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Running Bear's October 2022 Coffee Shop
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It's the same with the trestles, if they have steel girders in them.
We have two rail bridges in this area. The one in town is a painted black truss bridge, and the newer mill bridge don't count, as it's a concrete structure.
I can't remember ever seeing an unpainted bridge. From now on, I'll be paying more attention, though.
Just for the sake of posting a photo on this 2nd post of the day.
There was a very pleasant, peaceful mood in the air on this morning's dog walk. Except, the dog still hates squirrels.:
Have a great day!
So, I went to the railphotos.com site and found these. The photographers are credited on each picture.
NS reporting marks 113300-113499 were built by Trinity in 3/98 for NS. They are described as Centerbeams
Great pictures James and I love the bridge rust. I have a bridge from Central Valley to assemble someday for a buddy that wants it real rusty. I now believe you have supplied me the prototype rust effects he is interested in.
Excellent! Thanks for finding these pictures! Very cool! I wonder if any other RR companies have them or just NS? I will look.....
Thanks Tom!
I'm not an expert, and the Economics I studied in college has long fallen by the wayside of "Modern Economic Theory", but my take on energy independence:
America has always been energy independent. We have more energy, than meets our needs. More than we can possibly consume. In fact, we are and have been "Net Energy Exporters". What do you think all those Coal trains to Newport News, Lamberts Point, Consol Curtis bay, Consol Canton etc. carry? Predominately, Export Coal. We export crude oil to Europe, Asia, and other countries, in some cases we export it to have it refined and then re-import it to distribute and consume refined oil products. We just don't want to pay Americans to refine it , or be regulated by government while refining oil domestically. We trade in international markets, and allow traders and speculators to set the price for oil, both crude and refined products.
Our domestic refining capacity has drastically fallen over the last 42 years. I saw this during my railroad career. Refineries no longer operate, in South Philadelphia (Gulf and ARCO), Marcus Hook, PA (Sun Oil), Texaco (National Park, NJ), Chevron, Perth Amboy, Hess, Port Reading, or ESSO, Bayone, NJ....and no doubt, a host of other locations nationwide. All this was done to contain or cut the cost of operations, in response to Wall Street Investment Bankers, looking for a larger ROI.
My understanding, about the "pipeline" was that this was oil, from Alberta, that was intended to connect with other pipelines to take this oil to Gulf Ports for Export...not for Domestic use.
As with everything else, there is more to this story than what is in plain site. I spent a good part of my working life involved in the energy food train, and I'm only scraping the surface of this quagmire.
It's my garden area that I allowed to return to nature this last year. That was 5 hours worth of work. With no real rain in 3 months it was dry and hard packed. I bought a cultivator in July, that couldn't break it up. I had to spade it, then 2 tanks of gas through it to break it up finer. Raked a bunch of the buffalo grass and it's runners out.
I have a page at home with personal passwords and a small notebook at work with over 15 work related passwords and user names.
I made a simple slip of paper for my wife's passwords which she threw away. Didn't think we needed it. When I did need it luckily I remembered her gmail password (I made it using a formula) so wrote that down on paper saying KEEP.
Well, that paper is gone now so I think I will put all hers on my page. I have never liked the Password/Username thing and for that reason avoid a lot of stuff that calls for that.
Oil: We have as much as we need but there is so much of that free money still out there eating it up that those of us with more limited resources are being squeezed out. When people want and need to work but cannot afford the car, gas, or rent, something is seriously wrong. That is where we are in America today.
However, I am away from home from 5:45 AM till 4:45 PM and my wife wants me home more. Impossible to move with real estate as crazy as it is, and our mortgage is only at 3.25%.
Also, the wear and tear on the car/truck is gonna cost me. It is a balancing act, however if I get into a crash with a deer or otherwise that will be the deciding factor.
My son leaves tomorrow for a year's tour of duty with the 2ND ID in Korea. They have been there as a tripwire, for 72 continuous years, irrespective of economic conditions. Meanwhile, South Korea, under our umbrella, is the world's largest manufacturer of electronics, and holds American industry hostage for chips needed to manufacture cars, while they also have cars to export here to alleviate the shortage...
Something is radically wrong here.....Same with Oil Cartels and our "love for" Saudi Arabia.... Why do we keep screwing ourselves??????
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McLeod
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As far as I know, all of the rail-bridges in my area are painted black, and the automobile bridges are painted light green, blue, or aluminumnum.
It's the same with the trestles, if they have steel girders in them.
We have two rail bridges in this area. The one in town is a painted black truss bridge, and the newer mill bridge don't count, as it's a concrete structure.
I can't remember ever seeing an unpainted bridge. From now on, I'll be paying more attention, though.
Just for the sake of posting a photo on this 2nd post of the day.
There was a very pleasant, peaceful mood in the air on this morning's dog walk. Except, the dog still hates squirrels.:
Have a great day!
santafewillie
Same Ol' Buzzard
Well the estate sale was a bust as the "family" withdrew the trains. Good thing that I had other errands to do as well.
Todd - I am aware of how estate sales work especially when a professional company is brought in like this one. I also know the real value of train articles, so I wasn't going to be shorted. They actually had four Tyco cars on a random table by the door for $2.50 @, which while that is more than I would offer, was a fair price for the uninitiated.
Investments - I do not invest in cryptocurrency, and never will. To me it's an investment in nothing. No physical assets, no inventory, no employees, NOTHING! The only ones getting any return on Bitcoin are those who got in back in the beginning when they could be bought for $1K each. I watched as it went to $60K+, and now back down to $20K. It certainly isn't a hedge against inflation as the so called "experts" preach. Maybe someday???
As others have pointed out, there is some risk in stocks, but they always come back. I lost far more in 2008-2009 than I have this year, but by 2011, it all had come back and then some. Then the first two Trump years stocks exploded and then leveled off.
Oil - Yes, the Keystone Pipeline was just a shortcut for an existing pipeline that is still operational. As such, it wasn't going to be operational for a while longer, but I don't remember the date. The dirty, heavy crude that it would carry is normally refined for plastics and road surfaces, not gasoline or jet fuel. That heavy crude had been coming from Venezuela. Refining light crude into plastics is counterproductive, just as refining heavy crude into gasoline is.
Ken (D&J) - I went through a similar ordeal with Social Security Administration yesterday, where the website didn't recognize me. After numerous attempts, I was shut down because I made too many attempts to log on.
Alan - Fortunately I am down only 4.5% this year, but I cannot delay retirement as I am already retired. 2008 did delay retirement by 3 years though.
Todd - I am aware of how estate sales work especially when a professional company is brought in like this one. I also know the real value of train articles, so I wasn't going to be shorted. They actually had four Tyco cars on a random table by the door for $2.50 @, which while that is more than I would offer, was a fair price for the uninitiated.
Investments - I do not invest in cryptocurrency, and never will. To me it's an investment in nothing. No physical assets, no inventory, no employees, NOTHING! The only ones getting any return on Bitcoin are those who got in back in the beginning when they could be bought for $1K each. I watched as it went to $60K+, and now back down to $20K. It certainly isn't a hedge against inflation as the so called "experts" preach. Maybe someday???
As others have pointed out, there is some risk in stocks, but they always come back. I lost far more in 2008-2009 than I have this year, but by 2011, it all had come back and then some. Then the first two Trump years stocks exploded and then leveled off.
Oil - Yes, the Keystone Pipeline was just a shortcut for an existing pipeline that is still operational. As such, it wasn't going to be operational for a while longer, but I don't remember the date. The dirty, heavy crude that it would carry is normally refined for plastics and road surfaces, not gasoline or jet fuel. That heavy crude had been coming from Venezuela. Refining light crude into plastics is counterproductive, just as refining heavy crude into gasoline is.
Ken (D&J) - I went through a similar ordeal with Social Security Administration yesterday, where the website didn't recognize me. After numerous attempts, I was shut down because I made too many attempts to log on.
Alan - Fortunately I am down only 4.5% this year, but I cannot delay retirement as I am already retired. 2008 did delay retirement by 3 years though.
There may have been something going on more widespreadly (?), since I encountered the same issue trying to log in to my health insurance provider's website.
santafewillie
Same Ol' Buzzard
Hmmmh! Interesting.
montanan
Whiskey Merchant
Going to make it quick today. The shoulder still hurts like hell and from past experience with the same procedure that I had done on the right shoulder, it will be a few weeks before the pain will subside. It doesn't take very long sitting at the computer for the shoulder to let me know that I am pretty well done on the computer.
James - like your photos. The Mud color was one of my favorites for weathering.
Willie - Excellent work on the sign. I ws just starting to get into making some custom signs when I had to tear down the layout. Enjoy seeing your photos.
Todd - Most estate sales unfortunately expect full retail prices on the equipment that very few have a clue as to how much trains are worth. Got a few things I need from Kalispell if you haven't left yet.
Dave - Great photo. I remember seeing that one as it is one of my favorites.
Ken - I have this thing about passwords not working. I had issues with an American Express card Iwas using to gasoline when I wnt to Texas to pick up a dachshund. A number of gas pumps wanted a pin number FOR A CREDIT CARD. Spent hours on the phone, wrote down all of the password info not only for the credit card, but also to get onto the USAA web site. I am ready to change insurance companies because it is a flippin nightmare trying to get on the web site. I have been calling and talking to a real person. I can see why they need security, but it would be nice if their customers could use it.
Heard from Sherrel, his surgery went well and he is expecting to go home today but seems to like his nurse.
A couple of quick photos from the archive
The shoulder says it's time to go.
Later
James - like your photos. The Mud color was one of my favorites for weathering.
Willie - Excellent work on the sign. I ws just starting to get into making some custom signs when I had to tear down the layout. Enjoy seeing your photos.
Todd - Most estate sales unfortunately expect full retail prices on the equipment that very few have a clue as to how much trains are worth. Got a few things I need from Kalispell if you haven't left yet.
Dave - Great photo. I remember seeing that one as it is one of my favorites.
Ken - I have this thing about passwords not working. I had issues with an American Express card Iwas using to gasoline when I wnt to Texas to pick up a dachshund. A number of gas pumps wanted a pin number FOR A CREDIT CARD. Spent hours on the phone, wrote down all of the password info not only for the credit card, but also to get onto the USAA web site. I am ready to change insurance companies because it is a flippin nightmare trying to get on the web site. I have been calling and talking to a real person. I can see why they need security, but it would be nice if their customers could use it.
Heard from Sherrel, his surgery went well and he is expecting to go home today but seems to like his nurse.
A couple of quick photos from the archive
The shoulder says it's time to go.
Later
Boris
Beach Bum
Gary: Runs very well, quiet when sound is off, very slow without stalling, when desired, Great detail, summary = very pleased.
TLOC
Well-Known Member
James, The best answer I would guess is bulkhead flats with a Centerbeam. Marble or limestone carriers!So I stopped once again on the way home and got theses shots. This is a bridge that crosses the Upper Hudson River in Stillwater NY. It is an old D&H line now run by CSX. I have a question for ya'll. There is a flat car LOW centerbeam with post on the outside. Grey in color road name Norfolk Southern. What is this used for? I was thinkingslabs of granite or slate I am not sure.....???
Also notice the black gondola.... Reading & Northern.....
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Great pictures James and I love the bridge rust. I have a bridge from Central Valley to assemble someday for a buddy that wants it real rusty. I now believe you have supplied me the prototype rust effects he is interested in.
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Boris
Beach Bum
Must be something in the air...notice from CC provider, e-statement is available, log on to site, need to "update" password, select old password to access proper page. Make up new password following specific guidelines, confirm new password, press change...prompt says cannot change PW at this time...try later. Try two separate times after, same result 1st, locked out 2nd. Next day twice more same result. Finally, what happens when Ipress pay bill? Asks me for log on name. I enter, immediately gain access...download statement, log off...we will see what happens next month....
Alcomotive
Grandson of an ALCO Builder
Excellent! Thanks for finding these pictures! Very cool! I wonder if any other RR companies have them or just NS? I will look.....
Thanks Tom!
Patrick
What, me worry?
Afternoon all,
Was a busy morning for me. Cooler temps allowed me to get this done:
Sorry for the fuzzy right side. I took it out the bedroom window. It looked like the yard around it when I started. I've got to mow later and I'm going to work the fresh clippings in. May be a mistake, but I'll have all winter to break down. I will say it's the first time it's been that loose.
Willie: for 6 weeks the wife is 3 years older. She's taking it in January after she turns 64.
Was a busy morning for me. Cooler temps allowed me to get this done:
Sorry for the fuzzy right side. I took it out the bedroom window. It looked like the yard around it when I started. I've got to mow later and I'm going to work the fresh clippings in. May be a mistake, but I'll have all winter to break down. I will say it's the first time it's been that loose.
Willie: for 6 weeks the wife is 3 years older. She's taking it in January after she turns 64.
D&J RailRoad
Professor of HO
dang, who did ya bury?
Boris
Beach Bum
Sure is, and the path through the discussion, is loaded with pitfalls and mine fields, and much misinformation.
I'm not an expert, and the Economics I studied in college has long fallen by the wayside of "Modern Economic Theory", but my take on energy independence:
America has always been energy independent. We have more energy, than meets our needs. More than we can possibly consume. In fact, we are and have been "Net Energy Exporters". What do you think all those Coal trains to Newport News, Lamberts Point, Consol Curtis bay, Consol Canton etc. carry? Predominately, Export Coal. We export crude oil to Europe, Asia, and other countries, in some cases we export it to have it refined and then re-import it to distribute and consume refined oil products. We just don't want to pay Americans to refine it , or be regulated by government while refining oil domestically. We trade in international markets, and allow traders and speculators to set the price for oil, both crude and refined products.
Our domestic refining capacity has drastically fallen over the last 42 years. I saw this during my railroad career. Refineries no longer operate, in South Philadelphia (Gulf and ARCO), Marcus Hook, PA (Sun Oil), Texaco (National Park, NJ), Chevron, Perth Amboy, Hess, Port Reading, or ESSO, Bayone, NJ....and no doubt, a host of other locations nationwide. All this was done to contain or cut the cost of operations, in response to Wall Street Investment Bankers, looking for a larger ROI.
My understanding, about the "pipeline" was that this was oil, from Alberta, that was intended to connect with other pipelines to take this oil to Gulf Ports for Export...not for Domestic use.
As with everything else, there is more to this story than what is in plain site. I spent a good part of my working life involved in the energy food train, and I'm only scraping the surface of this quagmire.
TLOC
Well-Known Member
I should have included this page NS and one other
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Patrick
What, me worry?
The last guy who asked who I buried!!!
It's my garden area that I allowed to return to nature this last year. That was 5 hours worth of work. With no real rain in 3 months it was dry and hard packed. I bought a cultivator in July, that couldn't break it up. I had to spade it, then 2 tanks of gas through it to break it up finer. Raked a bunch of the buffalo grass and it's runners out.
logandsawman
Northern Pacific history enthusiast
Passwords:
I have a page at home with personal passwords and a small notebook at work with over 15 work related passwords and user names.
I made a simple slip of paper for my wife's passwords which she threw away. Didn't think we needed it. When I did need it luckily I remembered her gmail password (I made it using a formula) so wrote that down on paper saying KEEP.
Well, that paper is gone now so I think I will put all hers on my page. I have never liked the Password/Username thing and for that reason avoid a lot of stuff that calls for that.
Oil: We have as much as we need but there is so much of that free money still out there eating it up that those of us with more limited resources are being squeezed out. When people want and need to work but cannot afford the car, gas, or rent, something is seriously wrong. That is where we are in America today.
Boris
Beach Bum
We really won't know that the market has hit it's bottom until about a year after the insiders make that determination. The biggest advantage of postponing retirement is that you continue to build up your future retirement income. The key question is whether your body can withstand the added abuse it gets while you continue to work. That's a question only you can answer for yourself. Personally, I now feel that I should have waited two more years before retiring, but that's with the benefit of hindsight. Back in 2008, I was at my limit, and all I wanted was Out!
logandsawman
Northern Pacific history enthusiast
my biggest problem is getting to work. Once there, everything is fine. I have a nice office and desk and the people here are honest working folks.
However, I am away from home from 5:45 AM till 4:45 PM and my wife wants me home more. Impossible to move with real estate as crazy as it is, and our mortgage is only at 3.25%.
Also, the wear and tear on the car/truck is gonna cost me. It is a balancing act, however if I get into a crash with a deer or otherwise that will be the deciding factor.
Boris
Beach Bum
When you consider the type of people in charge of countries like Russia, China, North Korea etc, your fears are real. OTOH, none of these repressive countries defines their economy quite the way the West does. Something to be said for authoritarian countries. Their populations are only a means to an end. When you stop and think about it, we have been in a continuous state of war or conflict since 1939, with brief interludes.
My son leaves tomorrow for a year's tour of duty with the 2ND ID in Korea. They have been there as a tripwire, for 72 continuous years, irrespective of economic conditions. Meanwhile, South Korea, under our umbrella, is the world's largest manufacturer of electronics, and holds American industry hostage for chips needed to manufacture cars, while they also have cars to export here to alleviate the shortage...
Something is radically wrong here.....Same with Oil Cartels and our "love for" Saudi Arabia.... Why do we keep screwing ourselves??????
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PRR Modeler
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Afternoon All,
Started out with chores as usual. Up in the train room was another good day for me.
I soldered wires that needed it then started hooking them up to the board and power regulator. With fingers crossed I started up the layout and everything came on as expected. After breaking for lunch I started adjusting the IR sensors. To my delight none of the sensors needed adjustment.
. I finished up by bundling up the rat's nest of wires then attaching a wood fascia guard for the bridge (would prefer plexiglass).
Thank you for the photo likes yesterday.
James- I was actually thinking the tank cylinders and curved caps.
Gary- Happy Thanksgiving.
Troy- I hope you are continuing to improve.
Dave- Thank you. Poor skunk.
Nice layout shot.
bigfoot- Nice modeling.
Jeff- I hate to agree with you but I do. I think a lot of what's going on in the world is similar to the run up to WWII. This time I see Russia, China, Iran, and N. Korea working together.
Guy- Beautiful scenery.
Chet- Great news about Sherrel. Great layout scenes.
TomO- Interesting 1:1 rail cars.
In the interest of honesty, the bottom aspect is fixed.
I hope everyone has a good night.
Started out with chores as usual. Up in the train room was another good day for me.
I soldered wires that needed it then started hooking them up to the board and power regulator. With fingers crossed I started up the layout and everything came on as expected. After breaking for lunch I started adjusting the IR sensors. To my delight none of the sensors needed adjustment.. I finished up by bundling up the rat's nest of wires then attaching a wood fascia guard for the bridge (would prefer plexiglass).Thank you for the photo likes yesterday.
James- I was actually thinking the tank cylinders and curved caps.
Gary- Happy Thanksgiving.
Troy- I hope you are continuing to improve.
Dave- Thank you. Poor skunk.
Nice layout shot.bigfoot- Nice modeling.
Jeff- I hate to agree with you but I do. I think a lot of what's going on in the world is similar to the run up to WWII. This time I see Russia, China, Iran, and N. Korea working together.
Guy- Beautiful scenery.
Chet- Great news about Sherrel. Great layout scenes.
TomO- Interesting 1:1 rail cars.
In the interest of honesty, the bottom aspect is fixed.
I hope everyone has a good night.
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