Running Bear's July 2022 Coffee Shop

[logandsawman]

A local farmer told me, ya don't use manuer from the animal that you're growing the crop for. That includes humans. Disease can be passed that way.

Ken -

having grown up on a farm and in a farm community, the manure from our animals always ended up on our fields. Pretty much how it works. However, I have heard that you don't want human waste on food humans are eating.

One of the big benefits of the manure is the organic matter added to the field, as much as the nutrients.

Dave

 

[JeffH]

I always heard that you shouldn't use waste from a carnivore or omnivore. Only herbivore manure is what I always heard. No clue if there is any truth to that...

 

[ctclibby]

You on I 69 or I65? I'm two hours north of Indy off I-69 (Fort Wayne)? I'm guessing 65, since you can still, barely be in Indiana 3 hours north.

Troy - sorry been busy, was at I65 mm201 @ petro. Took them almost 8 hours to get us to Louisville.

 

[PRR Modeler]

Afternoon All,

Started out putting A&I on the ground cover and a second coat around the tracks. I figured out where I'm going to place 6 light poles around the mine. I went through my buildings from my last layout and decided that the FOS Preston Printers would work. It's a bit large for a single mine so I'm saying it is the HQ for both mines (same company owns both). Of course this will require a road, parking lot and 2 track crossings. Very little fireworks here last night.

Thanks for the photo likes yesterday.

Joe- Not having enough room is the bane of model railroaders.

Karl- The floor a Desmond look good.

Dave- Yes they're foot paths. When everything is in place they should make sense. The blob between the tracks will have a small structure (in mail).

Willie- Live and learn.

Guy- I thought you were further along with your layout.

I hope everyone has a good night.

 

[chadbag]

having grown up on a farm and in a farm community, the manure from our animals always ended up on our fields. Pretty much how it works. However, I have heard that you don't want human waste on food humans are eating.

What I've heard to and one of the problems they have in some parts of the world, where human waste is used on fields. Places like rural India. I saw a documentary on it a year ago and their efforts to convince the locals not to do that.

Saying that, when I was a kid, there was a family in our church congregation, where the father was an engineer or scientist at some company where they were working on a process to recycle human waste and turn it into a (safe) fertilizer. They had these stacks of this brownish/gray carboard looking stuff around their house, one time when they invited me over for an overnighter or two (they lived on a lake). The dad explained to me that it was human waste that had been treated to be safe and non-disease carrying; to be used as fertilizer. Don't know what happened to the project. This was late 70s or early 80s.

 

[ctclibby]

Afternoon All,

Started with some inside chores then headed to the train room. I started out laying down blue painters tape for where the gravel path will be. That took about 90 minues then after lunch I put down the first layer of ground cover (dirt) around the mine area. That took about 2 hours with sore legs and knees from leaning over the layout on a step stool. Fun times.

Thank you for all the photo likes yesterday. I was kinda surprised since it was pretty sparse.

Terry- I thought you lived in MD.

Louis- Sounds like a great party. Sorry to miss it.

Todd- I hope you get your new truck quickly. I think you said it had 98k miles on it already. How long will a semi last for?

Dave- I'm glad you got your electrical figured out. That wiring isn't bad. Mine wasn't bad untill I started with lighting and now it looks like a snake pit. Nice progress on the layout.

Joe- Thank you. The B&O photo is very nice.

Willie- Great scenes. I really like the Uncle Tony's sign.

Troy- People are jerks.

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I hope everyone has a good night.

Semi age - that depends. 1 - service, service, service. 2 - do not ride hard then put away wet? 1st one we got from Pegasus was a 16 with 3 or 4 thousands miles on it. When we got off it, it had over 500K. No major problems. Suspect that it went an additional 500K. When they get 1M miles things start to fall apart. Diesel, interaxel and drive train are usually is rock solid, all the plastic stuff does not survive. This all depends on how you drive them. For instance - jakes instead of brakes, stay on hard pavement, proper cool down after running ...etc. I use the word jakes whereas we have engine retarders which use air injected into cylinders and allow that to slow ya, instead of piping exhaust into brake air system; less noise also.

 

[ctclibby]

I hate to break it to you guys, but talking to your self is a sign of intelligence.

Talking to Yourself is a Sign of a Higher Intelligence – Ran's Passion Blog

Why talking to yourself is the first sign of… success

A London dentist stopped looking in other people’s mouths and started opening his own. The results may be something for everyone to chew on

www.bbc.com

Science Says People Who Talk To Themselves Are Geniuses - LifeHack

I talk a lot to myself. It helps me to keep my concentration on the activity on hand, makes me focus more on my studies, and gives me some pretty

www.lifehack.org

It is ok to talk to yourself, well as long as you don't ask yourself "what?"

 

[JeffH]

What I've heard to and one of the problems they have in some parts of the world, where human waste is used on fields. Places like rural India. I saw a documentary on it a year ago and their efforts to convince the locals not to do that.

Saying that, when I was a kid, there was a family in our church congregation, where the father was an engineer or scientist at some company where they were working on a process to recycle human waste and turn it into a (safe) fertilizer. They had these stacks of this brownish/gray carboard looking stuff around their house, one time when they invited me over for an overnighter or two (they lived on a lake). The dad explained to me that it was human waste that had been treated to be safe and non-disease carrying; to be used as fertilizer. Don't know what happened to the project. This was late 70s or early 80s.

Hmmm... back around 20 years or so ago, a local county seat's "Water Reclamation Department" was supposedly the only installation (outside of Europe) of a wastewater treatment facility that essentially microwaved sewage, reclaiming the water vapor in the process of turning the ... waste... into a charcoal like substance that was supposedly good for fertilizer... I'll have to do some research to see if that is really true.

 

[logandsawman]

I always heard that you shouldn't use waste from a carnivore or omnivore. Only herbivore manure is what I always heard. No clue if there is any truth to that...

no truth to that

 

[JeffH]

no truth to that

Yeah... wouldn't surprise me if all that was started as yet another reason for local crop farmers to poo poo (pun intended) on the hog farms, lol.

 

[ctclibby]

Good afternoon all!
56F in Libby.
90F in Groveport, OH.
Got back to Louisville and found out we could not get the 22 we though we had. Gave us choices of 4 other trucks on the lot. Each one had problems and needed help, couple big help. Big boss happened to be following our issues and my big mouth kinda helped us out when I said something like "ok, you have no trucks that are suitable, so we will go down the road and find one". That got his attention. Hense the pix. 2021 with 98K. Everyone thought it was a 22 for reasons unknown.

All the wanted and unwanted bells and whistles. The one that is most scary is that it will guide you down the hiway bouncing ( sort of ) between the fog line and center line. You do not have to touch the wheel for quite awhile. Navigates around S curves too. Yes, it does complain and pops up a little "hands on the steering wheel" message in the center of the console, but does not turn off. I have a light touch on the wheel when just cruising so I get that all of the time. It does turn off when the lines are gone without beeping at ya, so that could be an issue too. The front looking radar is better than the 20 and it does not give you false positives ... Cone people, overhead signs and such, and it takes a little longer to slow ya when there is something directly in front moving slower than you are. Wether that is a good thing or not, who knows? In any event, it should get us to the end of Oct or Nov just fine.
I think that it can be seen where they are trying to go. Right now the tech is not there and a warm body is needed. I don't feel like a truck driver anymore as all most all of the stuff that keeps you busy is being handled by embedded processors. Next will be tattle-cam setting your speed using speed signs alone the way. It already tells on ya when you slowly roll a stop sign, or you are following to close. Then ya get a text and call from Mike having to explain yourself. The text includes a short muvee that you can watch ... Call it evidence.
Did a good one a couple weeks ago while I was getting on I64. There was a necked down construction zone on the ramp. At the bottom were 2 class 1A stop signs, one on each side of the ramp. Had a truck in front of me so I did not see them ( they were on the ground, not the normal height ). Truck in front blasted through as there was 0 traffic. Low and behold there was a State Patrol sitting next to the one on the right; I blasted by also. The next day Maria got a call from Mike as she had rolled a stop sign and after she was done talking to him, I grabbed the phone and asked " what happens if you blow a stop sign a 60+Mph? ". Got a giggle, then explained what had happened. He said he would watch for it. Guess that Tattle-cam needs the sign at the proper height so he did not get the vid clip. Oh forgot, the Stater did not move.

 

[D&J RailRoad]

That's really great to know that semis have hands free processors. I would imagine somewhere along the line they will develop a processor that will tell ya who it was that ya ran over.

 

[Jaz avalley]

Tom O & Willie- when friends & family asked why I moved up here, I jokingly said, “Wisconsin doesn’t get hurricanes”. I moved up here 2 months before Sandy & went back to back up a trailer the weekend after Sandy hit(delayed a week, because my buddy from Toledo who helped me load up, took the wrong weekend off of work).

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I just went past this again, you know, you might have thought they could have had one good looking or fit bloke, now I know age takes a toll on all

I hate to break it to you guys, but talking to your self is a sign of intelligence.

Talking to Yourself is a Sign of a Higher Intelligence – Ran's Passion Blog

Why talking to yourself is the first sign of… success

A London dentist stopped looking in other people’s mouths and started opening his own. The results may be something for everyone to chew on

www.bbc.com

Science Says People Who Talk To Themselves Are Geniuses - LifeHack

I talk a lot to myself. It helps me to keep my concentration on the activity on hand, makes me focus more on my studies, and gives me some pretty

www.lifehack.org

talking to yourself involves both sides of the brain,but it also veers towards multiple personality and personality disorder, people have a habit of talking to themselves when they feel no one bothers to listen to them, when they need someone to agree with them, talking out aloud is not necessarily talking to yourself though, sonetimes verbalising chores is a way your brain ticks off the steps. I personally would discourage talking to one self in young children just in case it leads to multiple ‘ split personality issues.

 

[chadbag]

I've been talking to myself since I was a kid. I verbalize (quietly) different thought processes and will also rehearse conversations I expect to have beforehand or hypothetical ones (that won't really happen) based on whatever I am doing or what stress I am under at the moment. I also will rehearse the arguments for and against a position that is front and center at the moment.

My kids laugh at me when they pick up on it.

It is just a way to work through argumentation, or various thought paths, etc.

 

[MikeInHubCity]

I've been talking to myself since I was a kid. I verbalize (quietly) different thought processes and will also rehearse conversations I expect to have beforehand or hypothetical ones (that won't really happen) based on whatever I am doing or what stress I am under at the moment. I also will rehearse the arguments for and against a position that is front and center at the moment.

My kids laugh at me when they pick up on it.

It is just a way to work through argumentation, or various thought paths, etc.

It’s not talking to yourself or even arguing with yourself, but losing the argument that is what you’re truly crazy.

 

[OBTC 1909]

Willie: Just letting nature take it's course. I went to work today, although I did wear a mask outside my office. In my office I left it on the desk. The mask may or may not help anything but I do it anyway.

 

[troyphoto]

I've been talking to myself since I was a kid. I verbalize (quietly) different thought processes and will also rehearse conversations I expect to have beforehand or hypothetical ones (that won't really happen) based on whatever I am doing or what stress I am under at the moment. I also will rehearse the arguments for and against a position that is front and center at the moment.

My kids laugh at me when they pick up on it.

It is just a way to work through argumentation, or various thought paths, etc.

This! ^^^^^

Exactly. I'm always rehearsing a potential conversation.

Just like I'm looking for exits on an airplane.

Had to take something back to the store today, and lost the receipt. Rehearsed the polite "I need to speak to a manager" in case the counter person gave me grief. They can't change policy, but the manager can. Rehearsal lets me get my polite yet firm words down before the situation occurs.

It went fine in this case, no manager required. Rehearsal helped me keep my zen state, and not have a hissy ready to burst out.

And in other news... plumbers come out tomorrow to replace the water lines, and hook up this bad boy:

Look ma! I made the hole just about right. No major recuts or swearing.

Measured about 5 times! No measure twice, curse thrice here.

 

[kbkchooch]

On the subject of manure, growing up we always spread ours wherever it was needed. Didn't matter if it was chicken, hog, cow or horse poop, it all got spread.
Always wore a hooded jacket with a ball cap under it driving the spreader, cuz occasionally a meadow muffin would hit the impellers and instead of going up and out, it would come forward! I didn't run the spreader much, I preferred to run the loader while my cousins drove the spreaders.

 

[chadbag]

Always wore a hooded jacket with a ball cap under it driving the spreader, cuz occasionally a meadow muffin would hit the impellers and instead of going up and out, it would come forward! I didn't run the spreader much, I preferred to run the loader while my cousins drove the spreaders.

When I lived in Germany 86-87, we'd see the farmers out on their tractors spreading the manure. They would liquify it or mix it with water and then spray it with a nozzle on the back of the tank trailer. It sure smelled to high heavens when they were out doing it along the country roads.

 

[Smudge617]

When I lived in Germany 86-87, we'd see the farmers out on their tractors spreading the manure. They would liquify it or mix it with water and then spray it with a nozzle on the back of the tank trailer. It sure smelled to high heavens when they were out doing it along the country roads.

Still done like that too, I get the "aromatic" smell 2 or 3 times a year, for several miles twice a day, and occasionally end up behind a tractor hauling the stuff for several miles, and I'm at least a mile behind it on purpose.
When mixed with water (we call it Silage here) it's usually because they've added phosphate to the mix to help the crop.