Running Bear's December 2025 Coffee Shop
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I checked the last Giant Foods store brand butt portion ham I have. I paid $0.79 per pound during a pre-Christmas sale. To get two, I had to spend $40, not counting the cost of the hams. Of course, we ended up spending well over $100, but that’s another story. The label on the store brand ham says, “water added.”
I choose hams based on look and feel, but I’ll start paying more attention to the labels from now on. Even knowing the store brand hams were water-added, I’m very happy with the two I bought. I baked the first one on Christmas Day, and it was just as good as the John F. Martin ham ($2.69/pound) I made on Christmas Eve. The only difference I noticed was a bit more water or juice in the pan when the store brand was done.
I can never have too much ham for Christmas!
I didn't check the label of the John F Martin ham; it was already in the trash. The next time I see one in the store I will look at the label.
At $0.79/pound I am not concerned with water added. My question is how much "chunking" can they do with a whole or half, bone-in ham, if any? And wouldn't it be obvious either by look or feel?
I can see there has to be something done with boneless and semi-boneless hams. But I seldom if ever buy them. Neither do I buy spiral sliced or any kind of glazed ham. I love the natural flavor of a good hardwood smoked ham. I don't put anything on the hams I bake. I set them cut side down on a bed of baby carrots with just enough beer to gently steam the ham and loosely cover it with aluminum foil.
Thanks to you I will avoid buying any ham with "Ham and Water Product" on the label.
Thanks again!
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Kusojiji
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I have a "son" story as well. On USS Last Ship, I had a puppy named Beau show up that I had to care and feed. We had long talks, especially on the 4 hour watches that we had to stand. Years go by and I'm retired, working in radio on one of the Tico cruisers. I was teaching a very bright RM2 on a digital network system. Anyway, Beau knocks on the door to radio and they open the little window. He sees me and yells out. The RM2 asks me how I know him and I tell her that he's my son. She, of course, doesn't believe me, so I yell back at him and ask him how I knew him. He comes back without missing a beat and yells "I'm your son!" Haha, yeah, she about sh!t! He's a white guy and I'm not. I told her previous marriage...
Bruette
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Thanks for sharing this important information again. Ham is one of my favorite foods, and I appreciate being better informed about it.
I checked the last Giant Foods store brand butt portion ham I have. I paid $0.79 per pound during a pre-Christmas sale. To get two, I had to spend $40, not counting the cost of the hams. Of course, we ended up spending well over $100, but that’s another story. The label on the store brand ham says, “water added.”
I choose hams based on look and feel, but I’ll start paying more attention to the labels from now on. Even knowing the store brand hams were water-added, I’m very happy with the two I bought. I baked the first one on Christmas Day, and it was just as good as the John F. Martin ham ($2.69/pound) I made on Christmas Eve. The only difference I noticed was a bit more water or juice in the pan when the store brand was done.
I can never have too much ham for Christmas!
I didn't check the label of the John F Martin ham; it was already in the trash. The next time I see one in the store I will look at the label.
At $0.79/pound I am not concerned with water added. My question is how much "chunking" can they do with a whole or half, bone-in ham, if any? And wouldn't it be obvious either by look or feel?
I can see there has to be something done with boneless and semi-boneless hams. But I seldom if ever buy them. Neither do I buy spiral sliced or any kind of glazed ham. I love the natural flavor of a good hardwood smoked ham. I don't put anything on the hams I bake. I set them cut side down on a bed of baby carrots with just enough beer to gently steam the ham and loosely cover it with aluminum foil.
Thanks to you I will avoid buying any ham with "Ham and Water Product" on the label.
Thanks again!
Bill Tidler Jr.
Retired N&W/NS Signalman
Good morning! It's Friday, 43°F and a chance of rain. 
Have a good day!
Have a good day!
Kusojiji
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You know we don't believe you. Seeing is believing.
CambriaArea51
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Good morning...21 with snow later today so I'll be working later. Coffee Flo, please and I'll have some eggs with spam unless Terry tossed it out already.
KriegslokBR52
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Well he did write a note that said "Ho ho ho" to Grubber.
Kusojiji
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Good evening folks, 40 F right now and watching Steve L on replacing a boiler on u-tube.
Can't wait for my next dentist appt on the 28th to get the partial cap installed as eating on one side of my face is a real pain in the axx. Just hope they aren't too pissed since the temp fell off on the 22nd. Been doing my best at keeping that area clean and unchewed on.
Can't wait for my next dentist appt on the 28th to get the partial cap installed as eating on one side of my face is a real pain in the axx. Just hope they aren't too pissed since the temp fell off on the 22nd. Been doing my best at keeping that area clean and unchewed on.
RhB Michael
RhB Lokführer
60^F this morning heading for 77°F so they say. We'll see.
Nothing planned for today, but I might get into the train room later after lunch.
Have a great day! Servus!
Nothing planned for today, but I might get into the train room later after lunch.
Have a great day! Servus!
ctclibby
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Good Morning All!
35F @ 91% dark
Watched the Bronc's and Chief's game. Nix looks to become a great QB. Even though Oladokun has been in/on the Chief's bench for ... what ... 4 years, needs more game time. He does seem to have wide vision and up field awareness which should help him in the future. Game was somewhat slow and the Bronc's seemed to do what ever they wanted. They did make Bronc history - 2 ( or 3 ) greater than 8 minutes ball time and no score, so the Chief defense was helping quite a bit. Chief's running game was a cluster and even though the line looked heavier, players were running into each other trying to clear a hole. Not good. So the big question is 'What is Kelce gonna do?' aka Al Michael's whom should have retired after his baseball announcer stint. Not a fan as he can really screw up a simple sentence. Anyway, even though I wanted the Bronc's to go down in flames, was not an awful game. Onward!
Dinner and grazing yesterday was great, only was 4 of us vs 5. One decided just to stay home and enjoy quiet solitude in her jammies. New Years around here is nothing, we are usually asleep by 10; have missed the time warp for almost 25 years now. So back to doing what we can do! Need to slice the leftover ham, will chunk some too.
L8r
35F @ 91% dark
Watched the Bronc's and Chief's game. Nix looks to become a great QB. Even though Oladokun has been in/on the Chief's bench for ... what ... 4 years, needs more game time. He does seem to have wide vision and up field awareness which should help him in the future. Game was somewhat slow and the Bronc's seemed to do what ever they wanted. They did make Bronc history - 2 ( or 3 ) greater than 8 minutes ball time and no score, so the Chief defense was helping quite a bit. Chief's running game was a cluster and even though the line looked heavier, players were running into each other trying to clear a hole. Not good. So the big question is 'What is Kelce gonna do?' aka Al Michael's whom should have retired after his baseball announcer stint. Not a fan as he can really screw up a simple sentence. Anyway, even though I wanted the Bronc's to go down in flames, was not an awful game. Onward!
Dinner and grazing yesterday was great, only was 4 of us vs 5. One decided just to stay home and enjoy quiet solitude in her jammies. New Years around here is nothing, we are usually asleep by 10; have missed the time warp for almost 25 years now. So back to doing what we can do! Need to slice the leftover ham, will chunk some too.
L8r
RhB Michael
RhB Lokführer
I too had a few windows and my front door open for a few hours yesterday. Nice to get some fresh air into the house even if only for a few hours.
Hopefully I can do the same thing today in a few hours. Right now the furnace is still running. Last night, set at 68°F, it didn't come on at all and was still 71°F in the house when I came downstairs this morning.
Hopefully I can do the same thing today in a few hours. Right now the furnace is still running. Last night, set at 68°F, it didn't come on at all and was still 71°F in the house when I came downstairs this morning.
TLOC
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Good morning from foggy Wisconsin where it rained most of the overnight. It’s a good thing Santa doesn’t need the snow to travel. Most of it was gone by midnight Christmas Eve and as I checked out the fog this morning, there is barely any out there.
The son and g/f head out this morning but the plans have changed. They are heading to Tulsa instead of Memphis to say hi to her mom. It didn’t go well on the trip down and she wants to try again. They then will head home to Austin. The Memphis people called yesterday and declared they were sick. The New Orleans portion is just delayed. They will go down now for NYE and celebrate with their friends. His truck is packed except for their over night bags. The slot track fit very well, the son did the measurements and he did them well.
We had a good time at the daughter’s yesterday. Italian special dinner, for the 1st time in years the SIL smoked no meats! It was very good but way too many carbs! We have maybe 3# of left over beef tenderloin from the Christmas Eve dinner and grazing period! While the son is taking about 15#s of cookies home he wanted no meats. We had the 18 invited and 4 come alongs who of course were welcomed on Christmas Eve but no open house this year. Hopefully that is the new tradition, no more open houses for us. I always thought that was too much work.
If the son really leaves this morning I will get some bench time in for myself. I need to wire up the signal indicators on the blue point switches to tell me which way the throw is set. I’m now determined to fix the section of track I tore out in February by New Year’s Day!
Enjoy the day
The son and g/f head out this morning but the plans have changed. They are heading to Tulsa instead of Memphis to say hi to her mom. It didn’t go well on the trip down and she wants to try again. They then will head home to Austin. The Memphis people called yesterday and declared they were sick. The New Orleans portion is just delayed. They will go down now for NYE and celebrate with their friends. His truck is packed except for their over night bags. The slot track fit very well, the son did the measurements and he did them well.
We had a good time at the daughter’s yesterday. Italian special dinner, for the 1st time in years the SIL smoked no meats! It was very good but way too many carbs! We have maybe 3# of left over beef tenderloin from the Christmas Eve dinner and grazing period! While the son is taking about 15#s of cookies home he wanted no meats. We had the 18 invited and 4 come alongs who of course were welcomed on Christmas Eve but no open house this year. Hopefully that is the new tradition, no more open houses for us. I always thought that was too much work.
If the son really leaves this morning I will get some bench time in for myself. I need to wire up the signal indicators on the blue point switches to tell me which way the throw is set. I’m now determined to fix the section of track I tore out in February by New Year’s Day!
Enjoy the day
santafewillie
Same Ol' Buzzard
Good Morning All Clear and 64°, the warm spell continues with mid-80's later today and tomorrow. A/C's are on standby! Forecast still calls for a cold front just after sunset on Sunday. But it's only supposed to last two days.
Not sure if there are any firm plans for today other than the usual after holiday cleanup. Not enough laundry or dishes to warrant running either machine right now, although maybe the dishwasher tonight. I'll sort through the booty and take any RR related items out to the train shed, not as many this year as most. Partly due to my wife not gifting me anything since I bought 10 new ScaleTrains diesels this fall. I did buy her some expensive water-colors that haven't been delivered yet. She had balked about buying them for herself due to the cost, so I bought them without telling her. Most of my gifts yesterday were just items that I suggested. We are at the point that if we want/need anything, we just buy it ourselves.
No time out in the train shed yesterday, but here is an update on the two projects that I worked on this past Wednesday.
Remember that I decided to fabricate my own coping for the missing one on the Walter's Commissary building.
Then I had to match the paint, I picked Polly S Earth Red that I still have.
Sure is close so I am going with it. I'll probably find the old one today!
I opened up, inspected and placed the last car of my "Ten Days of Christmas" project on the rails. It's another bulkhead flatcar from Atlas, lettered for a close to home short line AOK.
Can't decide what type of load, if any, I will make for this one. The TTX one from last week will be getting a pipe load which I am already gathering materials for.
I am sure that I will run trains for part of the day today and break-in some of the new cars. Yes, I know that this flatcar is actually #11, but I have decided not to actively use the Coca Cola tanker. My NIB shelf now has less than 2 dozen cars on it, at least 7 require re-numbering. And now that the Commissary structure is ready, I will advance with the detailing (minor if any) and adding figures
Mike - Regarding your daughter's sleeping in late yesterday. Started happening when we were kids around age 13-14, and it happened with our kids around the same age. It just seems to lose it's allure at a certain age. Enjoy the silence! You deserve it.
Mikey -
David (Marlin) - I'm not sure if it was a Cure 81 Ham or not, the label is long gone. It was spiral cut though, so it was the real thing. I think that it was. We tossed the glaze packet though.
I always thought that it was just me having trouble with Walther's decals. I guess not!
Heavy metalist Lars Ulrich, drummer for Metallica, is 62 today.
Everybody have a great Boxing Day if you're from one of the Commonwealth countries, otherwise have a great Friday.
Not sure if there are any firm plans for today other than the usual after holiday cleanup. Not enough laundry or dishes to warrant running either machine right now, although maybe the dishwasher tonight. I'll sort through the booty and take any RR related items out to the train shed, not as many this year as most. Partly due to my wife not gifting me anything since I bought 10 new ScaleTrains diesels this fall. I did buy her some expensive water-colors that haven't been delivered yet. She had balked about buying them for herself due to the cost, so I bought them without telling her. Most of my gifts yesterday were just items that I suggested. We are at the point that if we want/need anything, we just buy it ourselves.
No time out in the train shed yesterday, but here is an update on the two projects that I worked on this past Wednesday.
Remember that I decided to fabricate my own coping for the missing one on the Walter's Commissary building.
Then I had to match the paint, I picked Polly S Earth Red that I still have.
Sure is close so I am going with it. I'll probably find the old one today!
I opened up, inspected and placed the last car of my "Ten Days of Christmas" project on the rails. It's another bulkhead flatcar from Atlas, lettered for a close to home short line AOK.
Can't decide what type of load, if any, I will make for this one. The TTX one from last week will be getting a pipe load which I am already gathering materials for.
I am sure that I will run trains for part of the day today and break-in some of the new cars. Yes, I know that this flatcar is actually #11, but I have decided not to actively use the Coca Cola tanker. My NIB shelf now has less than 2 dozen cars on it, at least 7 require re-numbering. And now that the Commissary structure is ready, I will advance with the detailing (minor if any) and adding figures
Mike - Regarding your daughter's sleeping in late yesterday. Started happening when we were kids around age 13-14, and it happened with our kids around the same age. It just seems to lose it's allure at a certain age. Enjoy the silence! You deserve it.
Mikey -
I have approximately 1300 currently on the layout, most hand-painted including over 150 that Chet sent me. My stash has almost 800 more ready and 250 left to be painted. I have places in mind for many of them. I also have an unknown number of both painted and unpainted Chinese figures to work on. I love using figures on a layout, I feel that it really brings things to life.
David (Marlin) - I'm not sure if it was a Cure 81 Ham or not, the label is long gone. It was spiral cut though, so it was the real thing. I think that it was. We tossed the glaze packet though.
I always thought that it was just me having trouble with Walther's decals. I guess not!
Heavy metalist Lars Ulrich, drummer for Metallica, is 62 today.
Everybody have a great Boxing Day if you're from one of the Commonwealth countries, otherwise have a great Friday.
migalyto
Well-Known Member
Good morning all!
Our mild weather stretch continues. Currently a foggy 45F with an expected high of 48F. I don't think it rained here last night
but everything looks wet, but then again the humidity is at 100%.
Nothing is planned for today. We usually take the day after Christmas and unwind. My daughter does have practice tonight
for her travel volleyball team. That is earlier tonight due to everyone being on school break. Its from 6pm till 7:30pm. Normally
its 7:30pm till 9pm.
Yesterday we had a small Christmas get together with my parents at our house. It was just 5 of us so it was pretty simple and low
key. Wife made a roast with potato's, carrots and homemade gravy. It was excellent.
Have a safe day everyone!
Our mild weather stretch continues. Currently a foggy 45F with an expected high of 48F. I don't think it rained here last night
but everything looks wet, but then again the humidity is at 100%.
Nothing is planned for today. We usually take the day after Christmas and unwind. My daughter does have practice tonight
for her travel volleyball team. That is earlier tonight due to everyone being on school break. Its from 6pm till 7:30pm. Normally
its 7:30pm till 9pm.
Yesterday we had a small Christmas get together with my parents at our house. It was just 5 of us so it was pretty simple and low
key. Wife made a roast with potato's, carrots and homemade gravy. It was excellent.
Have a safe day everyone!
Bruette
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Good morning, Everyone!
I spent a few minutes setting a new PC my son gave me for Christmas. Being 100% Microsoft and making full use of the Microsoft cloud made that simple. A far cry from the old days of 486 and floppies, none of which do I miss!
Although I think I will have to download and install Microsoft Office. I'll know after it is done with all the updates.
I don't even have to pay to upgrade to Windows 11-Pro as it is already preinstalled.
Enjoy your day Everyone!
I spent a few minutes setting a new PC my son gave me for Christmas. Being 100% Microsoft and making full use of the Microsoft cloud made that simple. A far cry from the old days of 486 and floppies, none of which do I miss!
Although I think I will have to download and install Microsoft Office. I'll know after it is done with all the updates.
I don't even have to pay to upgrade to Windows 11-Pro as it is already preinstalled.
Enjoy your day Everyone!
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