Weathering Rolling Stock, a Continous thread

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TLOC said:
Looks like you going to have a nice outcome.
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I sure hope so. In retrospect, I think the decision to go to a “B&O boxcar red” was the right one for these cars. I think the very “un-B&O-like” light brown was either:

1) Done by the B&O to differentiate these cars from boxes in regular freight service, or
2) Cement, being a very dusty cargo when dry, probably had the converted cement cars looking like that within a week of conversion.

Thus, I think reverting these to boxcar red is the color most suitable for conveying the prototypes in a pre-conversion/non-conversion state.

Targeted clear gloss coating: tomorrow afternoon.
 
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C&OMtnMan said:
I sure hope so. In retrospect, I think the decision to go to a “B&O boxcar red” was the right one for these cars. I think the very “un-B&O-like” light brown was either:

1) Done by the B&O to differentiate these cars from boxes in regular freight service, or
2) Cement, being a very dusty cargo when dry, probably had the converted cement cars looking like that within a week of conversion.

Thus, I think reverting these to boxcar red is the color most suitable for conveying the prototypes in a pre-conversion/non-conversion state.

Targeted clear gloss coating: tomorrow afternoon.
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Definitely agree on the points you are making. It’s one thing to say “ there’s a prototype for that” then to actually do something that is correct to the prototype

Keep enjoying and posting
 


Opinions please yes you like no you don’t. If you say no, no real need on this posting to explain your answer. If can offer something constructive that’s good and the REAL PURPOSE OF THIS WHOLE THREAD but I’m just looking for a yes or no.

Respond with top car: yes or no
bottom: yes or no

Cars have build dates of 2007 to 2011. The modeler models 2020. So a possible useage of 13 years to 9 years. I will share my response for both cars on Monday and also the modeler’s choice
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TLOC said:
Definitely agree on the points you are making. It’s one thing to say “ there’s a prototype for that” then to actually do something that is correct to the prototype

Keep enjoying and posting
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Oh, wait, that’s right! That’s what I was doing - correcting to the prototype -it wasn’t a doofus calamity at all! Yeah, I had forgotten.

Move along people, nothing to see here!
 


TLOC said:
The guys from Canada and English pronounce decals that way. Boomer at Boomer Diorama goes with both!
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Sorry Tom, we pronounce it the same as the Canadian's "deecals", my bugbear is the American pronunciation of Aluminium, and I've never worked out how the former Secretary of State Colin Powell was pronounced Coalin Powell.
 
Well Tom I have to say no on the top and yes to the bottom. You have to look at a lot of drone and bridge videos to see how they weather or not weather. I've seen many rusty car sides and a clean top and vise versa.
 
After weeks of reading through this thread and absorbing information like a sponge, allow me to introduce myself;

I'm Will, or you can call me RC, from my forum name.

RC Perspective comes from two things; Scale RC cars, and a different Perspective in Photography. I have an inkling you all might enjoy what I am about to post, as my weathering history has only just started over this past year and a half.

After getting into RC pretty heavy, I ventured into Model Trains, which has always been a childhood dream (I'm 40 now). Specifically HO scale, and mostly Conrail. I grew up in NJ and transplanted to FL in 08. So Conrail was a staple of my childhood.

I use a few things, Vallejo acrylics for airbrushing with IPA, and the occasional brush job (bogies and wheels), Oil paints in dark, rust colors, Tamiya weathering powders (which I frequently combine with oil paints), and Tamiya Panel Liners.

One thing I gather you all love very much from reading through this amazing thread; RUST. We all love rust.

So I'll start you off with something heavy, a rust bucket if you will
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You know you want to poke it.
This is oil paint dabbed on, and Tamiya weathering powder Rust and Orange Rust. The running rust by the center is Tamiya Brown Panel Liner, which was also used on the walkways. Bogies were done by brush, with Vallejo 71.042 dark brown, and wheels with a rusty rail paint marker. I've since done more to the bogies and wheels, along with the bottom of the car to better blend it in. This was an experiment to see how far to go with it.

Much more recently is this fictional Conrail 48 foot Husky Stack build. Tamiya panel liner black and brown on both the containers and car, and lots of Tamiya weathering powders, soot, rust, and orange rust. bogies and wheels with vallejo mixed Primer- German Red Brown, and Dark Brown, with Orange Rust weathering powder.
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Graffiti is Blair Line waterslide stuff. Laser cut scans of real graffiti. Been meaning to give Circus City stuff a try.

Last but not least, an EL Gondola. Tamiya weathering powders, rust, snow and soot, and brown panel liner. The load I got on ebay, a resin load, and loaded it up with the brown panel liner. I have a few other gondolas where I experimented with panel liner and selective coloring with the weathering powders I'll post another day.
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Bogies IIRC were brushed with Vallejo Dark Brown, then hit with rust weathering powder.

I pretty much use a combo of the Tamiya stuff and Vallejo. Lots of experimentation has brought me here. The pics arent the best because I'm pulling them from my Reddit posts. I usually get rid of the originals after posting them.

A crazy amount of talent in this thread, And thank you Tom for starting this thread; forums are NOT dead, and I wish more would use them.

-RC Perspective
 
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RC Perspective said:
After weeks of reading through this thread and absorbing information like a sponge, allow me to introduce myself;

I'm Will, or you can call me RC, from my forum name.

RC Perspective comes from two things; Scale RC cars, and a different Perspective in Photography. I have an inkling you all might enjoy what I am about to post, as my weathering history has only just started over this past year and a half.

After getting into RC pretty heavy, I ventured into Model Trains, which has always been a childhood dream (I'm 40 now). Specifically HO scale, and mostly Conrail. I grew up in NJ and transplanted to FL in 08. So Conrail was a staple of my childhood.

I use a few things, Vallejo acrylics for airbrushing with IPA, and the occasional brush job (bogies and wheels), Oil paints in dark, rust colors, Tamiya weathering powders (which I frequently combine with oil paints), and Tamiya Panel Liners.

One thing I gather you all love very much from reading through this amazing thread; RUST. We all love rust.

So I'll start you off with something heavy, a rust bucket if you will
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You know you want to poke it.
This is oil paint dabbed on, and Tamiya weathering powder Rust and Orange Rust. The running rust by the center is Tamiya Brown Panel Liner, which was also used on the walkways. Bogies were done by brush, with Vallejo 71.042 dark brown, and wheels with a rusty rail paint marker. I've since done more to the bogies and wheels, along with the bottom of the car to better blend it in. This was an experiment to see how far to go with it.

Much more recently is this fictional Conrail 48 foot Husky Stack build. Tamiya panel liner black and brown on both the containers and car, and lots of Tamiya weathering powders, soot, rust, and orange rust. bogies and wheels with vallejo mixed Primer- German Red Brown, and Dark Brown, with Orange Rust weathering powder.
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Graffiti is Blair Line waterslide stuff. Laser cut scans of real graffiti. Been meaning to give Circus City stuff a try.

Last but not least, an EL Gondola. Tamiya weathering powders, rust, snow and soot, and brown panel liner. The load I got on ebay, a resin load, and loaded it up with the brown panel liner. I have a few other gondolas where I experimented with panel liner and selective coloring with the weathering powders I'll post another day.
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Bogies IIRC were brushed with Vallejo Dark Brown, then hit with rust weathering powder.

I pretty much use a combo of the Tamiya stuff and Vallejo. Lots of experimentation has brought me here. The pics arent the best because I'm pulling them from my Reddit posts. I usually get rid of the originals after posting them.

A crazy amount of talent in this thread, And thank you Tom for starting this thread; forums are NOT dead, and I wish more would use them.

-RC Perspective
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RC-Will welcome aboard the thread. Your stuff looks great and will definitely fit in well. #1 here is pictures, #2 is explaining what you did and if you show pictures that’s even better. #3 is constructive criticism, no one here has an issue with being told something doesn’t look right. You just have to explain why.

You will read here, less is more! Subtle is good. Those are good reminders and I will have to post my LESS is MORE warning sign near my spray booth. I tend to be heavy handed so it’s a constant reminder to me!

Decals: I mainly use CircusCitydecals.com as I know Matt Welke, he is sort of local to me (40 miles), it’s a full time job for him, I know his dad very well and most importantly he makes great decals and IMO reasonably priced. I also have used Blair Graphics and really really like the laser cutting of the decals. I don’t think you can go wrong with either company.

Experimentation: yep since you read through the thread you know I and others encourage it as a way to learn. I still do it, probably too much. But, there are so many good choices of Paints, pigments, pastels and powders you have to experiment.

Love the gondola and the containers, but everything is good

Thanks for commenting and posting your work

TomO
 
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Regarding the 2 box car roofs. I was going to wait for Monday but since the client decided here is the result
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He loves the top roof (I don’t) but wants the cars to have roofs similar to the bottom car. He loves rust and dirt but the cars are too new yet to be as dirty as the top car. The roofs are basically aluminum panels that don’t rust but the rivets holding them together at the seams are steel and do rust spreading the streaks along the seam lines or pooling in the middle of a panel. That rust can bleed all over, but being so newish it’s not realistic

I will return home the 23 or 24th and strip these 2 car roofs. I now have a better idea of what this (new to me) client wants.

Thanks for the yes or no votes.
 
TLOC said:
RC-Will welcome aboard the thread. Your stuff looks great and will definitely fit in well. #1 here is pictures, #2 is explaining what you did and if you show pictures that’s even better. #3 is constructive criticism, no one here has an issue with being told something doesn’t look right. You just have to explain why.

You will read here, less is more! Subtle is good. Those are good reminders and I will have to post my LESS is MORE warning sign near my spray booth. I tend to be heavy handed so it’s a constant reminder to me!

Decals: I mainly use CircusCitydecals.com as I know Matt Welke, he is sort of local to me (40 miles), it’s a full time job for him, I know his dad very well and most importantly he makes great decals and IMO reasonably priced. I also have used Blair Graphics and really really like the laser cutting of the decals. I don’t think you can go wrong with either company.

Experimentation: yep since you read through the thread you know I and others encourage it as a way to learn. I still do it, probably too much. But, there are so many good choices of Paints, pigments, pastels and powders you have to experiment.

Love the gondola and the containers, but everything is good

Thanks for commenting and posting your work

TomO
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Less is more. We have the same problem LOL.

Experimentation is how we discover new little tricks and tips to pass along; sometimes.

I find weathering to be a bit like welding; anything can be fixed. And while I have a long road ahead on my journey, the "less is more" moniker sticks better and better every day.

I've started mixing down my paints to roughly 10% paint and 90% IPA. Especially for grime or dirt layers. That way you can see how the car progresses, instead of going to heavy off the bat, and having to strip the model. I really do love the Tamiya weathering powders, but I also may be biased as it's all I have used. Wanting to try some PP, or that other weathering system posted awhile back in the thread, with the dry adhesive mixed in. That one seems to me to be more like the Tamiya powders. They're in a binder. I do a mix of powder, applicator, and brush. 100% less is more with the Tamiya powders, you just have to get used to them.

Now if I could just swing through a beauty supply store and pick up some new brushes and applicators. The Tamiya dust applicators don't last long at all with a heavy hand.

As a final detour from the topic at hand, I started out in this hobby, by purchasing a large box of HO scale trains from a gentleman down here in FL. Funny story actually. They were his late fathers trains, and they were boxed up in 79, and haven't been touched since. Turns out they lived in Piscataway, NJ, the next town over from Dunellen, which is where I grew up. So everything in the box was older than I am, with a few being older than my parents.

From there it kind of spiralled, and now I have a full room shelf layout mounted at my shoulder height for immersion (I'm 5'9").

I have so much weathered stuff to post, but I'll spread it out, as to not post way too much at once. (I have an oversharing issue; My older sister coined the term "Verbal Diarrhea" LMAO!)

So in closing, Tom, thank you for the warm welcome, and comments on those cars! I am open to constructive criticism, as discussion increases our individual capabilities!

-RC Perspective
 


RC Perspective said:
Less is more. We have the same problem LOL.

Experimentation is how we discover new little tricks and tips to pass along; sometimes.

I find weathering to be a bit like welding; anything can be fixed. And while I have a long road ahead on my journey, the "less is more" moniker sticks better and better every day.

I've started mixing down my paints to roughly 10% paint and 90% IPA. Especially for grime or dirt layers. That way you can see how the car progresses, instead of going to heavy off the bat, and having to strip the model. I really do love the Tamiya weathering powders, but I also may be biased as it's all I have used. Wanting to try some PP, or that other weathering system posted awhile back in the thread, with the dry adhesive mixed in. That one seems to me to be more like the Tamiya powders. They're in a binder. I do a mix of powder, applicator, and brush. 100% less is more with the Tamiya powders, you just have to get used to them.

Now if I could just swing through a beauty supply store and pick up some new brushes and applicators. The Tamiya dust applicators don't last long at all with a heavy hand.

As a final detour from the topic at hand, I started out in this hobby, by purchasing a large box of HO scale trains from a gentleman down here in FL. Funny story actually. They were his late fathers trains, and they were boxed up in 79, and haven't been touched since. Turns out they lived in Piscataway, NJ, the next town over from Dunellen, which is where I grew up. So everything in the box was older than I am, with a few being older than my parents.

From there it kind of spiralled, and now I have a full room shelf layout mounted at my shoulder height for immersion (I'm 5'9").

I have so much weathered stuff to post, but I'll spread it out, as to not post way too much at once. (I have an oversharing issue; My older sister coined the term "Verbal Diarrhea" LMAO!)

So in closing, Tom, thank you for the warm welcome, and comments on those cars! I am open to constructive criticism, as discussion increases our individual capabilities!

-RC Perspective
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Are you thinking about AIM powders now owned and produced by Monroe

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