Running Bear's Coffee Shop LVIII

[montanan]

That is a pretty tight S turn. Looks like #4's. Not good fpr a main line crossover. I am thinking that the problem may be the amount of overhang difference between the two locomotives. A little too much overhang on such a tight S curve is probably dragging the hoppers off while coming through the S. A truck mounter coupler would probably be even worse for this situation. I don't think the locomotive is the problem, but the S turn. I see no way to fit a #6 in the place where you need it.

# 4 turnouts are fine for industrial areas. I have a number of them on my layout because they can save you a lot of space in an industrial area, but for a main line crossover, I would use at least a #6. Looks like it is too late now. I have a #6 double crossover at the entrance of both of my yards. I didn't want to use a double crossover, but due to space limitations I didn't have much choice, but they have worked out well. I can easily back 85 foot passenger cars through them and have no problems what so ever with freight equipment.

 

[chessie_system3]

That is a pretty tight S turn. Looks like #4's. Not good fpr a main line crossover. I am thinking that the problem may be the amount of overhang difference between the two locomotives. A little too much overhang on such a tight S curve is probably dragging the hoppers off while coming through the S. A truck mounter coupler would probably be even worse for this situation. I don't think the locomotive is the problem, but the S turn. I see no way to fit a #6 in the place where you need it.

# 4 turnouts are fine for industrial areas. I have a number of them on my layout because they can save you a lot of space in an industrial area, but for a main line crossover, I would use at least a #6. Looks like it is too late now. I have a #6 double crossover at the entrance of both of my yards. I didn't want to use a double crossover, but due to space limitations I didn't have much choice, but they have worked out well. I can easily back 85 foot passenger cars through them and have no problems what so ever with freight equipment.

Oh its not too late. My track isn't permanent and well I may find myself getting #6 turnouts if I keep this plan. This is a flexible layout at the moment. I had it all laid out in a fashion that I could expand this layout down the road. As it stands right now I can't really expand off of this plan. So I intend to work my previous plan into the mix again. My layout is wired up already and I can run em. Which is the whole reason I had to do away with my last plan as I couldn't wire it up without messing up the spacing in my curves. But its wired now and as long as I build off what I have wired this is doable. I'll keep the updates coming.

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[montanan]

It looks like the track on the left is probably the main line, and the one on the right leads to ladder tracks to a mine I am guessing. I am pretty sure that a pair of number 6 turnouts will probably cure the derailment problems.

 

[chessie_system3]

Well here's the kicker with that. I have two #4 cross overs. If I go to #6s I'll have to do four of them. It's not a big deal. I'll get the issues corrected.

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[montanan]

I think that it will probably cure the problem. The #4's would probably work for a small switcher, but is really tight for a road locomotive. I'm sure someone else will chime in on the situation.

 

[chessie_system3]

I run #4s cause I have a 4x8 layout. They work well as long as I have them laid out to be a straight transition. Like what I had here.

It's the only way I have had my turnouts that worked flawlessly.

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[montanan]

The ones in this photo would work because there really isn't an "S" turn like in the first photo. These tracks are basically a straight track going intop a turn in one direction. The tight "S" turn I think is the culprit.

 

[chessie_system3]

The ones in this photo would work because there really isn't an "S" turn like in the first photo. These tracks are basically a straight track going intop a turn in one direction. The tight "S" turn I think is the culprit.

I have to agree. Now why i can run my sd7 with no issues and my geeps with issues I couldn't tell you. However I know the remedies to this problem. I'll just have to work on it tomorrow.

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[bnsf971]

I have to agree. Now why i can run my sd7 with no issues and my geeps with issues I couldn't tell you. However I know the remedies to this problem. I'll just have to work on it tomorrow.

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The longer wheelbase of the SD unit allows one end to be in the process of straightening out from the curve before the hopper enters the reverse part of the curve. The shorter wheelbase and length of the Geeps means the hopper will be into the reverse curve before the locomotive begins to straighten out.

 

[montanan]

Hope you get it figured out. being that the track isn't down permanent, you hopefully won't have a problem. Good luck.

 

[PRR Modeler]

Afternoon All,

Hard to believe it has been a year since Jeff passed away. The service today was nice. MOH has been volunteering at the school all day and will be there all day Thursday and Friday. I got home and vacuumed and moped. I also got the old washer ready to be hauled away. We should have the new one tomorrow and I'm waiting on a call for the delivery time frame.

Karl- Yes that is a Walther's sound unit. Unfortunately I do not own it anymore.

Chessie- I use PECO #5's all over my layout. I don't have any huge diesels but steamers tend to be pretty unforgiving. The only problems that I have had are from my own mistakes. I have both Insulfrog (insulated) and electrofrog (powered) and both work great. If you look on their website they have layout measurements.

I put this on my layout in honor of Jeff

I hope everyone has a good night.

 

[Trussrod]

Good morning fellow Rail Setters and Spike Drivers,
Hello Flo & Francine, glad you have Jeffreys' Dinner open on this December 15th that marks his one year passing. He will be sorely missed.
I'll just have some hot coffee and Hash brown potatoes, a couple of eggs and a pork sausage paddy. If you have the Jimmy Dean Maple flavor that's great!

It's a Cold one for Central Calif., an the Coarsegold area. It was about 26 according to my indoor thermometer this morning at about 7:00 and everything was white with a fairly heavy layer of frost. Let check Wunderground Weather and see what they say?
Clear but still a fair number of Cumulus clouds;
47.3 °F/ Feels Like 46 °F;
Wind is from the SSE at 3.7 mph;

Today is forecast to be nearly the same temperature as yesterday.
Today: High 45 | Low 28 °F
0% Chance of Precip.

Yesterday: High 45.9 | Low 29.3 °F
Precip. 0 in
Sun & Moon
7:05 AM 4:42 PM
Waxing Crescent, 21% visible
Pressure 30.17 in
Visibility 10.0 miles
Clouds Clear
Windchill 46 °F
Dew Point 34 °F
Humidity 60%

Good morning all. Starting off at 23 degrees this morning with about 4 to 6 more inches of snow over night. Getting too old for this c**p.

Garry - Nice caboose photo.

Did enjoy a phone call with Eric last evening after moving snow around.

Being I'm talking about snow, here's a photo of the North Coast Limited climbing up Homestake Pass just east of Butte, MT.

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Chet: Seems like I'm starting to get some of the same temps as you and feeling the cold too!
Nice picture of the NCL climbing Homestake Pass.

Good morning ......... A year ago we lost a great friend, Jeffrey Running Bear

The Coffee shop is named in his memory.
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(Copying language in the DIner of the MR Forum)

In memory of

Jeffrey Scott Wimberly​

July 07, 1960-December 15, 2014​

AKA Running Bear, Dr. Frankendiesel, The Spray Can Rembrandt​

Volunteer firefighter, exceptional model railroader​

and dear friend to many of us.

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Below is a photo of my Chapel Car, and it has been dispatched for memorial services.

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Garry: That's a very fitting tribute to Jeffrey! I didn't know he introduced you to the forum, he was quite guy and endured a lot during his short life but had some good times too and sure brightened the forum alright!



I, David, also still have the little sign, 'Jeffreys' Dinner' on my Horseshoe Meadow Depot.

 

[Milwaukee Road 113]

Whenever I'm not glued to my Milwaukee Road books, I seem to return to these....

 

[montanan]

Garry , Curt - Great photos and a nice tribute.

Things are quite so I thing I'll head home and widen the driveway. Tried to plow the driveway yesterday afternoon, but it was uncommonly heave wet snow and my poor little tractor that I mow with couldn't push the snow berms back far enough. got another six inches last night so it's time to crank up the skid steer and and get the driveway widened out.

Got some of my Alcos together last weekend and took a photo. Have four more buried in hidden staging tracks, but they wouldn't have fir in the photo any way.

 

[BigE]

YAY!!!! I have a new sliding glass door. It's all done except trim and vertical blinds.
At least it's air-tight and sealed up and that's all that really mattered!!!
E.

 

[Milwaukee Road 113]

Garry , Curt - Great photos and a nice tribute.

Things are quite so I thing I'll head home and widen the driveway. Tried to plow the driveway yesterday afternoon, but it was uncommonly heave wet snow and my poor little tractor that I mow with couldn't push the snow berms back far enough. got another six inches last night so it's time to crank up the skid steer and and get the driveway widened out.

Got some of my Alcos together last weekend and took a photo. Have four more buried in hidden staging tracks, but they wouldn't have fir in the photo any way.

Always enjoy your shots buddy, awesome!

 

[BigE]

After a serious long and hot shower, shave and hair cut, I feel much better.
Been quite a while since I've done any serious carperenting work.
A major plate of leftover spaghetti is being done right now.
I didn't bother with it last night. I'm sure to fall fast asleep afterwards.
At least the door is done.
E

 

[tootnkumin]

Chet, those copper wires from the poles to your TT, are the actually carrying the power to operate it?

 

[NateJ]

My grandpa goes in for pacemaker surgery tomorrow, and his doctor doesn't sound too confident in the outcome.
So prayers for him to come out alright and that the family won't worry too much.

 

[santafewillie]

Good Morning All. Clear and cooler this morning with the temperature at 45 degrees, and a NW wind at 11 mph. A "Blue Norther" blew in late yesterday and temps will drop to near freezing the next two nights, with highs only in the upper 50's. We'll be back to 70 by Sunday. Christmas day is predicted to be in the lower 70's with a low in the lower 50's. It's extremely rare to have a "white Christmas" here. Our coldest weather, 15-50 degrees occurs for about 2 weeks in late January. We'll make up for it in July-August with triple digits for days in a row. LOL
My trip to the grocery yesterday turned out to include an extra 12 mile trip (each way) to the Costco store, thus extending our "grocery trip" to over 5 hours. The price I pay for living out in the middle of nowhere. Actually we only do it about once every 8-10 days, and in an emergency, there is a beer store in a small country town about 5 miles away. Small selection and high prices but they do carry my favorite choice of Heineken. Christmas tree is decorated, all out-of-town gifts have been mailed and the only thing left is for me to buy the wife's presents. She's hard to shop for because she already buys what she wants or needs, leaving nothing for me to think about. Oh well, I guess it's a couple of Ben Franklins and maybe a large box of chocolates again this year.
Not much time for trains yesterday although I did do about an hours worth of running/switching.

Garry - Nice picture and tribute.
Curt - Great scenery and also a nice tribute.
Chet - Your engine washers certainly look like they keep busy! Just kidding of course, I weather lots of freight cars but haven't done too many engines. Of course Santa Fe kept theirs pretty clean/repainted up until the late 80's.
Eric - I should have taken you up on your bet. I've installed a number of sliding glass doors and it is actually pretty easy. Careful demolition and post-install trim-out both take a lot longer than the installation.

Willie