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In the next couple weeks I will be needing to set up the next section of my layout. This will be an around the walls 24'' shelf type. (16'x13'x20')
I have been thinking about supports that would be as follows,
Triangle type gussets measuring 24'' long x 4'' high made of 7/8'' foundation forming wood (strong type of plywood)
These then would be screwed to a 10' x 6'' x 1'' pine or oak. (as many as it takes to go around) This then would be fastened to the wall attaching at the studs every 16''. Spacing of the support gussets would be about 1'' off center of the studs in the wall giving me a supoort every 16''.
Then after that benchwork is up on the walls I would tie it all together with 1x3 board spaced 8'' apart then 2'' foam on top of that.
Opinions?
sounds a bit overkill since you are using foam for the deck.
I ran an upper 1x2 ledger along the wall at (whatever) height to support the rear edge of the deck. Then a lower 1x2 ledger just above the baseboard. These can be fastened to the studs wherever they need to be. Then diagonal 1x2 supports from the lower ledger to the front edge of the deck and 1x2 horizontal supports from the upper ledger to the front edge can likewise be added without regard to stud locations to form those load triangles at whatever spacing is needed. For really deep locations where the diagonal is fairly long, a tension stringer from the diagonal's midpoint to the upper ledger will keep it straight under load.
Remember in truss design the sides/edges of those triangles take all the load. The stuff in the middle just adds weight. Glue AND screw every joint and use 90 degree corner braces where necessary.
I need to use a low profile design as I will have all my home theatre and big screen under the layout. I want as much flat wall space under the shelf as possible.
Keep in mind that my layout will be going around my livingroom that will be in my basemnet. I need to make this look as clean and flowing as possible.
As for the actual construction, yes glue and countersinked screws will be used. 3 - #8 x 2'' wood screws secure the truss to the ledger board.
I just quickly made a couple up and mounted them to 2 studs in my laundry room and they can actually support my wieght at the ends. They flex a bit, but they wont break with the weight of the layout.
I think these are going to work.....
If your running your layout over the top of your screen, why not just use a bridge for that particular section.. At 13" deep (if I'm reading that right) built on 2" foam, simple wall brackets would suffice!
Its all going to be 24'' deep. Room dimensions are 16'x13'x20'. (u-shape)
And along the 13' wall I might go deeper, 30'' MAX
Dang Kellan, you're main layout wasn't big enough? LOL
You're like me, it's never big enough is it!. I started building my extension room also, it's a 9' x 9' room next to the main room layout which is 12'x 15'.
For benchwork in the extension room, I'm using 2x4s supports for 1/2" plywood, and then 2" foam. Around the walls walk in type. Roughly 30" deep.
I'm interested in seeing some photos of your benchwork for the shelves.
Do you have a track plan?
Keep us updated.
No track plan yet, I still have to finish the last area and helix before that, LOL. I just want to have the benchwork up and on the walls before I finish the hardwood floor.
I'll post some pictures maybe tonight of the quick mock up I did. I have buddy's and beers coming over tonight to tackle the suspended ceiling. I have already moved most of the structures off the layout, but still managed to take out one of my grider bridges while walking around on top of it installing the hanger wire and the few pieces we got installed lastnight.
Aftersight is always better than foresight
Hi guys, First post here.
I developed a thin shelf bracket system for my railroad using cut down double shelf standards and U shaped brackets.
Total thickness is 4.75"
You can see it on my blog here:
http://georgetownbranch.blogspot.com/2010/05/shelf-construction.html
In the next couple weeks I will be needing to set up the next section of my layout. This will be an around the walls 24'' shelf type. (16'x13'x20')
I have been thinking about supports that would be as follows,
Triangle type gussets measuring 24'' long x 4'' high made of 7/8'' foundation forming wood (strong type of plywood)
These then would be screwed to a 10' x 6'' x 1'' pine or oak. (as many as it takes to go around) This then would be fastened to the wall attaching at the studs every 16''. Spacing of the support gussets would be about 1'' off center of the studs in the wall giving me a supoort every 16''.
Then after that benchwork is up on the walls I would tie it all together with 1x3 board spaced 8'' apart then 2'' foam on top of that.
Opinions?
Excatly what I am doing only I'll be making 1 3/4'' thick brackets spaced 16'' on stud.
I ended up going 32" on center because I had a few bridges that went under the tracks I had to keep.
Can't wait ti see pictures.
Excatly what I am doing only I'll be making 1 3/4'' thick brackets spaced 16'' on stud.
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