client so I did a 2 drops burnt umber to 4 drops water and touched it up. He’s happier now. I will run some black Tamiya panel liner into the seams and crevices.
The roof is Vallejo air black 1 drop to 25 drops water. Black goes a longggggg way. So it’s better to do light coats and just keep building it up. I did maybe 6 applications using a hair dryer between applications till it looked good to me. After the client viewed it I added 4 more applications and again the client is peachy with it
The fans on the roof were done with Mission models grimy black, 1 drop thinned with 2 drops of water.
The radiator grills are Vallejo Air 2 drops Mahogany and 1 drop Vallejo flat Black thinned with 9 drops of water.
I still have to work on the front plow, the fuel tank and the rear end. There needs to be on front plow some rust spots per the prototype picture being used as the inspiration for this unit. Those left side splotches will be removed on the plow
I did clear coat it in April but there were many things in front of it and after discussions with its owner, he was fine and was hoping to get it in June sometime. He will. I have played with this guy on and mostly off in May. But this week I had some night time available by multitasking. Instead of just watching the NHL playoffs in my cave, I watched the hockey on the IPadPro in the train room.
Some pictures of a work in process (WIP)
The body grime is a mix of Vallejo Air paints: 2 drops of dark dirt, 1 drop of dark gray and 2 drops of rust. Thinned with 25 drops of tap water shaken to mix and then and hand brushed on. For me this was enough to do one side and both end panels. For the body before the FIRST coat of weathering grime was brushed on I brush on clear tap water in the area to be weathered. About 3 brushes wide is what I wet. Then brush the wash on. Then move down the body. Do this until the color fits the eye. I also varied the panels. Not all had the same amount of applications.
truck frames are hand brushed with Vallejo Air burnt umber 3 drops to water 30 drops or 1-10 ratio. That‘s enough to do 1 truck and the 1st coat of the fuel tank. It wasn’t rusty enough for the client so I did a 2 drops burnt umber to 4 drops water and touched it up. He’s happier now. I will run some black Tamiya panel liner into the seams and crevices.
The roof is Vallejo air black 1 drop to 25 drops water. Black goes a longggggg way. So it’s better to do light coats and just keep building it up. I did maybe 6 applications using a hair dryer between applications till it looked good to me. After the client viewed it I added 4 more applications and again the client is peachy with it
The fans on the roof were done with Mission models grimy black, 1 drop thinned with 2 drops of water.
The radiator grills are Vallejo Air 2 drops Mahogany and 1 drop Vallejo flat Black thinned with 9 drops of water.
I still have to work on the front plow, the fuel tank and the rear end. There needs to be on front plow some rust spots per the prototype picture being used as the inspiration for this unit. Those left side splotches will be removed on the plow
Jaz avalley
Station cat
My kind of weathering love it
TLOC
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thank you
TLOC
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Next up after 6 weeks of traveling and doing anything else but trains, I have returned.
UP 9807 is a Athearn RTR HO scale Locomotive that has added DCC, sound and ditchlights.
Using a prototype picture I noticed the red sill stripe on the model is yellow on the real thing, there is no front plow and a couple other nitpicky things. The client has decided not to worry about the red sill stripe and I can find a plow and windshield wipers, so all is ok.
The photo was found online at RRpictureArchives.net, and taken by Bob Keenan in 2017.
As usual the picture is for inspiration and I am trying to capture the essence of the real thing, not duplicate it.
Cleaning was done by swiping the entire unit with 99% Isopropyl Alcohol with a brush and letting it dry.
1st up are the trucks and underframe. Remember this is a first coat and will look a bit rough
The engineer side panel of the unit also now has its 1st coats, again it’s rough looking
the radiator grills have been dashed with black (Tamiya panel liner)
There will be some touch up and clean up when I come back tonight to this side.
All paints are the Vallejo Air series, hand brushed. As mentioned the radiators were done with Tamiya’s panel liner.
To blend everything I will be using Pan Pastels, but we are a few days at least away from that.
As always constructive criticism is welcome. Remember though this is a start not the ending. The roughness is part of the process, at least for me.
This client specially requested no airbrushing except for clear coating.
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UP 9807 is a Athearn RTR HO scale Locomotive that has added DCC, sound and ditchlights.
The photo was found online at RRpictureArchives.net, and taken by Bob Keenan in 2017.
As usual the picture is for inspiration and I am trying to capture the essence of the real thing, not duplicate it.
Cleaning was done by swiping the entire unit with 99% Isopropyl Alcohol with a brush and letting it dry.
1st up are the trucks and underframe. Remember this is a first coat and will look a bit rough
The engineer side panel of the unit also now has its 1st coats, again it’s rough looking
the radiator grills have been dashed with black (Tamiya panel liner)
There will be some touch up and clean up when I come back tonight to this side.
All paints are the Vallejo Air series, hand brushed. As mentioned the radiators were done with Tamiya’s panel liner.
To blend everything I will be using Pan Pastels, but we are a few days at least away from that.
As always constructive criticism is welcome. Remember though this is a start not the ending. The roughness is part of the process, at least for me.
This client specially requested no airbrushing except for clear coating.
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Smudge617
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That's looking pretty good already, can't wait to see how this progresses.
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