Running Bear's August 2026 Coffee Shop
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Todd,
The winds have shifted here in the valley. The East wind is bringing in the smoke (getting thick) and the next 2 days are supposed to be in the high 90's.
We lived in a Wilderness Wildfire Zone for 4 years. I know what it's like to be ready to evac. High desert brush and grass fires are a whole different animal from the forest timber fires we had.
You guys stay safe.
(I spent 5 months in 1987 in Landshut, Lower Bavaria, and 1991-1993 I spent 18 months just outside of Landshut and worked in Munich).
But Michael is right. If you've learned High German in school, and basically heard standard High German in your studies, when you first listen to Bavarian, or Schwäbisch (SW German) inspired German you'd be lost. Until you learn the trick I mention above. Listen for the "root word" in each sentence. Words that only exist in those dialects you probably won't be able to know / guess it. Most people don't speak pure dialect, but rather speak some form of "standard German" with their local accent and local dialectal words. I eventually was able to learn to do a reasonably good job of understanding Schwäbisch or related in Stuttgart or Bavarian in Bavaria.
For example. "Ganga mah" is the same s "Gehen wir". ("Let's go") In the south "wir" tends to be pronounced "mir" or "miah". (kind of like a Boston version). The past tense of "gehen" is gang. Ich gang zur Bibliothek gestern. (I went to the library yesterday). But basically "gang" is a root of "gehen". So you hear "gang" and you know they are talking about gehen or "to go". There are a lot of other examples where you can suss out what is being said using the rule "listen for the root".
I got pretty good at listening to and understanding it.
There are a lot of fun videos on YT where someone travels around Germany and asks people to say certain sentences. Or asks them certain questions. And you get the whole range of German dialectal pronunciations.
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chadbag
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I don’t know how the Swiss say it but the CH ending in German is more a fricative (I think that’s what it’s called). Make the same mouth shape as your hard K sound but don’t make the K in the back of your throat. Kind of blow air across your tongue like you want to say “Shhh” but keep your mouth in the hard K shape. The sound is from blowing air out your mouth.
DeaconKC
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Good morning folks, Troy, Patrick and Karl, praying for you both! Marco, what is your cat's name?
82 here right now, G'niece Emma on her way over, I'm taking us to lunch and then she will be hanging out with my Missus [who is her Prime Confidant]. I am especially blessed by God with this lady, she is one of those really rare people, who everyone falls in love with. Me? People tolerate me to be around her. Got to get some hummingbird water today as the feeder is almost empty. Got work done on some vehicles and another building last night, module population, but wow, I have about twenty milk cans painted, now have to figure out how to glue them together without gluing myself to them! Found an old full length passenger observation car last nigh, so I am using it to make sure my buildings on the module have enough clearance for any long cars on the corner module.
You guys have a good day.
82 here right now, G'niece Emma on her way over, I'm taking us to lunch and then she will be hanging out with my Missus [who is her Prime Confidant]. I am especially blessed by God with this lady, she is one of those really rare people, who everyone falls in love with. Me? People tolerate me to be around her. Got to get some hummingbird water today as the feeder is almost empty. Got work done on some vehicles and another building last night, module population, but wow, I have about twenty milk cans painted, now have to figure out how to glue them together without gluing myself to them! Found an old full length passenger observation car last nigh, so I am using it to make sure my buildings on the module have enough clearance for any long cars on the corner module.
You guys have a good day.
chadbag
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And also the ü is not a plain “u”. Say “A” (long a) but make your lips like a long U sound. More or less. And at least in high German Z is a “ts” sound at the beginning of a word, similar to Japanese tsu but without the vowel sound.
So in High German I would say something like
Ts-ü-ree-ch. Where the CH is what I described above.
So in High German I would say something like
Ts-ü-ree-ch. Where the CH is what I described above.
RhB Michael
RhB Lokführer
All sorts of rules to remember in German. Most are second nature to me now, but I have heard German speakers pronounce a word more than one way. Depends on where you are.
If you really want to hear some strange German, listen to someone speaking Bavarian. Most Germans from elsewhere can't understand a word they say.
If you really want to hear some strange German, listen to someone speaking Bavarian. Most Germans from elsewhere can't understand a word they say.
montanan
Whiskey Merchant
Good morning - Tried posting yesterday and I see that I am not the only one that the computer Murphy visited. It really got frustrating.
As Todd mentioned, the smoke isn't as bad as it was yesterday. My neighbor's niece who lives in Spokane lost everything. They are fortunate thought because everyone evacuated and is safe. Locally, we have the "Skillet Fire" that had grown to 2,500 acres and is 0% contained as of now.
This fire is about 65 miles northeast of Libby, but is being fed by downed trees.
Willie - Nice work on that warehouse. Adding figures makes a scene so much better. I had wondered where that wrecker had gone. It was too modern for 1957, the period I modeled.
There was no NASCAR race yesterday so the shelf scene had trees added. It was a bit more difficult because the vaccuum broom I have sucks, but not hard enough. Trrying to get the ground foam was off was a pain in the butt.
I will add a few pieces of clump foliage on the left side along the mirror to make it less obvious.
I still have to add gravel for the driveway and parking areas for the homes along with the space between the tracks and the road. I will do that whenever the guard rails arrive. Still have a few more details such as figures as I mentioned.
Have a few spots left for some archive photos.
This geep was my first attempt at a paint scheme for the Logan Valley. Atlas hadn't released their Kato drive Also RS units. It worked.
This is where Tschache Oil was on my old layout.
This is a box car I picked up in New England that they were selling as a fund raiser. Had to weather it. No choice.
Just got a phone call from the repair shop letting me know that my car is ready and they'll pick me up soon. I really hated to have to bring the car to a shop. When I was visiting my son in Helena over the 4th of July we were going to do it there but none of the parts stores had parts we needed and said they could get them in Monday or Tuesday. That wasn't going to work as I was leaving the 5th. I had noticed some pulsating from the brakes coming down Rogers Pass into Helena and I would assume that they could have been the original brakes.
Gotta run, LATER
As Todd mentioned, the smoke isn't as bad as it was yesterday. My neighbor's niece who lives in Spokane lost everything. They are fortunate thought because everyone evacuated and is safe. Locally, we have the "Skillet Fire" that had grown to 2,500 acres and is 0% contained as of now.
This fire is about 65 miles northeast of Libby, but is being fed by downed trees.
Willie - Nice work on that warehouse. Adding figures makes a scene so much better. I had wondered where that wrecker had gone. It was too modern for 1957, the period I modeled.
There was no NASCAR race yesterday so the shelf scene had trees added. It was a bit more difficult because the vaccuum broom I have sucks, but not hard enough. Trrying to get the ground foam was off was a pain in the butt.
I will add a few pieces of clump foliage on the left side along the mirror to make it less obvious.
I still have to add gravel for the driveway and parking areas for the homes along with the space between the tracks and the road. I will do that whenever the guard rails arrive. Still have a few more details such as figures as I mentioned.
Have a few spots left for some archive photos.
This geep was my first attempt at a paint scheme for the Logan Valley. Atlas hadn't released their Kato drive Also RS units. It worked.
This is where Tschache Oil was on my old layout.
This is a box car I picked up in New England that they were selling as a fund raiser. Had to weather it. No choice.
Just got a phone call from the repair shop letting me know that my car is ready and they'll pick me up soon. I really hated to have to bring the car to a shop. When I was visiting my son in Helena over the 4th of July we were going to do it there but none of the parts stores had parts we needed and said they could get them in Monday or Tuesday. That wasn't going to work as I was leaving the 5th. I had noticed some pulsating from the brakes coming down Rogers Pass into Helena and I would assume that they could have been the original brakes.
Gotta run, LATER
PNKFLOYD
Mikey
Whew! I feel a nap coming on.
I trailered my riding mower up to the lake to trim the weeds. There is some grass in there somewhere but it has been 5 weeks since I cut it last. It was 74 degrees F and cloudy today, so I was fine cutting the grass. Where I got in trouble was trimming several trees to avoid the tree limbs slapping me in the face. Dragging the trimmed limbs over to the burn pile was uphill both ways and I broke a sweat.
By the time I loaded and secured the mower on the trailer, I had to sit in the truck for a few minutes to recuperate. The temp was 78 degrees on the way back and the open window helped cool me down. (No A/C in my '89 pickup.)
I got home, unloaded the mower and stored it in the basement.
I turn 81 tomorrow, so I got a 5 minute reminder about taking it easy and acting my age. Yes, mam!
That nap is getting more attention now.
I trailered my riding mower up to the lake to trim the weeds. There is some grass in there somewhere but it has been 5 weeks since I cut it last. It was 74 degrees F and cloudy today, so I was fine cutting the grass. Where I got in trouble was trimming several trees to avoid the tree limbs slapping me in the face. Dragging the trimmed limbs over to the burn pile was uphill both ways and I broke a sweat.
By the time I loaded and secured the mower on the trailer, I had to sit in the truck for a few minutes to recuperate. The temp was 78 degrees on the way back and the open window helped cool me down. (No A/C in my '89 pickup.)
I got home, unloaded the mower and stored it in the basement.
I turn 81 tomorrow, so I got a 5 minute reminder about taking it easy and acting my age. Yes, mam!
That nap is getting more attention now.
RhB Michael
RhB Lokführer
Happy birthday, early! Just in case no one can post tomorrow.
santafewillie
Same Ol' Buzzard
Happy Birthday Mikey.
Early Happy B'day Mikey. It's a good sign that you're still super active. Congrats!
Todd,
The winds have shifted here in the valley. The East wind is bringing in the smoke (getting thick) and the next 2 days are supposed to be in the high 90's.
We lived in a Wilderness Wildfire Zone for 4 years. I know what it's like to be ready to evac. High desert brush and grass fires are a whole different animal from the forest timber fires we had.
You guys stay safe.
migalyto
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boogietrain94
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Brutte did you see your Os traded that rutchsman dude to that red sox team[boo)
Texas Hobo
Well Known Hobo
Good afternoon to each and everyone of you. Another 100 degree day, so we are staying indoors.
I got one of these for Christmas. It runs so well I decided to get another.
Mikey - Happy Birthday.
STAY SAFE
LATER
I got one of these for Christmas. It runs so well I decided to get another.
Mikey - Happy Birthday.
STAY SAFE
LATER
Kusojiji
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I found a video that sounded like (Ju rif), which could lead to the reason why the Japanese say it the way they do. Once thing that I have to remember is that the Japanese don't always use English pronunciation for all words.
chadbag
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Except for Bavarian-specific words, Bavarian inspired German is not "hard" to understand, eventually. Just recognize the root words (in some form) and you can get the gist of it.
(I spent 5 months in 1987 in Landshut, Lower Bavaria, and 1991-1993 I spent 18 months just outside of Landshut and worked in Munich).
But Michael is right. If you've learned High German in school, and basically heard standard High German in your studies, when you first listen to Bavarian, or Schwäbisch (SW German) inspired German you'd be lost. Until you learn the trick I mention above. Listen for the "root word" in each sentence. Words that only exist in those dialects you probably won't be able to know / guess it. Most people don't speak pure dialect, but rather speak some form of "standard German" with their local accent and local dialectal words. I eventually was able to learn to do a reasonably good job of understanding Schwäbisch or related in Stuttgart or Bavarian in Bavaria.
For example. "Ganga mah" is the same s "Gehen wir". ("Let's go") In the south "wir" tends to be pronounced "mir" or "miah". (kind of like a Boston version). The past tense of "gehen" is gang. Ich gang zur Bibliothek gestern. (I went to the library yesterday). But basically "gang" is a root of "gehen". So you hear "gang" and you know they are talking about gehen or "to go". There are a lot of other examples where you can suss out what is being said using the rule "listen for the root".
I got pretty good at listening to and understanding it.
There are a lot of fun videos on YT where someone travels around Germany and asks people to say certain sentences. Or asks them certain questions. And you get the whole range of German dialectal pronunciations.
Kusojiji
RANK AMATEURS OF THE MODEL RAILROAD FORM MEMBER
Happy B-day!
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