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Well, howdy there internet peeps and those who know what Alfred Nobel was famous for, before he got those awards named after him.

It's Troy again. I'm up, walked and showered.

While walking this morning, I was listening to the Dominion audiobook, and there was a chapter on Alfred Nobel, and how he helped with the minor details that was preventing or slowing the development of transcontinental railways.

And listening to the lead up to why he was instrumental, i had a brain fart that unlocked something troublesome in a book plot that I had shelved.

Whah-LA! and just like a TNT bang, the plot got unlocked, but will take some major restructuring. And I still have a book in front of that one in the writing queue.

I'm going to talk to ClaudeAI about this new plot restructuring. That's where I park all of my good ideas, and some of the brain farts.
Troy.......This question is not aimed at you in a "picking" sort of manner but moreover just a question in general about authors of books. If a person uses AI to help them in their story writing, do they give credit to AI as a sort of co-author in the credits/reference part of their book? Just curious.

I read a story about Alfred Nobel that after the time he had invented dynamite, there was an erroneous story printed in the local newspaper that Alfred Nobel had passed away. That day Alfred opened his newspaper to read, unbeknownst to him, that he had passed away. Curious what the obituary had to say, he read where he was referred to as murderer and an evil man for causing so many deaths because of his dynamite invention. He reported to the newspaper that he was indeed still alive. However after reading that he was an evil person in the paper, he set out to change that perception of himself by others. He vowed then to use his inventive talents towards only good things that benefitted people. He did not want to remembered as a evil person. Kind of food for thought on how any of us will be remembered.

Take care....John
 
It works best with writing tasks. For authors it's a gold standard.

I'm using the paid plan, which has more checks on accuracy. The problem with all AIs is the longer the chat thread goes, the more likely it is to give bad links.

And, Anthropic told the US Regime to go pound sand about creating AI super-weapons and surveillance tools.
Chat GPT the paid version is very good though I still am verifying information because I just don’t trust it. It will go off on tangents if I do not ask it a precise question. That is frustrating
 
Grass cut and yard trimmed. I was still half-soaked when I finished, but the dewpoint continues to fall here. Supposed to be 59°F tomorrow. Pick day of the week has been moved to tomorrow due to rain on Friday.

Temperature has been revised too. Now forecasting 78°F tomorrow instead of 82°F.

LUNCH!
 


Troy.......This question is not aimed at you in a "picking" sort of manner but moreover just a question in general about authors of books. If a person uses AI to help them in their story writing, do they give credit to AI as a sort of co-author in the credits/reference part of their book? Just curious.
that's the dilemma currently facing any creative endeavour.

It's a grey area, but getting through the courts. Let's take a look at a non-AI example.

When I was designing book covers using stock graphics from one of the stock photo sites, I was combining the graphics in ways the various artists had not set out to create. One book cover used an illustration (vector graphic - think "cartoon") of a woman in a business outfit. I found another graphic from the same artist with several different heads I could swap in, so I grabbed one and did the swap.

Then I found some gossamer butterfly/pixie wings. I altered the color of those, shrunk one and gave it a bit of a warp, because my character in the book had a gimpy wing. I then put those on the woman's back (as an underlay in photoshop). She also had a gimpy leg, so she used a cane for balance. Found a green and white striped candy cane vector, and added it. Found a good seaside vector graphic scene, added her (with wings and cane). Added the tubby grey cat. Added another vector of a pier silhouette. Added another vector graphic of an amusement park silhouette and set it atop the pier.

You know who was legally entitled to the copyright of that conglomeration? Me. I couldn't claim copyright of any individual piece, but I can claim copyright on the end result.

That's how courts are treating AI usage. Some European and Asian ones are granting copyright to even the person who prompts the AI for a single output. Others, like here in the US, seem to be heading toward (if not already there) that a derivitive work partially relying on work from AI can be copyrighted the human who put it all together.

Now, when I used AI to actually word the words in a book, this was right after my mother died in fall of 2024. I wasn't in the mood for any writing, but I needed to get back on the horse.

So I'd start a chapter and prompt the AI to generate words. They took a lot of editing. The more I had it write at once, the more it repeated itself. So I'd edit the AI words, turning it into my style, and that would get me going for at least double what it produced. 250 words become 750, and I heavily edited the AI's words. Then another 250 AI words, heavy editing, and continue my own words until I got stuck. rinse and repeat.

That was the only book I used AI to help write.

How do I credit the AI in that type of endeavor?

Right now, if a platform like Amazon asks if AI was used to generate words or artwork, I tell the truth on those forms. That was a "AI generated some words, heavily modified/expanded by the human" or whatever is closest to that.

I do use AI images in my book covers and marketing.

But, as for words generated by AI... only if I need a description that I can't quite get? What is the smell of a rowboat freshly pulled from an inland lake in the early fall? I don't need the sentence, just the descriptors. That sort of thing. Again, I'll heavily edit if I do have to turn to the machine to generate a description, or piece of dialogue.

For me, I use the AI as a girl/guy Friday. My own organizational skills and attention to detail can be very lacking. So I brainstorm and dump the puddles of good ideas into the AI. We converse about the book.

Today, I didn't feel like looking up what the character names for the book I was revising the plot on. I've written 1.5 books since I abandoned that work. I don't remember their names, and roles, and how I set up the bad guy's grand finale. Half that stuff would change while I write the book. But the AI remembers, and helps me fine tune my new ideas by asking questions, and forcing me to think through the plot and characters.

Again... how do I credit that? For the book I just brainstormed, I doubt that AI will write a single word.
 


Afternoon all!

What a beautiful day weather wise. Hit the forecasted 73F, and the slight breeze stayed with us all afternoon. It was great to open up
all the windows and let some fresh air in.

Laundry and other household tasks are done. Only thing left is to make dinner and clean that up. I took advantage of the nice cool
weather stretch and mowed the lawn even though it didn't really need it, but its going to get a few degrees warmer every day as the
week progresses.

I posted in the "I have a bad habit" thread about my messy layout, so tonight I will stage an Intermodal unit train to run around the
layout and maybe pick some things up since there is nothing sports related for my daughter tonight.

Enjoy the rest of your day everyone!
 
Took the grandson to the old house neighborhood so he could cut the 3 lawns he does there. While we were there the new owner of our old place came out and asked Brooks how much to cut. Brooks said $40.00 immediately which was $10 more than what we paid and $5 more than the immediate neighbor. He calmly explained it was a bigger property than next door and the houses he already cuts so needed to charge more. The new guy said he’ll think about it. He handle it very well and explained why he needed to charge more. Then he said to me later, besides I lost the house already so it doesn’t matter to me if they say no to my price. Pay it or not! I couldn’t disagree with that.

Based on how dry the lawns are he left text messages for the 3 people that he won’t be cutting until we get some rain unless they call him to do some trimming. He’s moved up in the business world, he now sends invoices by email and they pay using Venmo, no more cash!

I don’t remember it being this dry since we moved here in 2014 after I retired.

I will spend some time after dinner at the bench making birch trees.

Just a beautiful day that topped out at 73 at 2pm. A nice breeze and full sun
 
Ok i need to kick up shenanagigans first is pop or soda or coke.
Next it oil comes from decaying plants and animals and plastic is made of that oil does that mean plastic dinos cam from real dinos

And next what is the rul for lays out particularly ho i have to 2.5ft by 6ft tables that i have a loop and some sidings on should i glue straight down or should i do the whole foam thing
 
Ok i need to kick up shenanagigans first is pop or soda or coke.
Next it oil comes from decaying plants and animals and plastic is made of that oil does that mean plastic dinos cam from real dinos

And next what is the rul for lays out particularly ho i have to 2.5ft by 6ft tables that i have a loop and some sidings on should i glue straight down or should i do the whole foam thing
Tastes great, or less filling?
 
And next what is the rul for lays out particularly ho i have to 2.5ft by 6ft tables that i have a loop and some sidings on should i glue straight down or should i do the whole foam thing
What are you using for track?

If its unitrack, or EZ track I would just glue it down straight to the board. If its flex I would use cork roadbed. By gluing I mean use latex caulk. It
holds great until you ballast. Should you need to take it up, it peels right up with a putty knife.

I would only use foam if you want to carve some ditches or other depressions. That stuff has gotten crazy expensive over the last few years. for my yard I got a roll of cork from HD that is used for flooring underlayment.
 


What are you using for track?

If its unitrack, or EZ track I would just glue it down straight to the board. If its flex I would use cork roadbed. By gluing I mean use latex caulk. It
holds great until you ballast. Should you need to take it up, it peels right up with a putty knife.

I would only use foam if you want to carve some ditches or other depressions. That stuff has gotten crazy expensive over the last few years. for my yard I got a roll of cork from HD that is used for flooring underlayment.
Its kato unitrack
 
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