Running Bear's September 2022 Coffee Shop

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Gary - I am glad you are doing ok. I have been following the storm and aftermath closely. My eldest nephew Ethan is attending his undergrad at St. Francis Xavier University in Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada. He says they will not have power until Thursday the earliest. Lots of tree damage etc. He lives off campus but only about a 10 to 15 minute walk away. One of the campus buildings has generator power and he is able to go there and charge his phone and laptop etc. Anyways he graduates this coming spring. He's quite an accomplished writer and has published 9 times already (5 books and 4 short stories) since he graduated High School. He is 23 yrs old. Anyways he and his 2 brothers are struggling with the loss of their mother. (my baby sister) We are still working through that the best we can.

Just glad you and yours are ok and you can move forward.

Peace
James
Wow, for someone so young, he is doing so well! St FX is about 90minutes from here so it illustrates how wide the storm was. If he needs to come to Halifax to get some rest or anything, let me know. I would have to drive up after work or on the weekend but am able if he needs assistance.
 
Partly cloudy and 86° here in Gulf Shores. Still on hurricane watch. Right now it appears that it will take a more easterly path and stay well east of Pensacola FL. That's about 40 miles away and they're just predicting 0.5" of rain locally. But Curt and Phil are probably battening down right now. The folks on the Weather Channel are quite excited. Jim Cantore is still in Clearwater so we should be safe.
We're enjoying our time here. The Gulf temperature is a pleasant 85°, our outdoor pool is 84°. I haven't been to the indoor pool yet. Today we went to the local zoo and went grocery shopping. Not much, less than $40.
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We're staying here.

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Fifth floor, second from the left
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No belly flop from the balcony; our balcony is over the shallow end.
Beach view from the end of our boardwalk.
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Beach has not been crowded, at a real loss of eye-candy.

OK, it's time to get ready for dinner at an Italian place. We chose to not have Mexican food with the SIL and the gang from Tennessee tonight, having just had it Saturday night.
Later folks.
 


The folks on the Weather Channel are quite excited. Jim Cantore is still in Clearwater so we should be safe.
Look out Clearwater! :eek:

Nice looking place with a great view. Enjoy! We seriously considered Pensacola as a retirement location, after spending time there while second son was at the NAS. The prospect of Gulf Hurricanes made the wife nervous. Love the Gulf coast.
 
The prospect of Gulf Hurricanes made the wife nervous.
I certainly understand. My family lived in New Orleans from '59-'61 and we experienced a couple of them including Carla in 1961 which was a category 4. Living as far north in Texas as I do now, we don't get the brunt like Harvey or Rita, but sometimes get some outflow rain. Actually tropical storms do more damage to us.
 
Braggart ;) 😇

(I'm jealous -- I've always wished to be able to shoot off a back porch -- I remember a post on USENET some 30 years ago about a guy in NH who could shoot off his back porch about 150-175 yards. Been jealous ever since -- my "win the lottery" drean was 500 acres in Montana with a house with this feature).

Had a house Southeast of Libby just after we first moved there in '04. Clear shot 450 yards downrange from front porch. Actually shot a couple of coyotes at different times with my Savage 223 WSSM to keep them from getting the chickens. Great fun as you could stand on the front porch naked; if you wished, of which we did once and shoot cow pies for entertainment. Another plus was the pond that would show up after rain where we would throw big plastic jugs into, then use that for pistol practice. About 75 yards for that. When the pond went away you would just go out and pick up those holy targets.
One of the Coyote's was a multicolored female. Never have seen that many colors. Anyway, took the carcass into town to price getting her stuffed. Boy oh boy, they wanted gold! 1500 bucks. Ended up leaving her on top of a dumpster in a good pose. Went back to town a few hours later and she was gone. Ahhhh, life in Montana!

Later
 
Hmmm, "one dissident opinion" happens all of the time these days to silence whomever. I have always taken anomyous complaints with a grain of salt. One, forget it, multiples of almost the same maybe time to do something. It would be good if the powers that be did at least some accounting about this. I would think that since it is "The Coffee Shop" people can and should be able to express their opinion as long as there is no finger pointing or name calling ( or other flames ) and stuff keeps at the polite conversation level. This forum may be the only place that some are comfortable with talking about whatever and it is good to get stuff "off your chest" sorta speak. Only my $.02 worth and probably does not amount to a hill of beans.

Later
Good Morning All. It's hazy and 79° here in Gulf Shores AL this morning. View from our balcony this morning.
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Obviously I located the misplaced camera/laptop cord!
No one in the condo pool yet, although it feels to be a comfortable 85°.View attachment 152301
Meanwhile someone is cleaning the pool next door.
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While the chair/umbrella crew is setting up their stuff.
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They didn't used to let "Ike" drive his truck on to the beach, so that's something new.

For now, wife is out getting herself some coffee and driving over to see her sister. She'll be back in a bit to get with me. I believe that we're going to the zoo today, before the hurricane hits later this week! Meanwhile I am getting ready to go for a walk. I'll be back later with more pictures.

Everybody have a great day.
Thanks, now got the image of Willie diving off into the pool with no trunks on and a neighbour pointing and saying "Oh look, it's free Willie." 🤣 🤣
Mine would be a swan dive into a triple lindy belly flop! LoL
Todd- How tall is this hill and what type of beans are we discussing? Limas, kidneys or just plain ole' string beans? Inquiring minds want to know.
Willie- Stay safe with Ian heading your way. I'd say it was named from my uncle, but his name is not pronounced the British/Irish way, His name is Ian(long I as in "eyeball")..... the German pronunciation. I noticed in a later post that you mentioned the infamous Jim Cantore. I think he's only made an appearance in Wisconsin, in the 10 years I've been here, about 5 years ago, when we got a real bad "spring" blizzard. He showed up in Green Bay, where they got 2+ feet of snow(we only saw about a foot & a half here in the center of the state).There's a picture of a YMCA north of Green Bay(Marinette County, I believe) that had snow drifts higher than their doorway.
Dang it, Smudge- Now I can't unsee that mental image!! ***mind scrub, mind scrub, mind scrub***
James- Did you formerly perform in the Diving Horse show at The Steel Pier, too?? 😂😂
Joe- Pensacola is where the Navy evacuated New Orleans personnel to when Odette hit Louisiana last fall. My nephew & his family live on the North side of Lake Pontchartrain(about 1/2 mile from the causeway).
 


Hmmm, "one dissident opinion" happens all of the time these days to silence whomever. I have always taken anomyous complaints with a grain of salt. One, forget it, multiples of almost the same maybe time to do something. It would be good if the powers that be did at least some accounting about this. I would think that since it is "The Coffee Shop" people can and should be able to express their opinion as long as there is no finger pointing or name calling ( or other flames ) and stuff keeps at the polite conversation level. This forum may be the only place that some are comfortable with talking about whatever and it is good to get stuff "off your chest" sorta speak. Only my $.02 worth and probably does not amount to a hill of beans.

Later
[Preface: I gather someone was uncomfortable enough to complain about the overall tone of the discussions (political discussions?) going on here in the Coffee Shop. It wasn't me]. :D

I really do agree with ctclibby here (I think), and FWIW. It's true that in the few other hobby-type forums I used to frequent (all of those are sim-racing forums) part of the forum rules was almost always "No Politics!" It wasn't much a problem anyway, as we had EU types, who generally espoused views that were what I would call "left-of-center," middle of the road folks (who, more than most, tend to avoid the subject anyway), and conservatives, aka "right-of-center," and more often likely to be US based. Everyone understood the lay of the land, and it didn't cause drivers to avoid interacting with one another as far as I know.

It was the people toward the two ends of the spectrum who were more likely to get wound up about things, and personalities who focus too much on things that get them "riled up" are generally pretty unbalanced behind the wheel. In sim-racing, we call it "The Red Mist." When you start to lose your sense of balance and emotional control...that's when the red mist comes down over your eyes.....and you almost always do something stupid when it does.

If you let the red mist envelope you...you are off the track. Into the wall, and out of the race. If you are going to be any good at the sport, you have to learn to control your emotions, and thinking too much about politics ISN'T going to do anything but make you slow.

But sim-racing is a competitive sport too--we had that outlet if frustrated or angered--and we had a lot of members. Model railroading, and this forum--these forums--are quite small by comparison. And perhaps more fragile because of that, I suspect. So, and in an effort to keep this a welcoming place, I DO understand why there is that admonition against discussions of politics.

That said, and if I were to join this forum again, I wouldn't hesitate for a moment. Everyone here is helpful when they can be, will tell you when they can't be, or why they need more info from you to answer or help...or when they have exhausted their knowledge. There might be a bit of politics here and there, but it doesn't affect--or infect--any of the other forums at all, IMO. Nor even this thread--to the extent there is a bit of politics, it does not make even this coffee shop an uncomfortable place to be.

Just my two cents.

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There is also a LOT to be said, too, for having a place--even it's just this one thread--where members who share interest in this hobby might also explore other similarities they have in common too, and how they mesh with the others...or don't. If they do, then maybe the coffee shop is a comfortable place to visit. If not, there is no requirement that anyone do so. Thus, and the way I see it, if there is one thread more open to politics and political discussion than the others...its not a problem. If the thread doesn't suit you, that's fine. Don't go in. That's why the remote has a channel changer...and even an off button.

I've turned off the NFL. MLB, and certainly the NBA (!!!) in recent years. If answering questions about "why" I've done that is considered overly political to the point I couldn't answer the question, then I would argue things are just far too politicized these days. Walk them back if you are overdoing it when you have the soapbox? Maybe yes. But I have yet to see anything that would bother me in here. FYI.

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All that said, I, myself, approach this as I might any other coffee shop. I see a few guys I know (some more than others) and maybe some I agree with (more than others) gathered 'round a table. Get a cup, go over, sit down and say "Good morning 'gents <nod>"...and then listen to what's going on, as far as subject, views, agreements of opinion...or disagreements of opinion. Then chime in or not. Maybe just finish my coffee and head out. Me? I offer up a joke, usually not on point, but that's just me--always last to get the memo, and usually last to understand the subject. :D

If THIS coffee shop...and its discussions and subject matter...make someone uncomfortable...well, just...leave. But don't leave the forums, and don't leave this website. Just maybe the thread.

Change the channel--that's what the remote is for. Or chime in, even if you are outnumbered twenty to one. A little combat can be fun on occasion--witness the gaming/action figures.

Compared to almost any other I have visited, this is a VERY accepting website and forum(s), IMO, as most people do realize it's the model railroading which is the glue that keeps it all together. I've seen not a single example here, in any of the forums, which suggest otherwise. Nor do I think I will.

Added back in: Please don't leave [these forums] even if something said here bothers you. We are all the better for you being here. And even if we might not agree about all things
 
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Please don't leave. We are all the better for you being here. Even if we might not agree about all things ... (edited to remove all caps-Troy)


[Gee. I have never used caps as much as I just did right there. Go figure]
Since CapsLoc is considered YELLING, I hereby grant you your
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Membership card.

Meetings are every third Tuesday. No dues, just shake your fist at the sky every time you see a cloud.

;)
 
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I switched the phrase in my quote of it over to normal text for you. That one line is important, and I agree whole heartedly about it.

Going forward, I'd suggest we keep politicians out of the discussion. No mentions of names or euphemisms. Just discuss the underlying issues (AKA Solar tech). Bringing in the politicos is where we start stepping on each other's toes. And, that becomes an obvious example of politics being disucssed.
 
I switched the phrase in my quote of it over to normal text for you. That one line is important, and I agree whole heartedly about it.

Going forward, I'd suggest we keep politicians out of the discussion. No mentions of names or euphemisms. Just discuss the underlying issues (AKA Solar tech). Bringing in the politicos is where we start stepping on each other's toes. And, that becomes an obvious example of politics being disucssed.
Roger Wilco, as best I can. Slap me upside the head if I forget it.
 
Good Morning All from Gulf Shores AL where it is mostly clear and 71°. I don't have a hurricane status report yet as my wife is still asleep and the TV is not on. Yesterday, it appeared to be taking a more easterly track away from us. Windy with intermittent light rain seems to be the forecast.

I miss my desktop computer. This laptop is hard for me to use, even though I have a mouse for it. Keys are too sensitive and I absolutely hate this touchpad, which I accidently touch and it sends me off to another world. I am using the camera itself as an external drive, which is inconvenient at best. Plus some of the keys are in different places which confuses me. Additionally, my wife does not have AdBlock on here and has not turned off the mostly annoying extra features of Win10. I also miss my 21" screen.

Yesterday we went to the zoo here. It's not real big and does have limited animals. No elephants, gorillas, hippos, rhinos or baboons among other things. They did replace their lion who died of cancer a couple of years ago, with two others. Today the plan is to drive north to Foley AL, about ten miles. They have a railroad museum there with a rather large O scale model RR layout. There's also a medical museum there that's on our list.

Meanwhile here's a few pictures of the Mississippi Coast Model Railroad Museum in Gulfport MS that we went to Sunday.
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Besides model trains, they have a bunch of Lego stuff, that past Coffee Shop regular Beady would like. One of their layouts.
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The Titanic.
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Here's one for Troy...a gaming table!
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And trains in all scales.
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That's it for now, wife wants to use her laptop for a bit instead of her tablet, something about a bigger screen for a bit.
Everyone have a great day, I'll be back, just don't know when.
 


All that said, I, myself, approach this as I might any other coffee shop. ...
Good summary Snowman.
I moderated on a motorcycle forum some 15 years ago. Politics found their way in there quite often. The posters could pretty much manage themselves in the discussions of why this was going on or what that issue was about, but when one of the fringe believers got involved, ya better believe what they presume or else the name calling started. Being a mod, I also saw who was hammering the report button too. Consistently the fringe believers. On that forum, the political section was accessed specifically to discuss politics, so those who didn't want to participate didn't have to go there.
So yeah, the emotions flow when politics are brought up. For some, it will break down to tears in the eyes, clenched fists, seething spit and threats of violence. I went through an episode with my sister who lives up in Minneapolis many years ago. The topic was abortion. The topic became more and more heated as I wasn't accepting her perspective of the issue. Eventually she was dropping the F bombs and vile epitaphs. I asked her to set those aside and stay with the facts, but she continued on with the assumptions of my eating preferences and other habits. I had to cut it off there. She called several times over the following weeks to try to convince me through vile comments and more assumptions how her perspective was the only acceptable choice. Finally just quit answering her calls. She resorted to text and emails but I just dumped those without reading. No sense in it because her approach was established.
Long story shortened, politics can be discussed but when the few who just can't understand that everyone has a personal view for a reason, they get their way by shutting down the entire exchange of what could have been a good discussion.
 
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