I believe that Jack's layout was DC powered with some PFM sound units installed in his locomotives. If you do a search for Jack Parker's Northern Pacific HO Layout. there are some other videos available.
And the Milwalkee, the Colorado Southern, the Colorado Midland, the Burlington, the Spokane Portland & Seattle. Unlike most of the others (other notable exceptions being Harriman and Strong), he just loved railroading. So if loving railroading is splitting hairs with other folks who just treated them like any other business they could buy and cash out of, then yes we are splitting hairs. I see it as a huge ideological difference.So, in the end, James J Hill did start, complete and ran the successful Great Northern which never went belly up and made minimal use of Land Grants, he also ended up owning the Northern Pacific, too.
Yeah, OK. I was just being much more specific in what unscrupulous business practices meant in this case.Iron Horseman, I thought the question was: Was James J Hi;ll a Robber Barron? The fact that he loved railroading; or. at least owning and making money from Railroads would certainly be very obvious to me.
Thank You. Looking forward to more book summaries and history.By what you seem to be saying, I take it that you feel James J Hill was not a Robber Baron. By what I have seen written about him, I can't separate Mr. Hill from any of the other Robber Barons! Since this appears to be a difference of opinion between us and the fact that being able to Prove/Disprove what a Robber Baron was/is; or, that James J Hill wasn't/was one, I would prefer to let this topic lie and go back to reading my book on the history of the Northern Pacific and discuss what the book states in this thread. As I've stated earlier, what real difference does this make? If he was, I don't much care, if he wasn't I still don't care!
Yes, the original Northern was Alco built Timken 1111 known as 4 Aces. It was called Timken because it was also the promo unit for Timken roller bearings. It is the loco that had such easy rolling resistance they would tie a rope to the front of and have 3 people pull it down the track. In Chicago they had 3 women pull it.So, that's where the 4-8-4 originated. Even in NZ their K, Ka and Kb classes were referred to as Northerns.
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