TLOC
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Todd, 50 years after I would think you may not recognize the Islands. Maui is very different than even our 1st 3 day Island hopping visit in 2005.The brother’s 1st house out there was purchased around 2012 but was part of a condo like community, it was a strange deal.Good Morning All!
27F @ 76%
Hawaii: Got to Oahu in 1/1972, left 12/1973. What a place for a 19yo! There was always something to do and ..boy.. could I get into trouble. When I made E-4 I could get 'comrats', so I and 2 others rented a place. Lived on Namanhana street about 3 blocks from Waikiki. That was tough to take as there was *lots* of eye candy about. During monsoon it rained and rained and rained. Not a big deal all in all as you only had to wait about 10 minutes and you were dry again. The rest of the season(s) were pretty much 82 degrees, with rain in the afternoon about 1400; you could almost set your watch by it. All the tourists would scurry off the beach for the 20 minutes of rain, then back they would come.
I don't know if it has changed or not, but you could not buy land. You could get a zero-lot home, but not the property. Aunt lived there from 1952 to 1978 and was one of the last that owned her property. Been to Kauai and Maui, did not get to the Big Island. After being there about a year, one of the problems I had was that I could not go anywhere except in circles. I was one that loved to drive somewhere; still am. Sure you could hop a flight, if I remember correctly for about $50 round trip to Kauai. At that time there was only ONE traffic light on Kauai and it even was a flashing red thing - no red/yellow/green. Food was definitely more spendy than 'The World' although it was worth it to live off base. I would like to visit again just to see what 50+ years did to the place. Would not want to pull up stakes and move though.
Gawd: Been sorting stuff in the shop as I clean benches and the like. There are still boxes and boxes of stuff to go through. You know how many duplicate hand tools I have? When we were on 'home time' I would give up searching for a specific tool and just go out an buy what I needed. Welp, I am now good for the next 100 years with the supply of sockets, screw drivers, end wrenches, drill bits, router bits ... you name it ... that I have acquired. Tool box ( filled ) by every bench too. Have something like 5 DMM's and who knows where all the tape measure thingies are ... probably will have to buy a couple of those as the Wife has been bitch'n that there is not one in the house. Happy Valentines day honey!
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While I am not sure about other islands, Maui is a Leasehold but you can buy out the lesser. That is part of why it’s so expensive to own on Maui.
- Leasehold
As the word implies, being a leasehold owner means that while you have the right to use the land throughout the term of your lease, you do not permanently own it. Once the term is over, the land rights revert back to the lesser – though there are instances wherein the lesser will sell the property and land to the lessee.
The History of Hawai‘i’s Leasehold Property | Maui Now
The main interest of land trusts was to keep the land, not to buy and sell. So, leasehold became a popular way to “temporarily sell” land through a lease, which limits ownership to a predetermined number of years.
My brother now has almost 20 acres of Simple fee property and even with that much property he is still limited to what he can build due to water allocation. Each allocation is for roughly 5000 square feet of residence. His acreage has water rights for 3 residences. He was able to combine 2 allocations for the house he has. He does have cisterns to capture rain water for use on the landscaping, green houses, gardens and for the pools. The pool water though is filtered as a salt water pool. We sold him our adjoining property so he could build bigger when we decided a couple years ago not to move out there full time. Originally we were building a family complex. But we got an offer we believe from the then world’s richest guy when he tried to buy everything on Maui, that we couldn’t refuse. The brother says since his last stay 6 months ago, you couldn’t tell where we were building, it’s all been leveled and naturalized.
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