WANTED: Information on a combine car


It does look like a pay car but it wasn't. I understand it carried mail.
I'd really like to get a floor plan if possible. That walkway is driving me crazy LOL
Another interesting thing about it is that it has 12 windows but seats 29 people. Very odd in my opinion... Why not 36? There must be something up front or in back preventing the 7 additional seats. Possibly a pot belly stove and a rick??? Another reason why I'd love to see a few interior shots.

Just for fun, I've thrown together a very loose WIP,

cvc1.jpg


Thanks,
 
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thegrindre said:
does anybody have plans and or interior photos of this combination car?
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I found everything but interior plans and photos......

http://pdfhost.focus.nps.gov/docs/NRHP/Text/64000729.pdf

Scroll down to "Inventory of cars" where it will list exterior dimensions such as Length, Outside length, Height rail to eaves and so on.

Check this out: http://prrths-ne.org/nechapter_eastwind.html

Scroll down to the Autumn 2009, Vol. 6, No. 1 issue, as it covered the CV combination car. Back orders are only $6.00! :)

Here's another picture of the car (Scroll down until you see it.) in question:

http://matterhorn1959.blogspot.com/2008/05/chicago-rail-fair-1948-slides-set_26.html

Close up shot of the car on display:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RRMOP_CVRR_ext.JPG

http://www.mikesrails.com/2011/08/railroad-museum-rolling-stock-2.html

From the above website is the following: Research seems to indicate that this car was built to handle U.S. Mail service in the Cumberland Valley. It is possible this car was used to transport troops of the U.S. Army during the Civil War. Car B was used in regular service(passenger)until 1888. It was then assigned to maintenance of way service as a tool and supply car until being placed in storage in 1909. Not only does the age of this car make it special but the gangway or gallery along the side of the baggage area is unique. Very few gallery cars were built. They are often confused with pay cars which were used by many railroads.
As part of the PRR historical collection, this car was exhibited at Northumberland, Pa. with the Cumberland Valley Locomotive "Pioneer". It was also part of the Pennsy's extensive exhibit at the 1939-40 World's Fair in New York City. It was later loaned to the Strasburg Railroad in 1963 for exhibition.
While at Strasburg, it was restored to its 1855 appearance by the Strasburg Rail Road Company. During this restoration, the small windows were uncovered. Also, the original colors seen today, were discovered under 11 layers of paint.
Wooden Construction
Cumberland Valley Railroad Shops Chambersburg, Pa. - 1855
Length: 43' 1"
Width: 9' 3 3/4"
Height: 10' 11"
Weight: 15.7 Tons (31,500 lbs.)
Seating Capacity: 29
Posted by Mike Carter at 5:00 AM

Two more exterior photos: http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM1WQJ_Cumberland_Valley_Car

Another great exterior photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24736216@N07/4697972197/

I even found you Rick: http://www.elvastower.com/forums/index.php?/topic/18195-1855-passenger-car/

This guy built a freelanced version: http://www.northriverrailway.net/DRVR_COMBINE_files/frame.htm#slide0001.htm
 
Holy smokes, Old 97, you've been busy. I've spent a few more hours myself researching this thing.
I've found about half of what you've found. LOLOL
Maybe I can piece it together from your half. LOL
It's that offset that's getting to me.

LOLOL I see you found my haunt, too. LOL

Thank you very much. :)
 
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I had to completely rebuild this one. My math was waaaay off but I think I've got a handle on it, now.
You've been an enormous help, Old97.
Thanks again.

1855cvc3.jpg


:)
 
I've re-sized my freight wheels and set 'em where they're supposed to be. I now need to build passenger frames around them.
It's riding on my diamond archbar trucks right now.

cvrr6.jpg
 
Thought I start working on the trucks for a little change up.
Also loaded it into the simulator to look for any operational errors or modeling bloopers I may have made.

It's coming along nicely, IMO. :)


cvrr9.jpg


:)
 
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