chadbag
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No they wouldn't. The red side of the aisle has a brain and knows that weather delays travel. The red side doesn't need hand holding to tell them about life, the universe, and everything or to hold their hands.
Running Bear's December 2023 Coffee Shop
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No they wouldn't. The red side of the aisle has a brain and knows that weather delays travel. The red side doesn't need hand holding to tell them about life, the universe, and everything or to hold their hands.
5 hr round trip to visit & buy my baby sis birthday lunch. She became a 59 yr old 5 days ago.
Playing with the Google Auto Narration. It's a step above robot voice. Maybe 2 steps. But a human narrator puts sooooo much inflection, and character voicing into their productions. I love listening to all but one of my audiobooks. (Hired the wrong narrator, and I have to wait for the contract to expire to redo it.
I tried one AI service tonight that had an awesome deal... and I asked for a refund. I realized why they were giving that awesome deal. They weren't ready fro prime time.
The other AI service knows what they're worth, and charging it. It will run about 80-100$ US per book to use that service.
To be fair, I'm only paying about $800-ish a book by the two narrators I like and have used. BUT, when I only get 40% of the sales price of the book (or less if Audible has a "credit" sale) it takes a long while to earn out the production cost.
I had a small amount of money in a bank (£6.00). Because I had not used the bank services for a few weeks they sent me a letter to tell me how much money was in the account. For that information (I already knew) they charged me £30.00. Now I was £24.00 overdrawn. I went to see the bank manager to complain and as I did so, they sent another letter saying I was overdrawn £24.00. £30.00 was added to the amount.
Those of you adding this up can see I am now overdrawn £54.00. The next day I received a letter telling me not to spend money whilst overdrawn? Yes, another £30.00 added. £84.00 overdrawn and I had not spent the original £6.00.
Taking legal advice I had to pay the £84.00 as the banks could do such things. Shortly after a law was passed on bank charging and the sending of such letters was stopped. Oh! and yes I closed my account at the bank never to darken their doors again.
The standard is pay per finished hour. Not time invested. Most of my books end up between 5 and 6 finished hours of recording.
The narrator will have auditioned for numerous projects to land one. Then they'll get the manuscript. Mine top out at 60,000 words (10K words = about an hour of performance.
They then build a home studio space. Non-audio reflecting walls and top/bottom surfaces. Then they have to stop and retake if a motorcycle, trash truck etc, rumbles down their street. One narrator had to turn her AC/Furnace off while recording because she kept getting too much white noise whenever it kicked on. They actually add white noise (room noise) to the finished recordings, but it's a final step.
Now, give the manuscript a read-through, marking up the text with character notes. Each character will be performed with their voice. For one of my characters (the snarky cat who is addicted to coffee beans) - I told the narrator he's a Welsh Danny DeVito.
She sent me a character voicing file, where she read through lines for each character. Fortunately, I write in series, so narrator 1 was able to transfer the character notes for the main cast from book to book. BUT, I introduce about 6 new characters per book. That's 6 new voices we have to agree on. And not just voice tone, but how they get acted.
Narrator then starts recording. They may send me sample files or written questions if they need gaps filled in. After recording, they have to go through and edit the audio. They never nail a chapter in one take. So they might have an hour, or maybe three, in on one chapter. Probably three hours. For 12 minutes of finished audio.
I usually figure that they've got about 3-4 hours of work per finished hour of audio. That's 18-20ish hours for one of my books. That's about $40-50/hour for self-employed "talent". They deserve far more for putting up with some of the tripe we write.
But, during the pandemic, too many small theatre groups were out of work. That's how I found one of my narrators. I was lucky that she's a dual citizen, and has a good understanding of Brit dialects for my Welsh series.
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No they wouldn't. The red side of the aisle has a brain and knows that weather delays travel. The red side doesn't need hand holding to tell them about life, the universe, and everything or to hold their hands.
TLOC
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Really!
Smudge617
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No, supposed to be going to my daughter's bf's family's house on the 25th, but I'll beg out of that one, but that's about it, I don't really do Christmas anymore, not even decorations, I'm not being Scrooge but it's just that I really miss my youngest daughter at this time of year.
rgeiter
Conrail Quality
Forgot to post a pic.Flood clean up day begins.
PRR Modeler
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I don't care which side you are on the political spectrum, but can we stop this discussion before it gets out of hand again?
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santafewillie
Same Ol' Buzzard
I agree with you, it was not my intention to have a political discussion, rather I was pointing out the absurdity of the comments to begin with, and that a formerly reputable news organization felt that this was news.
Patrick
What, me worry?
Did you get any in the house? Went through a flood in October 1998. Fortunately I had help with both demo\cleanup and restoration. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
CambriaArea51
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As for the weather, last year 5' of snow and worked all weekend plowing. This year 45 for Saturday and Sunday and 55 for Christmas. Looks like the wife and I will be going for a bicycle ride.
PNKFLOYD
Mikey
Think what your house would look like if all that water was snow?
moermusic
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Just got the weather guessers forecast a min ago: warmest Dec in Edmonton town ever. So far, 18 days above ave, & looks like above ave till new yr. Still no snow accumulated. Brown Christmas here. Might hit plus 8 C this comin mid week
5 hr round trip to visit & buy my baby sis birthday lunch. She became a 59 yr old 5 days ago.
troyphoto
Snarky Old Fart (in training)
I have a face for Radio, and a voice for silent movies. So NO. I'm not a narrator.
Playing with the Google Auto Narration. It's a step above robot voice. Maybe 2 steps. But a human narrator puts sooooo much inflection, and character voicing into their productions. I love listening to all but one of my audiobooks. (Hired the wrong narrator, and I have to wait for the contract to expire to redo it.
I tried one AI service tonight that had an awesome deal... and I asked for a refund. I realized why they were giving that awesome deal. They weren't ready fro prime time.
The other AI service knows what they're worth, and charging it. It will run about 80-100$ US per book to use that service.
To be fair, I'm only paying about $800-ish a book by the two narrators I like and have used. BUT, when I only get 40% of the sales price of the book (or less if Audible has a "credit" sale) it takes a long while to earn out the production cost.
santafewillie
Same Ol' Buzzard
Book narration is a unique talent that few folks have, I didn't realize that it was so lucrative though.
NorthBrit
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Reminds me of a time many years ago.
I had a small amount of money in a bank (£6.00). Because I had not used the bank services for a few weeks they sent me a letter to tell me how much money was in the account. For that information (I already knew) they charged me £30.00. Now I was £24.00 overdrawn. I went to see the bank manager to complain and as I did so, they sent another letter saying I was overdrawn £24.00. £30.00 was added to the amount.
Those of you adding this up can see I am now overdrawn £54.00. The next day I received a letter telling me not to spend money whilst overdrawn? Yes, another £30.00 added. £84.00 overdrawn and I had not spent the original £6.00.
Taking legal advice I had to pay the £84.00 as the banks could do such things. Shortly after a law was passed on bank charging and the sending of such letters was stopped. Oh! and yes I closed my account at the bank never to darken their doors again.
troyphoto
Snarky Old Fart (in training)
It's not as lucrative as one might think.
The standard is pay per finished hour. Not time invested. Most of my books end up between 5 and 6 finished hours of recording.
The narrator will have auditioned for numerous projects to land one. Then they'll get the manuscript. Mine top out at 60,000 words (10K words = about an hour of performance.
They then build a home studio space. Non-audio reflecting walls and top/bottom surfaces. Then they have to stop and retake if a motorcycle, trash truck etc, rumbles down their street. One narrator had to turn her AC/Furnace off while recording because she kept getting too much white noise whenever it kicked on. They actually add white noise (room noise) to the finished recordings, but it's a final step.
Now, give the manuscript a read-through, marking up the text with character notes. Each character will be performed with their voice. For one of my characters (the snarky cat who is addicted to coffee beans) - I told the narrator he's a Welsh Danny DeVito.
She sent me a character voicing file, where she read through lines for each character. Fortunately, I write in series, so narrator 1 was able to transfer the character notes for the main cast from book to book. BUT, I introduce about 6 new characters per book. That's 6 new voices we have to agree on. And not just voice tone, but how they get acted.
Narrator then starts recording. They may send me sample files or written questions if they need gaps filled in. After recording, they have to go through and edit the audio. They never nail a chapter in one take. So they might have an hour, or maybe three, in on one chapter. Probably three hours. For 12 minutes of finished audio.
I usually figure that they've got about 3-4 hours of work per finished hour of audio. That's 18-20ish hours for one of my books. That's about $40-50/hour for self-employed "talent". They deserve far more for putting up with some of the tripe we write.
But, during the pandemic, too many small theatre groups were out of work. That's how I found one of my narrators. I was lucky that she's a dual citizen, and has a good understanding of Brit dialects for my Welsh series.
troyphoto
Snarky Old Fart (in training)
I saw on Social Media that: "It's Blowing a Hoolie" and Sutton Hoo is closed today.
NorthBrit
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