The “Give Tony Grief” Thread

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ctclibby said:
Signal masts can go on either side of the track. You want to place them where it is obvious to what the signal is protecting.
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Okay, maybe I've got it wrong then, I always understood it to be that the signal or signal mast is always on the left of the track (unless it's an overhead gantry) logic being that that's the side the Engineer sits. ?
 
Smudge617 said:
Okay, maybe I've got it wrong then, I always understood it to be that the signal or signal mast is always on the left of the track (unless it's an overhead gantry) logic being that that's the side the Engineer sits. ?
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"Most" railroads in North America are configured for right-hand running. That is where the engineer sits, and signals would be located on the right, where the engineer can more easily see them.
 


The one signal nearest my job (don’t ban me for using bad words) is on the right for north bound trains. But south bound trains see it on the left. The only place where there are signals on both sides is the passing sidings. And that has both sides signaled at the middle. Can squeeze 2 trains to 1 side.
 
Smudge617 said:
Okay, maybe I've got it wrong then, I always understood it to be that the signal or signal mast is always on the left of the track (unless it's an overhead gantry) logic being that that's the side the Engineer sits. ?
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Smudge: I don't think anything is wrong. In my neck of the woods and assuming single track main, there used to be 2 masts - one on each side of the track. When that was the case, signals facing the engineer were on that side of things. When the bean counters got involved one mast went away and both signals were placed on one mast to make stuff less $$$. I can see why 2 masts though. What if you were running a BigBoy? There would be a place at some point that you could not see the signal cuz the boiler was in the way and could possibly miss an aspect change - if mast was placed on the fireman side. Sure the fireman *could* be signal watching, but also could be doing something else and miss it.

Sidings were pretty much the same, both would be on the engineers side frog end. Now days and from what I have seen, both are on the outside of everything and one would not be on the 'right' side. The route signal ( point end facing away ) always seems to be on the opposite side of the diverging track. This throws the 'BigBoy' stuff out the window as stated in the above paragraph if diverging away on engineers side though.

Food for thought? Hmmm, ima hungry.

Later
 
bnsf971 said:
"Most" railroads in North America are configured for right-hand running. That is where the engineer sits, and signals would be located on the right, where the engineer can more easily see them.
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That's quite true before 1985, it seems after that date RR's were allowed to place signals on the left.
So it depends what era Tony's modelling, ah well, maybe a little bit more modelling in Tony's future.
 
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Today’s low hood locomotives allow signal viewing from both sides. The only time I can see a major difference is a local running long hood forward. Catching the signals in a bouncing mirror is a talent I don’t have.
 
ctclibby said:
Tony: Probably splitting hairs: Looks like you are half way there. What about trains from the other direction: I.E. top to bottom of the pix? 2 more signals are needed to protect the main line ( and turnout ); one on the main, tother on the divergent route. Both of these are on the frog side of the turnout facing outward.

Also, the Red aspect is usually used to show the next block is occupied -or- or a turnout with the points not aligned. Divergent routes are usually Yellow ( restricted ) telling engineer that the turnout is short/sharp AND as long as the block is clear. Green works if you have 'high speed points/frog'.

Signal masts can go on either side of the track. You want to place them where it is obvious to what the signal is protecting.

You need more to do .... right?

Later
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Thanks and oh hell yeah - of course I need more things to do :rolleyes::oops::D:D

I just finished reading what you guys left about signal placement - my head hurts!!!
 


Hang on - hang on - What do you mean download? I didn't download anything, just went to their site, registered and uploaded my pictures to it ... no downloading anything??

Imgur is a third party site - you upload your pics to it, then copy the appropriate "link" to paste the pictures into the forums. There is no downloading unless they have changed it?
 


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