Running Bear's August 2026 Coffee Shop

[Marlin39]

It was interesting for sure. I’m averaging 132/84 which is within 2025 guidelines for my age 73 now 74 in 6 weeks. I’ll try

This is the new one from the Cleveland Clinic.

Age Group	Men (Average)	Women (Average)	Normal Range (Both)
18-29 years	119/70	110/68	Less than 120/80
30-39 years	122/74	114/71	Less than 120/80
40-49 years	125/76	118/74	Less than 120/80
50-59 years	129/78	122/76	Less than 120/80
60-64 years	132/79	126/77	Less than 120/80

Young adults in their twenties often have the lowest blood pressure readings they will experience in life. This is the ideal time to establish healthy habits that can prevent future hypertension. During your thirties and forties, the cumulative effects of diet, exercise habits, stress, and weight gain begin to show in blood pressure trends.

By age 50, the average blood pressure has risen noticeably from young adult levels, which is why screening becomes increasingly important. Women in their fifties often experience blood pressure increases related to menopause as estrogen levels drop.

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Blood pressure management in older adults requires special consideration. While the AHA guidelines still recommend keeping readings below 130/80 mm Hg, some medical professionals use slightly higher targets for frail elderly patients to avoid dizziness and falls from overly aggressive treatment.

Age Group	Men (Average)	Women (Average)	Target Range
65-74 years	134/76	130/77	Below 130/80 (or 140/90 if frail)
75-84 years	136/75	132/76	Individualized based on health
85+ years	138/74	134/75	Individualized based on health

 

[ctclibby]

This is the new one from the Cleveland Clinic.

Age Group	Men (Average)	Women (Average)	Normal Range (Both)
18-29 years	119/70	110/68	Less than 120/80
30-39 years	122/74	114/71	Less than 120/80
40-49 years	125/76	118/74	Less than 120/80
50-59 years	129/78	122/76	Less than 120/80
60-64 years	132/79	126/77	Less than 120/80

Young adults in their twenties often have the lowest blood pressure readings they will experience in life. This is the ideal time to establish healthy habits that can prevent future hypertension. During your thirties and forties, the cumulative effects of diet, exercise habits, stress, and weight gain begin to show in blood pressure trends.

By age 50, the average blood pressure has risen noticeably from young adult levels, which is why screening becomes increasingly important. Women in their fifties often experience blood pressure increases related to menopause as estrogen levels drop.

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Blood pressure management in older adults requires special consideration. While the AHA guidelines still recommend keeping readings below 130/80 mm Hg, some medical professionals use slightly higher targets for frail elderly patients to avoid dizziness and falls from overly aggressive treatment.

Age Group	Men (Average)	Women (Average)	Target Range
65-74 years	134/76	130/77	Below 130/80 (or 140/90 if frail)
75-84 years	136/75	132/76	Individualized based on health
85+ years	138/74	134/75	Individualized based on health

David: Boy not sure about the 'older adults' above. Both Maria and I are over 70 and *usually* 115->128/50->70. We do not get the recommended exercise every day either. Unless there is pain then it goes up dramatically.

L8r

 

[chadbag]

Because they want their buku-bucks to change oil at the dealer.

But the oil companies don’t make the “buku-bucks” when you take your car to the dealer. Oil is sold in bulk to dealers and most most VW dealers use bulk Castrol. So that doesn’t help the none name brand companies anyway.

At least around here the VW dealer oil change is not that much anyway.

 

[chadbag]

Scott Powell, founder and singer for the group Sha-Na-Na, is 78 today. After retiring from music in 1981 and returned to medical school, eventually becoming an orthopedic surgeon.

The question is, does he sing during surgery.

 

[chadbag]

It was interesting for sure. I’m averaging 132/84 which is within 2025 guidelines for my age 73 now 74 in 6 weeks. I’ll try

Try relaxing and meditation for 5 or more minutes before you measure. I find it hosnget rid of the “false” highs from things like physical exertions around the house and stuff you may have beeen doing. Lifting something or going up stairs or whatever.

 

[santafewillie]

I’m averaging 132/84 which is within 2025 guidelines for my age 73 now 74 in 6 weeks.

In my opinion, the guidelines are mostly a bunch of bunk. BP levels that were in the acceptable range 20 years ago, are now considered in the high range. The same is true for acceptable glucose levels, cholesterol numbers and several other measurable numbers. Why did the standards change? Because medical professionals and ratings committees are tied into the pharmaceutical industry which just wants to sell more unnecessary drugs. Who's sponsoring all of these studies??? Everyone is different and we all don't fit into the same box. About the only recommended standard that I haven't seen a change in is weight...and I am overweight even by my own reckoning. Thankfully, I am 30# less than when I retired, just 25# more to go before I feel comfortable.

 

[santafewillie]

The question is, does he sing during surgery.

Good question. During his 12 years with Sha-Na-Na, he sang most of the Elvis covers and provided backing vocals for all other songs. Many other band members went on to distinguished careers in other fields later in life.

 

[RhB Michael]

I'm at 157 as of today. I just finished all of the grass cutting and my heart rate is 84 now and slowing. I'm going to jump on the scale again before showing and see how much I lost in water and electrolytes.

I would be thrilled if I could get to 153. The same weight I was in the Air Force. I'll settle for 155 though and a 32" waist.

 

[RhB Michael]

Dropped an even pound in water weight. It'll be back up before the end of the night.

 

[Marlin39]

I met yesterday with my new doc who took over the practice for my recently retired doc of 23 years. It's a concierge program so I ended up spending an hour discussing family history, my history, my concerns, etc. It was basically a meet & greet. She's definitely as good as my previous doc.

We discussed my new non-statin regiment I started last month. I'm genetically cursed with familial cholesterol. I was off statins for a month because I finally, after about 7 years, had issues with Rosuvastatin. My total cholesterol went from 160- 280. One month later, on Nexletol, and it's back to 160. She said it was great (and more important) that my small particle LDL is low because that's what linked to plaque formation.

We also discussed my BP. She was surprised that, for my age (67), I'm only on 10mg of lisinopril. With the exception of thyroid and cholesterol meds that's everything I take. She said that I'm doing fine at 130/70. I monitor it at home every morning and she emphasized that my diastolic should never drops below 60. Apparently a diastolic number below 60 was associated with almost a 50% increased risk of death, heart attack, or stroke and almost a 75% increased risk of a nonfatal heart attack. I learned something new.

I'm very blessed to be in exceptional physical health. I wake up, at this point in time, with very little chronic and rarely any acute pain unless I overdid it the day before. I work out fairly hard every other day in the gym. Planet Fitness is free through my Part D provider.

I've been trying to eat a lot cleaner since March and I do feel a lot better. I cut out a lot of the sugar and bad carbs. I've dropped almost 15 pounds and I now weigh what I did as a freshman in high school (160). It took about 2 weeks to break the sugar addiction and I really don't miss it. I will still treat myself every once in a while to a little ice cream, dark chocolate, a (single/one only) beer maybe twice a week, a piece or 2 of pizza once a month and maybe a few street taco tortillas or organic sourdough bread. I just don't eat a lot of white stuff now (white flour, white sugar, potatoes, rice, etc), and try to avoid highly processed items, no fast food, no soda, etc. Portion size is important also. I don't eat 8-12 ounces of meat at a meal. It's 4-6 ounces now and a ton of fresh veggies. It's the old Calories in vs Calories out theory. I'm not denying myself anything if I want it I just have a little. This is what works for me and I'm not not knocking anybody else's eating habits or lifestyle. We're all still free (hopefully for a long time) to make our own choices.

We all have to die someday. I just hope I don't do something stupid like fall of a ladder.

 

[migalyto]

Dropped an even pound in water weight. It'll be back up before the end of the night.

You should have a piece of pie as a reward!

 

[Marlin39]

Hey Louis,
MLB Field of Dreams game is tonight!!!! 6::30 your time.

Phillies vs Twins

 

[RhB Michael]

Noooo. I've been deprived so long I'd probably eat half of it.

 

[Kusojiji]

all cigar and pipe smoke

What was the smoke threshold again? 3 ft from the ground? CPO club was like that. The smoke scrubbers that they installed all got plugged up after about the first 5 minutes.

 

[DeaconKC]

When I die, I want to just go quietly, peacefully in my sleep. Not with a bunch of crying and screaming like his passengers.

Anyway, it hit 104 here today, it is cooled off to 97 right now. Local Gas Chain [Circle K] has 40 cents off a gallon for the club mambers today, so we gassed up both vehicles. Gonna run in a bit to the store to get an ice cream cake for my NiL's birthday tomorrow, the party will be here after we take them to dinner. Got a cute little Lifelike N Scale SW9 switcher today, in the CB&Q Blackbird scheme. Gonna start loading up the first container for next week's train show, hopefully will come back with two empty containers!

 

[troyphoto]

Well, howdy there internet peeps, and those who never flew with Kenny Land.

It's Troy again.

Uneventful day.

Got pretzelfied at the Chiropractor. He was past the initial consult, so today was just adjustments to my hips and legs, with some spine work. I had to ask about stretches and exercises. He did take the time, and didn't make me feel rushed with that. But his confidence that I can do some of the stretches seems rather high...

Got a text from a friend and college roomie. He's coming up to near The Fort to potentially purchase a classic amplifier. Wanted to do lunch after that. So tomorrow is planned (along with laundry.

Wife wanted pasta tonight, so I got the calzone. Guess the leftovers are tomorrow's dinner.

On the Canadian front: acceptable documents are changing... slightly. Not everything has to be apostille now.

But, I've still got a black hole of a birth certificate for my Gen-zeros (the actual Canadian ancestors). Born around 1830 before The Crown required Upper Canada to record births. Even marriages were pretty loosely recorded - and relied on ministers to inform the area's crown clerk. Yeah... like that happened with the Mennonites/Amish.

And my 4th great grandmother was the daughter of an Amish-Mennonite bishop. But he died before she married. And, it was noted by a biographer, that she married a plain mennonite. Since the Amish Mennonites (which later changed to just "Amish") believed in stricter discipline on shunning those who left the faith, it's no wonder my she and my great, great, great grandfather had a bit of wanderlust. They lived in Missouri, Indiana, Arkansas, and he ended up in Oklahoma Territory after she died.

So, I have one Canadian document for each: the 1851 Upper Canada census. The agency reviewing the applications wants two Canadian documents for the "Gen Zero" ancestors. But, they're starting to recognize there is a black hole in the early to mid 1800s, especially around anabaptists sects like Mennonites.

Such a fun process. I'm waiting on some minister records from Waterloo to get digitzed and translated to see if we can find record of their marriage in the early 1850s. If so, then I have a second source (secondary, but it's Canadian and was the way marriages were recorded then...)

 

[chadbag]

The biggest thing to track is change. When something changes over time (for better or worse) it may mean you need to do something.

Such a fun process. I'm waiting on some minister records from Waterloo to get digitzed and translated to see if we can find record of their marriage in the early 1850s. If so, then I have a second source (secondary, but it's Canadian and was the way marriages were recorded then...)

I asume you've looked at the familysearch.org and ancestry.com and similar services? See if your line shows up at all? That can help link and often provide additional documents. Lots of busy beavers out there updating and uploading docs.

 

[Kusojiji]

The deluge has stopped for now. Chiba, which is across the bay from us, got 367 mm/14.5 inches of rain yesterday - a record. We got a little bit over 3 inches. I'm thinking the bean seeds that I planted yesterday all drowned, so will check on them later.

It's guessed that we will be getting more rain this week, but who knows. I bet the massive rain took them by surprise by the way they've been wrong so far. 4 people died from the floods. A grandpa and grandma had to get cut out of their car, but didn't make it anyway. One guy got washed out to sea.

As far as health trends go, it's all up to youtube, tik tok or AI anyway? Butter vs margarine, eggs good or not, size 12 the new size 2, crisco the creation of the devil, blah blah, yadda yadda.

 

[westtexjohn]

Good afternoon all..........

I agree with Willie on health standards. The results reflect what the pharmaceutical companies that sponsor the study want them to be.

I bought a "soft start" module for my A/C condenser unit. I should have done this several months ago but I guess better late than never.

I also purchased 3 Stewart powered FTB units for some AB and ABBA diesel sets I have. One unit arrived today.

Bought a 5 cup coffee maker that arrived today and ordered a DeWalt portable vacuum for the train room that was supposed to be here 2 days ago, but is now arriving tomorrow. Better late than never I guess.

Still working on putting in my turnout servos and control panels. Making some headway but it is slow and tedious. I have 8 more assemblies to install to finish the upper level. I had to stop and make up some more servo/bracket units with the lever switch attached so installations can resume......maybe this evening.

Lots to do and I'm always tired.

Take care.....John

PS... Forum seems to be working ok today. A pleasant surprise.

 

[troyphoto]

The biggest thing to track is change. When something changes over time (for better or worse) it may mean you need to do something.

I asume you've looked at the familysearch.org and ancestry.com and similar services? See if your line shows up at all? That can help link and often provide additional documents. Lots of busy beavers out there updating and uploading docs.

Yep. Both Family Search and Ancestry.
Going down a lot of rabbit holes. But I'm finding tidbits in unusual locations.
I was focussed on my Bechtel surname, and it wasn't until I did a dive in the wife of my Gen 0 gramps that I realized what a treasure I have.

I need to track down the Bishop's family bible. The biographer said that she was able to see images of the family lineage pages in it, and that's how she tracked the birthdates. While technically not a church record, it is the Bible and writing of a Bishop of the local church... That might be a stretch, but we're in a black hole.

I've gone through the indexes for the compiled and reprinted collections of officially reported marriage from that time frame and that broad area. No hits on either name (and variations of both first and surnames).

The Mennonites really were non-comformists. They don't have strong presence in the official records, despite having large communities in those areas.

That's probably where I get my non-conformist streak.