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Im brand brand new to this. I got an HO scale set with a jillion feet of brass rail, 2 engines and 8 cars, and some useless powerbox that says life like and is blue. I| like the brass rail, its kinda cool, and Im keeping it. Im more interested in scenery and layout than sounds and lots of cars.

Question: What should I do first? Im presently cleaning the brass, should I get a good power supply next? And and all suggestions are very welcome

thanks
 
Welcome to the forums, glad to have you onboard.

If It we me I would decide where you are going to set up your railroad and if need be build the bench work to support it first.

I have one of those old Life-Like transformers, mine still works fine. If your has given up the ghost you will certainly need a power supply.
 
Im brand brand new to this. I got an HO scale set with a jillion feet of brass rail, 2 engines and 8 cars, and some useless powerbox that says life like and is blue. I| like the brass rail, its kinda cool, and Im keeping it. Im more interested in scenery and layout than sounds and lots of cars.

Question: What should I do first? Im presently cleaning the brass, should I get a good power supply next? And and all suggestions are very welcome

thanks

Welcome to the forums.

Putting together a layout has a few steps that are recommended to be taken. Most are obvious, but will outline the basics.

Firstly, I would do as Louis has suggested, build your benchwork - what your layout will sit on, hope this isn't being too basic but better to be basic and cover everything than leave something out or say something you might not be familiar with.

Bench work is generally constructed from 2 X 4', (the legs) and 1 X 4's for the frame work.
Next is the top of the bench work which is generally 1/2" ply or similar

That will give you the space for your layout, a work bench and something to sit your goodies on :)

Once you have the base bench work done, you would be advised to then glue 2" insulation foam (Lowes, Home Depot) on top of that. The foam absorbs noise and provides a base for your track and scenery.

As you have a lot of track, cleaning that will be needed, but I wouldn't rush into it as it will probably need another darn good cleaning once you have it laid and ready to run trains on.

You are going to need a power supply, that is a given. I don't know about anyone else but before buying a power supply I would decide if you wanted a straight DC System or a DCC System and then buy a suitable power supply. If you go with DCC then you can buy starter systems that come with everything needed to be up and running in terms of power and control.

Some where during all of this you will need to put together a Track Plan, what your layout is going to look like. Your track plan will be determined, to an extent, by the amount of room you have to play with and will dictate the largest radius you can use. By radius I am referring to the sharpness of your curves. Radii comes in various sizes from 15" upwards for sectional track, most likely what you will have. Now, the radii will then dictate what trains you can run. Most commercial trains require a minimum radius of 18" and more than a few recommend a 22" radius.

Are you confused yet? If you are, don't worry, it isn't as complex as it may sound :)

So in brief, Step One: Build your Bench work; Step Two: Work out a track plan and Step Three: decide if you want DC or DCC then buy a power supply or Starter Kit applicable.

A couple of tips though for designing your track plan. Make sure you can reach all of your track work when it is on the bench work. The general maximum distance is 4' for reach. Your bench work can be as large as you want, it is only imperative that, regardless of the size of your bench work, you can reach all of your track work.

For designing your track plan there is a very good free and easy to use program called SCARM, written by one of our members Mixy, that lets you "build your layout" on a computer. Well worth while getting in my opinion.

Hope this helps and gives you a starting point at least. Any questions, just ask and someone will have the answer :)
 


Have you got a designated (for some of us this requires negotiation/permission with/of "the powers that be") area for your layout? Sounds like the track you have is what's called "sectional" track which is of the fixed length pieces type. Also no doubt any curved pieces will be of fixed radii, although you may have some that have smaller and larger radius to allow for double track running. I would suggest as a first step, doing an inventory of all that track. Brass is pretty rare now, so getting extra pieces to complete a plan may be a challenge. One of the reasons it fell out of favour is that of keeping it clean of oxidisation which interferes with electrical contact.

As you said in your other thread your main interest is in scenery and appearance rather than the actual running of trains, DC control is probably all you'll require. I don't think DCC (Digital Command Control) would be worth it and possibly more so because of the brass track.
 
Your going to need to decide how much space you have available to build the bench work.
Decide what type of benchwork you want, open grid, solid flat top, L Girder etc
Decide what types of things you like to have on a layout like bridges rivers tunnels etc
Era you want your layout to be in like modern , semi modern back in the 50's to 70's , 20's or older.
If you want dcc or dc
Lots to think about and best to make a list, its called a Givens and Druthers list.
 
find a local train shop. Go there.

Buy a few "Model Railroader" magazines by Kalmbach Publications. Even old recycled back issues are good to immerse yourself in. See if the local library has any copies too. There is no substitute for that first step.
 
wow these are some great answers. Thanks so much. Im going to do a list and check out that SCARM once I have my benchwork figured out
 
I might also steal some of Iron Horsemans (Kens) thoughts as well. Check out a book by John Armstrong for Track Planning. It is old but is the Track Planning Bible apparently, wish I had read or seen it before I did my plan. Also look at some of the following sites for ideas:

Scarm
Peco
Atlas

Just to name two, there are plenty of others though. You never know, you might find a plan that you like and will fit your space.
 
wow these are some great answers. Thanks so much. Im going to do a list and check out that SCARM once I have my benchwork figured out

That is what you will come to expect from this forum. Like you see with each and every post to this thread, there are some fantastic members of this forum.

Great answers everyone!


I might also steal some of Iron Horsemans (Kens) thoughts as well. Check out a book by John Armstrong for Track Planning. It is old but is the Track Planning Bible apparently, wish I had read or seen it before I did my plan. ...

That is a great idea, I wish I had thought of it.

Another Hall of Fame (my own creation in my mind) modeler CJ Crescent recommended it to me and I love it!!! When 2 Hall of Fame modelers give the same advice you know you can't go wrong.
 
Skippycamper:

Welcome aboard!

One question for you concerning the power supply. Can you tell us the maker of the locos you have now and possibly post photos of them? If you have older locos, then a DCC power pack may not be the way to go for you, with your circumstances and interests.

All good advice on the acquisition of track planning books and magazines. Also look for issues of Railroad Model Craftsman, another of the hobby's magazines.
 


Skippycamper:

Welcome aboard!

One question for you concerning the power supply. Can you tell us the maker of the locos you have now and possibly post photos of them? If you have older locos, then a DCC power pack may not be the way to go for you, with your circumstances and interests.

All good advice on the acquisition of track planning books and magazines. Also look for issues of Railroad Model Craftsman, another of the hobby's magazines.

no problem I will take a pic of all the locos and cars I have and post em up
 
This is what I have right now. The goal is to have a theme based around the Rocky Mountains going from Jasper to Vancouver. My layout is 14 x 6 at the moment but will expand eventually. I am looking to do modern Via Rail passenger train. I have no interest in DCC as I am more about layout than sounds and lots of cars.
 

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I was just curious about what you had now for power. The ATSF diesel is a Bachmann U33B or U36B, and the steam loco also appears to be Bachmann. Both are DC powered.
 
This is what I have right now. The goal is to have a theme based around the Rocky Mountains going from Jasper to Vancouver. My layout is 14 x 6 at the moment but will expand eventually. I am looking to do modern Via Rail passenger train. I have no interest in DC as I am more about layout than sounds and lots of cars.

I am confused, you have no interest in DC? Do you mean DCC by any chance?
 
You know, there are quite a few modellers who have no interest at all in running trains and are very content to build dioramas for static display and photographic opportunities. Although not exactly in that category you should look at this thread http://www.modelrailroadforums.com/...ing-the-Pinacle-Creek-Mining-amp-Timber-Co-RR. There are 2 layouts in here with the second now in a gauge renewal/alteration stage. Lots of ideas from someone (and others) whose main motivation is photography.
 
ooooooooooooops my huge mistake,....I have no interest in DCC is what I meant to say. Little dippy here lol

I figured that is what you meant - that being the case, you an pick brand new MRC Power Supplies for $30 or so. While I run DCC, I have an MRC for my accessories, lights etc. It would be perfect for a DC system though.
 
I figured that is what you meant - that being the case, you an pick brand new MRC Power Supplies for $30 or so. While I run DCC, I have an MRC for my accessories, lights etc. It would be perfect for a DC system though.

opinon on a Tech7 Ampac 760 for power? Im looking at getting that. Thanks
 


I have no specific knowledge of the Tech7 Ampac 760; however, after looking at it and it's specs, I'd say you couldn't go wrong.
 




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