Running Bear's April 2019 Coffee Shop
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Are some of those still running, or were they scrapped as well?
To me The most popular of the modern diesels is the AC4400 yet manufactures seem to shy away from making them.
Ray: NS obtained the Altoona Works with their portion of Conrail. Altoona was assembling locomotives, (SD60/Sd70), under contract for EMD during Conrail, and Conrail was a extensive rebuilder. NS was always an innovator in implementing new technology, so it stands to reason that the NS would exploit these assets to their advantage.
boris
Got to watch what I'm eating, got to get the Cholesterol under control...diner / coffee shop / lunch truck food, just doesn't help, so it's coffee to go!
Boris
After ST does a couple of Dash 9 runs, We hopefully will see them.
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I see Athearn has announced a new Genesis Loco in an Australian road, albeit a mining only line. FMG. (Fortescue Metals Group) The model is part of the their new SD90MAC H2 type offerings.
migalyto
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Are some of those still running, or were they scrapped as well?
According to a Wikipedia page on Fortescue railways, it said in Oct 2014, Seven rebuilt Union Pacific Railroad EMD SD90MAC-Hs Phase IIs were in transit from the United States. I haven't found as yet any info that they are not still operating. BHP replaced it's GE AC6000 locos some time ago for EMD SD 70ACe LC (low clearance) locos on lease. That lease is now ended and the engines have been returned, or are being returned. MRL bought 4 of them, numbered 4316-4319, now in service.
Just what the LC involved I haven't been able to find out, maybe lowered springs and adjustable coilovers and a roof chop, but there are a few detail differences with the other ACe's in that number range.
Just what the LC involved I haven't been able to find out, maybe lowered springs and adjustable coilovers and a roof chop, but there are a few detail differences with the other ACe's in that number range.
CambriaArea51
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Good morning.....As for the 90 MAC I don't no why the 80 MAC 5,000 hp never caught on.Conrail and now NS never seemed to have problems with them.NS got the few CSX had from the split.
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NP2626
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Yes, Good Morning! My wife and I have started tearing the kitchen apart in preparation for our new kitchen cabinets which are scheduled to arrive next Friday. I'm sure this will be one of those projects where you get so far into it and determine that other modifications will be needed. That's why we are having a carpenter friend help us out. We've already spent a pile of money, far more than I have ever spent on my layout; but, hey, it's for peace between the two of us! So, cost isn't really the object of the process!
Weather: Yes we have some! We're in the middle of our above freezing jaunt through this week. It's supposed to rain some tomorrow, almost two tenths and it will dip back down below freezing on Tuesday at midnight. Cloudy through-out; but, Sunny Monday.
I guess we no longer eat here in the in the Club Car/Dinner. So, Flo keep the coffee coming!
P.S. You guys talking about your modern diesels completely loose me. My eyes glaze over and my mind goes numb. Don't know a 90 MAC from an 80 MAC!
Weather: Yes we have some! We're in the middle of our above freezing jaunt through this week. It's supposed to rain some tomorrow, almost two tenths and it will dip back down below freezing on Tuesday at midnight. Cloudy through-out; but, Sunny Monday.
I guess we no longer eat here in the in the Club Car/Dinner. So, Flo keep the coffee coming!
P.S. You guys talking about your modern diesels completely loose me. My eyes glaze over and my mind goes numb. Don't know a 90 MAC from an 80 MAC!
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There's an interesting story there. When CSX and NS took over Conrail, NS had effectively zero AC locomotives, and CSX had been grabbing them like TicTacs. Now, 20 years later, NS is getting as many AC units as it can get its hands on, while CSX is rebuilding old SD40s. NS is also rebuilding older, DC powered units into AC units.
CambriaArea51
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The SD40-2's are bulletproof and don't cost much to rebuild as a new Tier 4 loco.CSx seems to use the AC units for coal and intermodal (heavy stuff) and DC for others.Both CSX and NS from what I see in videos also mix them too.
To me The most popular of the modern diesels is the AC4400 yet manufactures seem to shy away from making them.
NS seems to have led the charge as far as in house rebuilding of earlier models and upgrading them in the process.
Boris
Beach Bum
Good morning y'all! 42° and foggy.
Tom, Terry and Mark:
The 80 MACs were a departure from Conrail's traditional fleet. They spent a ton of money, on training, and sent each engineer a VHS video and manual directly to our homes. Yet, I only saw the once, at Metuchen, and I went over to the pit to familiarize myself with their features, including a power hand brake, and other long forgotten "improvements" compared to other power. This was, maybe, twenty to twenty-five years ago. Many, ended up in Washington, DC, hauling coal received off the Chessie (B&O), at Benning, and destined for the PEPCO power generating plants on the Popes Creek and Herbert secondary tracks. I don't recall any real problems with them, other than they were kept together, and used in specific services.
When the Railroad was divided up, the 80 MACs were also divided between the two succeeding carriers. At the time, CSX was more excited about their share, but over time, attitudes changed, as Terry pointed out. Keep in mind that the SD40, and SD40-2 were the most reliable and versitile locomotive ever built. it's not surprising that these work horses are still around and are being rebuilt yet another time.
FWIW,neither the 80 MAC or 90 MAC are new technology, I left Conrail for Amtrak in '98, and the 80 Macks were already around long enough to not be considered new. I retired in '08 and that's eleven years ago so they have been around a long time.
Have a great weekend.
boris
Tom, Terry and Mark:
The 80 MACs were a departure from Conrail's traditional fleet. They spent a ton of money, on training, and sent each engineer a VHS video and manual directly to our homes. Yet, I only saw the once, at Metuchen, and I went over to the pit to familiarize myself with their features, including a power hand brake, and other long forgotten "improvements" compared to other power. This was, maybe, twenty to twenty-five years ago. Many, ended up in Washington, DC, hauling coal received off the Chessie (B&O), at Benning, and destined for the PEPCO power generating plants on the Popes Creek and Herbert secondary tracks. I don't recall any real problems with them, other than they were kept together, and used in specific services.
When the Railroad was divided up, the 80 MACs were also divided between the two succeeding carriers. At the time, CSX was more excited about their share, but over time, attitudes changed, as Terry pointed out. Keep in mind that the SD40, and SD40-2 were the most reliable and versitile locomotive ever built. it's not surprising that these work horses are still around and are being rebuilt yet another time.
FWIW,neither the 80 MAC or 90 MAC are new technology, I left Conrail for Amtrak in '98, and the 80 Macks were already around long enough to not be considered new. I retired in '08 and that's eleven years ago so they have been around a long time.
Have a great weekend.
boris
Boris
Beach Bum
Ray: NS obtained the Altoona Works with their portion of Conrail. Altoona was assembling locomotives, (SD60/Sd70), under contract for EMD during Conrail, and Conrail was a extensive rebuilder. NS was always an innovator in implementing new technology, so it stands to reason that the NS would exploit these assets to their advantage.
boris
Boris
Beach Bum
Got to watch what I'm eating, got to get the Cholesterol under control...diner / coffee shop / lunch truck food, just doesn't help, so it's coffee to go!
Boris
migalyto
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After ST does a couple of Dash 9 runs, We hopefully will see them.
santafewillie
Same Ol' Buzzard
Good Morning All. Currently 63° and foggy, thunderstorms are in the forecast for just after noon, right now they're about 150 miles west and coming in this direction. Wonder if they'll make it? OK though, as it gives me a little time this morning to set out the remainder of my tomato plants in the garden.
Thanks for the comments and likes on the pictures yesterday, Joe, Justin, Dave, Garry, Phil, Tom, Johnny, and anyone else who I inadvertently missed.
Out in the train shed, I continued to add weeds and a little bit of ground foam to the area that I am currently working on. Still pondering placement of the background pictures, here's a shot of a couple more that I cut out.
Here's a different angle on the dog food plant.
Once the positioning is finalized, I will fill in with driveways and scenery on the backdrop, and trees on the layout itself to help blend things in.
Here's an attempt at standing water between two tracks. This is my first try at something like this, not too sure if it works for me, yet. Any suggestions?
Joe -
Curt - I can see the bumper now that you have weathered everything.
Garry - I wanted to comment on something that you posted, but I forgot what it was.
Meanwhile, how is Shelly's mom?
Chuck - I like all of the photos & videos of the Irish trains.
Mark -
Today is New Beers Eve. It marks the end of the countdown to end Prohibition, which ended 86 years ago on April 7, 1933. So grab a beer and toast to your ability to drink it! We'll celebrate again tomorrow.
Everybody have an awesome Saturday.
Thanks for the comments and likes on the pictures yesterday, Joe, Justin, Dave, Garry, Phil, Tom, Johnny, and anyone else who I inadvertently missed.
Out in the train shed, I continued to add weeds and a little bit of ground foam to the area that I am currently working on. Still pondering placement of the background pictures, here's a shot of a couple more that I cut out.
Here's a different angle on the dog food plant.
Once the positioning is finalized, I will fill in with driveways and scenery on the backdrop, and trees on the layout itself to help blend things in.
Here's an attempt at standing water between two tracks. This is my first try at something like this, not too sure if it works for me, yet. Any suggestions?
Joe -
It took me a while to figure out the best way to utilize the 2D background structures. Most work best when I scale them down a bit.
Curt - I can see the bumper now that you have weathered everything.
Garry - I wanted to comment on something that you posted, but I forgot what it was.
Meanwhile, how is Shelly's mom?Chuck - I like all of the photos & videos of the Irish trains.
Mark -
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Today is New Beers Eve. It marks the end of the countdown to end Prohibition, which ended 86 years ago on April 7, 1933. So grab a beer and toast to your ability to drink it! We'll celebrate again tomorrow.
Everybody have an awesome Saturday.
montanan
Whiskey Merchant
Good morning. 38 degrees and light rain to start off the day. The rain is helping get rid of the snow banks.
Choochoo - Like the videos and photos. Thanks for the post. We should get your proper name.
Garry - Like your photo as usual. That stock car is sweet.
Dave - Again a nice photo. Where was this on your layout?
Curt - the weathering on the coal dock really brings the scene together.
Willie - I also enjoyed your photos. With the size of your layout, you'll probably never run out of things to photograph.
Sherrel - So far as recovery goes, I am hoping for a little over 2 months to get close to normal. I have no idea how this will effect my bowling. I'll have to wait and see. Now that the swelling is slowly going down, I did reach one milestone. I was able to drink a beer with my right hand for the first time in over 6 months.
Got a phone call from one of the guys at the club last night wanting to know if I'll be able to help run the club layout during the upcoming train show in the main depot at the end of the month. There aren't many regular members, 6 including myself. One will be over in the main depot manning a table with some of the items the club has for sale and members also have for sale and that leaves us short handed. I told him that I would be there. Time to try out my new F-7's and SD-9.
Willie - here are a few close ups of some "mini scenes".
Here are a few hobos.
Here a famliy is enjoying a warm afternoon on the back porch. A young man in his hot rod pickup is coming over to pick up his girl friend.
Here is a local mechanics shop.
Later
Choochoo - Like the videos and photos. Thanks for the post. We should get your proper name.
Garry - Like your photo as usual. That stock car is sweet.
Dave - Again a nice photo. Where was this on your layout?
Curt - the weathering on the coal dock really brings the scene together.
Willie - I also enjoyed your photos. With the size of your layout, you'll probably never run out of things to photograph.
Sherrel - So far as recovery goes, I am hoping for a little over 2 months to get close to normal. I have no idea how this will effect my bowling. I'll have to wait and see. Now that the swelling is slowly going down, I did reach one milestone. I was able to drink a beer with my right hand for the first time in over 6 months.
Got a phone call from one of the guys at the club last night wanting to know if I'll be able to help run the club layout during the upcoming train show in the main depot at the end of the month. There aren't many regular members, 6 including myself. One will be over in the main depot manning a table with some of the items the club has for sale and members also have for sale and that leaves us short handed. I told him that I would be there. Time to try out my new F-7's and SD-9.
Willie - here are a few close ups of some "mini scenes".
Here are a few hobos.
Here a famliy is enjoying a warm afternoon on the back porch. A young man in his hot rod pickup is coming over to pick up his girl friend.
Here is a local mechanics shop.
Later
santafewillie
Same Ol' Buzzard
I believe that it's Chuck.
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Greg@mnrr
Section Hand
Good Morning Everyone...........overcast so far this morning and it should get into the low 60's away from the lake.
My plans for today so far have been changed. This morning I did the cuttings from the old Jade plant and will start some in water and three cuttings in potting soil. I already have one plant started from a leaf that had fallen from the plant and fell on the top of the potting soil and grew small leaves and roots. He may be the keeper out of all the cuttings. A tiny plant right now.
Taxes are done and the heavy duty envelopes are addressed for the IRS.
Willie: Just a thought about installing the background buildings in a continuous series rather than singe buildings spaced apart? Just a suggestion.
A poor image, but....
Yesterday, before dinner I started reading my book on ore traffic in Northern Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota. Many roads pull either ore or Taconite and they included the Milwaukee, SOO, C&NW, DM&IR and the LS & I. Some good photographs of ore cars. Maybe tomorrow I'll drive over to Sussex, Wisconsin where they load lime stone for the iron plants in Indiana.
This photograph is a picture of what was called Government Hill, near Sussex, Wisconsin and several miles from my home and the gravel was used to construct the right of way for what is now Union Pacific main line and once C&NW. I used to watch the C&NW trains while I worked a short distance from the right of way. The gravel hill is now gone and completely mined out for construction projects. In the 60's I hunted deer and small game on the top of the hill which was wooded with open areas.
Here's a interesting website of the area from where I copied the photo about the early construction of the C&NW right of way. Good reading for you steam guys since it is in your era.
http://slahs.org/museum/history.htm
Chet: Nice photographs of the individual scenes. Great video about the railroading in Montana.
That's all for now.
Greg
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A part of the industrial area od Saxeville. -Greg
My plans for today so far have been changed. This morning I did the cuttings from the old Jade plant and will start some in water and three cuttings in potting soil. I already have one plant started from a leaf that had fallen from the plant and fell on the top of the potting soil and grew small leaves and roots. He may be the keeper out of all the cuttings. A tiny plant right now.
Taxes are done and the heavy duty envelopes are addressed for the IRS.
Willie: Just a thought about installing the background buildings in a continuous series rather than singe buildings spaced apart? Just a suggestion.
A poor image, but....
Yesterday, before dinner I started reading my book on ore traffic in Northern Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota. Many roads pull either ore or Taconite and they included the Milwaukee, SOO, C&NW, DM&IR and the LS & I. Some good photographs of ore cars. Maybe tomorrow I'll drive over to Sussex, Wisconsin where they load lime stone for the iron plants in Indiana.
This photograph is a picture of what was called Government Hill, near Sussex, Wisconsin and several miles from my home and the gravel was used to construct the right of way for what is now Union Pacific main line and once C&NW. I used to watch the C&NW trains while I worked a short distance from the right of way. The gravel hill is now gone and completely mined out for construction projects. In the 60's I hunted deer and small game on the top of the hill which was wooded with open areas.
Here's a interesting website of the area from where I copied the photo about the early construction of the C&NW right of way. Good reading for you steam guys since it is in your era.
http://slahs.org/museum/history.htm
Chet: Nice photographs of the individual scenes. Great video about the railroading in Montana.
That's all for now.
Greg
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A part of the industrial area od Saxeville. -Greg
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santafewillie
Same Ol' Buzzard
Greg - Thanks for the suggestion, I have done that in other areas. In this case I am trying to represent industries on the outskirts of a medium-sized town that is representative of what I see in this part of the world; and is common around Santa Fe routes through the mostly farmlands of the plains states. I am actually looking at filling in some of the space with DPM modular walls to add some depth but I haven't gotten to that point yet. I don't always have a specific plan, but I have a general one that I "ad-lib" through!
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