HOexplorer
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Announcement: PCM&T Southern Division will begin tomorrow, Oct. 1st. Jim
Building the Pinnacle Creek Mining & Timber Co. RR
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Are you going to tell us the scale you are planning to use .. Soes I can cut you some lumber?
We never get tired of cliff hangers !!!!!
Mike
Seconded!! But I guess after hanging around on cliffs 5000' up the sides of mountains in his previous life, you would get a little tired of them.
And this time we will have video (hopefully)
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Sirfoldalot
Days Gone Bye!
Announcement: PCM&T Southern Division will begin tomorrow, Oct. 1st. Jim
Are you going to tell us the scale you are planning to use .. Soes I can cut you some lumber?
HOexplorer
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Sherrel, Primarily HO. If O is 48 and HO 87, I'm thinking that running any On30 on the Southern Division would probably mean I need pretty close to 65. I have not done any conversions at this time for how big a 1/4" piece of timber would measure to. Actually the math is beyond me. Jim 
Sirfoldalot
Days Gone Bye!
Jim, and all.
Here is a really neat calculator for quick conversions.
It has most every scale imagined.
http://www.printmini.com/calc.html
Here is a really neat calculator for quick conversions.
It has most every scale imagined.
http://www.printmini.com/calc.html
HOexplorer
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The PCM&T Co. Southern Division thread: Welcome new folks to the site and certainly to the 'regulars' and the silent majority of over 150,000 viewers. I'm hoping you will enjoy the Southern Division as much as you did the PCM&T build thread.
This time around the terrain will be a cross between Southern Colorado and the Four Corners area. Not decided is what the 'desert' type area will actually look like. The main reason is that I have never modeled in Sculptamold before. It seems to be a paper mache` type of material that is mixed with water and applied. It is light weight, fairly strong and can be carved wet or dry. Sounds interesting so I will give it a try. We will all learn about Sculptamold as we go along.
Here is the plan:
It is the same as posted earlier. You can see that it is a 'runner' layout and I may go so far as to say that it will hopefully be a suitable prop for my photography. I do enjoy simply watching a loco pull cars around a layout, but I'm not a real train fanatic by any stretch of the imagination. In fact one fellow said the fact that I'm NOT a train nut is the main reason why he looks in a couple of times a week! I'm guessing he lacks scenery skills and has ample 'train' brains that I don't have so I'm no threat. Just guessing here.
I'm trying very hard to make all the curves on the mainline no less that 22" radius. I would like to get a Consolidation to run freight and it would look better with 22r than with a more doable 18"r. If this 22" radius will fit I will be most excited. It will make the layout bigger and of course will probably make it necessary to build 'back to front' again. Jim
This time around the terrain will be a cross between Southern Colorado and the Four Corners area. Not decided is what the 'desert' type area will actually look like. The main reason is that I have never modeled in Sculptamold before. It seems to be a paper mache` type of material that is mixed with water and applied. It is light weight, fairly strong and can be carved wet or dry. Sounds interesting so I will give it a try. We will all learn about Sculptamold as we go along.
Here is the plan:
It is the same as posted earlier. You can see that it is a 'runner' layout and I may go so far as to say that it will hopefully be a suitable prop for my photography. I do enjoy simply watching a loco pull cars around a layout, but I'm not a real train fanatic by any stretch of the imagination. In fact one fellow said the fact that I'm NOT a train nut is the main reason why he looks in a couple of times a week! I'm guessing he lacks scenery skills and has ample 'train' brains that I don't have so I'm no threat. Just guessing here.
I'm trying very hard to make all the curves on the mainline no less that 22" radius. I would like to get a Consolidation to run freight and it would look better with 22r than with a more doable 18"r. If this 22" radius will fit I will be most excited. It will make the layout bigger and of course will probably make it necessary to build 'back to front' again. Jim
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A couple of your "cliffhanger" trusses might do the trick to gain extra radius.
HOexplorer
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Thanks Mike, this is the easy part.
toot, I thought everyone would be as tired of the 'cliffhangers' as I am? I've had one or more on my last three layouts! Jim
toot, I thought everyone would be as tired of the 'cliffhangers' as I am? I've had one or more on my last three layouts! Jim
Fifer
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Thanks Mike, this is the easy part.
toot, I thought everyone would be as tired of the 'cliffhangers' as I am? I've had one or more on my last three layouts! Jim
We never get tired of cliff hangers !!!!!
Mike
HOexplorer
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Stoker, I actually had a bumper sticker that said, "I shot JR" that summer.
Anyway, back to business. While most of us are worrying about building our layouts some, me, are worried about tearing one down and replacing it. Tearing a layout down can be an emotional process. I caution you all to be as dispassionate as possible. Best of all worlds is to view the tearing down as a logical and necessary step that must be taken for better things to come.
If you are dumping everything in the garbage except rolling stock the deconstruction is easy. On the other hand if there are treasures on the layout you must have then naturally they come off and are put safely away first. For me, it was all the buildings, figures, turnouts, and trees. While I don't plan on using all my trees this next time around I had to build a 'holder' for them as Caspia is a fragile. I came up with this:
Simply a 2"x2" with holes drilled for tree trunks. I kept the wood about 2 feet long and got around 14 or 15 holes drilled. Jim
Anyway, back to business. While most of us are worrying about building our layouts some, me, are worried about tearing one down and replacing it. Tearing a layout down can be an emotional process. I caution you all to be as dispassionate as possible. Best of all worlds is to view the tearing down as a logical and necessary step that must be taken for better things to come.
If you are dumping everything in the garbage except rolling stock the deconstruction is easy. On the other hand if there are treasures on the layout you must have then naturally they come off and are put safely away first. For me, it was all the buildings, figures, turnouts, and trees. While I don't plan on using all my trees this next time around I had to build a 'holder' for them as Caspia is a fragile. I came up with this:
Simply a 2"x2" with holes drilled for tree trunks. I kept the wood about 2 feet long and got around 14 or 15 holes drilled. Jim
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Seconded!! But I guess after hanging around on cliffs 5000' up the sides of mountains in his previous life, you would get a little tired of them.
HOexplorer
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Toot, there is some truth in that!
Rico, Welcome, and no this is it. No new thread. I made a deal with the powers here not to clutter up the HO forum with more "stickies." It is all good. The word will get out like it did on the first thread. You wife sounds smart! Jim
Rico, Welcome, and no this is it. No new thread. I made a deal with the powers here not to clutter up the HO forum with more "stickies." It is all good. The word will get out like it did on the first thread. You wife sounds smart! Jim
HOexplorer
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Here is a progress photo of the deconstruction. One thing I found out was the plastic netting and the stucco rocks make for a much cleaner job. The netting gives a good grip and the stucco doesn't break like plaster and make a mess. Something to think about. Jim
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DairyStateDad
Mumbling in the corner
Wow, after reading this I went back and read your earliest posts in this thread in which you described the process and showed pix. That look like a really good method, or combination of methods! And I appreciate the details with which you shared it. You should write that up for one of the magazines.
And a tear was shed.
And this time we will have video (hopefully)
HOexplorer
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Erik, I've published 4 or 5 times in Z scale. Not really in to it. I'm happy to give what I know away for free.
Toot, No tears from me. This is the way I roll I guess.
Mike, Yep, last one I'm thinking.
Toot, Video, what's that? Jim
Toot, No tears from me. This is the way I roll I guess.
Mike, Yep, last one I'm thinking.
Toot, Video, what's that? Jim
HOexplorer
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After taking down a few of these layouts one becomes immune to any guilt. In this photo I endeavored to 'save' the bridge. Upon tearing up the layout it to, went into the garbage along with the dock and ore tipple scene. Oh well. Jim 
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