The Train Bug Has Infected Me

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bri95

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Hi all. I'm interested in pursuing the O-scale postwar era. This is what my Dad had as a kid who shared with me when I was a child. I would like to do the same as a father now for my kids. I'm pretty much starting from scratch. I do have a nice dry basement that I can take over. A friend of mine recently got me into this hobby and gave me some old 3 rail track to play around with. I've been looking for some postwar steamers and diesels to buy for restoring/repairing. Also bought Greenberg's book to help on that. For a track layout, should I use the new stuff (fastrac) or is the old 3 rail stuff from 50's ok to start with?

Nostalgia is making a comeback.

Brian
 
The train bug tends to be life long - no cure that I am aware of!

If you are going O scale, you'll need a lot of room - preferably an air craft hanger but a large basement may do in a pinch!

I model in HO and am not highly knowledgably in O, but there are two version available: 1) O27 or 2) the scale 2-rail O. The latter is like HO only about twice as big - two rails, trains are scale copies of real trains. O27 is the 3 rail version which is more toy like and many of us had when we were kids back in the 1950's and 1960's and after. It can include scale trains but often have shorty trains made a bit more toy like and can run around comparatively sharp curves.

O27 was my first electric train set I received at age 4 for Christmas on a 4x6' board and included a Lionel Lines Hudson steam engine, some freight cars and a caboose. I later got an FA-FA diesel set to add on. After some years I discovered smaller scale electric trains and sold off my O27 trains except for the steam engine which I kept for nostalgia purposes and still have - albeit missing wheels and I think the tender now after a gazillion moves. After I got older I preferred HO due to ability to fit a layout in a smaller space since I've never been well enough off for a big basement and I prefer the greater realism that scale trains offer.

That said, many like the nostalgia of the 3-rail O27 over the realism of scale trains and O27 has had a major resurgence in the past 25-30 years as many guys got older and had the money to buy O27 and could afford to build large empires and relive the trains of their youth. Cheers.
 
Nostalgia is making a comeback.
Brian

Welcome, I literally just joined as well, so I am in no position to guide you, but your quote is awesome.

Part of why I am returning is because I want my kids to experience something tangible, hands on, as opposed to only playing with a console or an iPad (nothing against that). I had an Atari, but after about 30-45 minutes I was ready to go out and throw a ball, climb a tree, ride a bike. I feel kids these days experience too much through virtual devices, Model Railroading is there, hands on, teaches about wiring, benchwork, etc. etc.

Glad it is making a comeback.

/p
 


Coal It:

Welcome to the Forum...glad you want your children to enjoy the hobby. We need to support more children and have them join us in our hobby.

Greg
 
Hi Brian,

I grew up on Lionel trains too, like many of us who never shook the train bug. I'm trying to work in HO now but have many friends that still do the "O" three rail. The post war stuff is wonderfully solid and therefore a great place for youngsters to start. It's also much more forgiving in terms of how well your layout gets built. Scale "O" like "HO" and "N" requires a bit more craftsmanship.

Regarding your question about three rail track, you may want to know that Lionel stopped making the old style tubular track last year. You can still get some of it, but turnouts are getting really hard to find. Note also that there are two types of the old tubular track. O-27 is the small, lighter weight, less costly track that can work with the old Marx track if you choose. O track is taller with bigger pins making it hard to mix the two. They are both "O" gauge meaning that your dad's trains will run on either of them. Also note that O track was made with more variety of curve sizes. Other than that, the old tubular track is a very workable system. Plus it's getting hard to find parts to restore the old trains, so if you like the searching part, you're going the right way.

My local hobby shop caries both Lionel Fastrack and MTH Realtrax. They also carry the Atlas three rail track which is very nice and noticeably more spendy. Fastrack and Realtrax are both good systems but they each have their pros and cons. They both make adaptor tracks to connect to the old O track. I'd recommend seeing what your local shop carries (hopefully you have a local shop) and talk to them and check out the options in person.

A couple final comments about getting into "O" or O-27. First, you can get more track in a given space than you might think. The "27" in O-27 refers to the diameter of the smallest circle. HO starter sets usually provide 18" radius track. That's a 36" diameter circle. That said, the trains don't look as good on such a tight curve and the buildings are still twice as big, taking four times the space in square inches. Second, three rail trains come in multiple sizes. The old O-27 (and new O-27) are built smaller than scale. This made it less expensive to get started and helps them negotiate such tight curves. Over the years, Lionel and more recently MTH and others have made trains that were a variety of sizes up to full scale. Not all of them look good when run together and most of the full scale pieces will not run on the tighter curves.

I hope that wasn't TMI. I'm sure you'll have fun no matter which way you go.
 
For a track layout, should I use the new stuff (fastrac) or is the old 3 rail stuff from 50's ok to start with?
The old stuff commonly came in three sizes of curves O-27, regular O (which is O-31), and O-72. There were also O-42 and O-54 curves (although in 40 years I've never seen either of these later ones). There was basically a turnout for each, 90 degree and 45 degree crossings. The O-27 had a lower profile rail so it didn't mix well.

With the new track there are several curve sizes O-31, O-48, O-54, O-60, O-72, and O-84.

So I don't know if that is a consideration or not. I have no problem with the older track. One can certainly get it cheaply used at swap meets and the like.
 




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