Broadway Limited or ScaleTrains?


AstroKnight187

“Conrail was really cool”
I have been looking for a Conrail (As delivered scheme) SD40 or SD40-2 in HO scale. I want really good detail, nice lights (including class lights), and really nice sound.

So far I’ve considered a BLI SD40, and the ScaleTrains 2019 run of the SD40-2. I can’t find an ST from 2019, only the new ones. If I’m correct, they didn’t do the can-opener scheme this time. A friend told me that ST was going to do another run of the SD40-2 in CR next year, but they didn’t announce anything yet.

If anybody could tell me which is the better option from experience, please let me know 🙏 😅
 
In my experience, I would prefer the Scale Trains product.
With the dozens of BLI locomotives I've bought over the years, both steam and diesel, I have had problems with many of them, primarily the decoders. There early Paragon decoders then the, die young QSI decoders were supposed to be the strictest NMRA compliant decoder on the market, when in fact that strictness caused operating problems. Example: ya hit a dead spot on your track or cross into another power district with a slight change in voltage, the loco would come to a slam stop, reboot then proceed. BLI would tell ya to fix your track voltage or clean the track better. All other decoders, Soundtraxx, Digitrax, TCS and MRC could handle the track problem and cruise on through it.
 
In my experience, I would prefer the Scale Trains product.
With the dozens of BLI locomotives I've bought over the years, both steam and diesel, I have had problems with many of them, primarily the decoders. There early Paragon decoders then the, die young QSI decoders were supposed to be the strictest NMRA compliant decoder on the market, when in fact that strictness caused operating problems. Example: ya hit a dead spot on your track or cross into another power district with a slight change in voltage, the loco would come to a slam stop, reboot then proceed. BLI would tell ya to fix your track voltage or clean the track better. All other decoders, Soundtraxx, Digitrax, TCS and MRC could handle the track problem and cruise on through it.
Thank you!

Do you know if there will be a new run of the ScaleTrains SD40-2 in Conrail (As-delivered scheme)?

Edit: Just to clear up any confusion, I'm talking about the can-opener scheme. I am not looking for one in the Quality scheme
 
Note that, for several years now, all of the major suppliers of decoders have included a capacitor or 'keep-alive' component to get the locomotive over trackage where continuity is poor between the track elements or where the locomotive's pick-up tires lose contact with the perfectly well powered rails. This includes all Paragon 4 releases to date.

QSI decoders are an early form of decoder of which I still have all but two examples....of perhaps ten that I purchased between January 2005 and the end of 2010-12 when QSI released the last of their models, the Titan (my memory says that the Titan was the last release, perhaps I'm wrong...). They were odd in their indexing which required multiple steps to programme individual sounds. But, their sounds were pretty decent, even by today's standards, and their motor control still stands up reasonably well. Years earlier, QSI had a court challenge from Mike's Train House (MTH, now about six years out of the HO market). MTH felt that QSI had infringed on fine motor control patents and took QSI to court. MTH lost. Meanwhile, the courts prohibited, or injuncted, QSI from using their own fine motor control until the matter was settled. Shortly after the case was determined, and again NOT in MTH's favour, SQI offered a plug-in module for all their decoders to correct the defect in motor control which their software had controlled. They charged $20 plus posting, if I recall. I corrected three of my decoders that way.

BLI's Paragon decoders are generally very good, especially their vastly improved P4s. I read of many lamentations over the P3 variants released from maybe 2013/14 until about three years ago now, so I declined to purchase any of those releases.

Finally, I found this person's site and contracted him to repair a Paragon (first version) NYC Niagara 4-8-4 whose QSI had quit. He is a good communicator, easy to deal with, quick turnaround, and did a good solid repair of my unit. I highly recommend his service if you ever wish to convert an problematic BLI (only) locomotive to P4 (which is what I did since it included the keep-alive component). Prices are reasonable, considering. His name, BTW, is Seneca Pearson...I think I have his last name spelled correctly, might be Pierson. Give him a shout!
 
Thank you!

Do you know if there will be a new run of the ScaleTrains SD40-2 in Conrail (As-delivered scheme)?

Edit: Just to clear up any confusion, I'm talking about the can-opener scheme. I am not looking for one in the Quality scheme
If I may make an additional suggestion, if ScaleTrains has no immediate plans to re-release that model in that paint scheme, it might be worth while to check the second hand market. I've managed to get some pretty nice locomotives, sometimes never used, off of ebay and elsewhere for fairly reasonable prices.
 
If I may make an additional suggestion, if ScaleTrains has no immediate plans to re-release that model in that paint scheme, it might be worth while to check the second hand market. I've managed to get some pretty nice locomotives, sometimes never used, off of ebay and elsewhere for fairly reasonable prices.
Is the 2019 version good? I’m looking for good sound, good detail, and nice lights, plus class lights
 
Is the 2019 version good? I’m looking for good sound, good detail, and nice lights, plus class lights
I had one and liked it. The Conrail versions should only have the red marker lights.
A search of the internet for opinions and reviews should give you your answers, just make sure you check at least two or three places. There’s one model railroad forum I know of that almost universally pans everything, and if you happen to find a review there, you’d never buy a model train from anywhere ever again…
 



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