Lorenzo Beckmann
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please advise for better trucks on Rivarossi 1930 coaches, Athearn '70's lite wt coaches. thanks
please advise for better trucks on Rivarossi 1930 coaches, Athearn '70's lite wt coaches.
I have 4 Rivarossi coach's which I'm converting to body mounted couplings, I'll let you know how I get on with it.all great tips, thanks. some trucks permit up to 1/8" axle side to side float (already w intermountain metal wheels). Am heavily considering body mount couplings. I've looked at Kadee body mount box-couplers--likely to go that experiment.
I have come to the conclusion, I don't like you Now I find the Kadee #451, NOW, after 2 days of fitting KaDee#5 couplings and draft boxes to my Rivarossi UP coaches, you share this, Oh Balls!!, life was so much simpler in OO landI have done a similar conversion. I used the Kadee #451 coupler, Intermountain NS wheels and Rapido passenger car trucks. I body mounted the couplers. I had to make some modifications to the underside of the cars, but it isn't noticeable, so I don't care. The important thing is it now performs great on the layout. Good luck. Glenn
Errr Nope!That's OK. I still like you. The Kadee #451 can resolve a number of ailments. To get them to work well may take some patience, but when you get it right there is no better solution. As far as converting to Kadee #5 couplers go, I have stopped using them. I am converting all my Kadee #5 couplers to Kadee #148. The #148 performance , in conjunction with the #242 snap together gear box, is amazing. Hope I got this information, to you, before you converted too many #5 couplers.
Glenn I know what an arch bar truck is but you identify part of the truck in your photo as "arch bar in place" I've never heard this before what kind of truck has this on it ? Just curiousI have done a similar conversion. I used the Kadee #451 coupler, Intermountain NS wheels and Rapido passenger car trucks. I body mounted the couplers. I had to make some modifications to the underside of the cars, but it isn't noticeable, so I don't care. The important thing is it now performs great on the layout. Good luck. Glenn
Mike,Glenn I know what an arch bar truck is but you identify part of the truck in your photo as "arch bar in place" I've never heard this before what kind of truck has this on it ? Just curious
Thanks Mike
I know this probably a dumb question but how do you work out how far forward of the beam the #451 needs to be, to allow sufficient swing on the couplings.?I have done a similar conversion. I used the Kadee #451 coupler, Intermountain NS wheels and Rapido passenger car trucks. I body mounted the couplers. I had to make some modifications to the underside of the cars, but it isn't noticeable, so I don't care. The important thing is it now performs great on the layout. Good luck. Glenn
Not dumb. Hard! Maybe measure the length of the new coupler beam and multiple by two. Set the cars on the minimum radius curve. Push them together to the closeness you want. Use the number from above to find the point along the center line of both cars where a cord of that length would make them fit. You know seat of pants engineering.I know this probably a dumb question but how do you work out how far forward of the beam the #451 needs to be, to allow sufficient swing on the couplings.?
Ok, I think I get what your saying, Sound's better than my idea anyway. I have some NEM conversion couplings, that look to be roughly the same length as the 451's, their very thin so I can't use them on the coaches proper, but they would do for a trial run, thanks, I'll give it a go and see what happens.Not dumb. Hard! Maybe measure the length of the new coupler beam and multiple by two. Set the cars on the minimum radius curve. Push them together to the closeness you want. Use the number from above to find the point along the center line of both cars where a cord of that length would make them fit. You know seat of pants engineering.
Glenn
Question you say that three axle truck is made by Rapido It looked like a truck I could maybe use so tried to find it no luck at all
Do you by any chance have a part number or where to get them at
Also I'm still confused by the arch bar in place It looks to me to be a outside brake bar or beam
this is what I consider arch bar View attachment 144096
Smudge617,I know this probably a dumb question but how do you work out how far forward of the beam the #451 needs to be, to allow sufficient swing on the couplings.?
Mike,Glenn
Question you say that three axle truck is made by Rapido It looked like a truck I could maybe use so tried to find it no luck at all
Do you by any chance have a part number or where to get them at
Also I'm still confused by the arch bar in place It looks to me to be a outside brake bar or beam
this is what I consider arch bar View attachment 144096
Mike,Glenn
Question you say that three axle truck is made by Rapido It looked like a truck I could maybe use so tried to find it no luck at all
Do you by any chance have a part number or where to get them at
Also I'm still confused by the arch bar in place It looks to me to be a outside brake bar or beam
this is what I consider arch bar View attachment 144096