My New Layout

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I only have just under 97 square feet and both HO and O on the same layout!

I have plans to build a 4X8 HO layout but it keeps getting put off so I made room on my O gauge layout in the mean time.

I even have a N scale set, My problem is I never met a train I did not like!
 
I only have just under 97 square feet and both HO and O on the same layout!

I have plans to build a 4X8 HO layout but it keeps getting put off so I made room on my O gauge layout in the mean time.

I even have a N scale set, My problem is I never met a train I did not like!
I was there at one time too. The O-scale (not gauge) was 9x8 and the N was 2x8. The O-scale spent its last year outside up on blocks with a tarp. I finally just realized I did not have enough space for everything. Both the N and O went away. sigh. Six years later I get unlimited space and really wish I had them back.
 
I only have just under 97 square feet and both HO and O on the same layout!

I have plans to build a 4X8 HO layout but it keeps getting put off so I made room on my O gauge layout in the mean time.

I even have a N scale set, My problem is I never met a train I did not like!

When I was a kid like 9 years old my father and I had 027 gauge lionel all late 40s-50s era on an L bench 4x12' with a 4x8 leg and 4 trains running when I was 12 we lost it all in a flood.I never had trains again until a year ago. I wish I had the room we had then.
 


...The O-scale (not gauge)...

Actually it is gauge http://www.lionel.com/ForTheHobbyist/AboutGauge/ at least according to Lionel, not that it makes much difference.
Excerpt from the Lionel web paged linked above:
Gauge vs. scale
As you now know, gauge refers to track size. Scale, on the other hand, measures the size relationship between a model and its real-world prototype. For example, a Lionel locomotive that is 1/48th the size of the real thing is called 1/48th or 1:48 scale. (As it happens, O gauge trains are 1/48th scale.) Sometimes the terms "gauge" and "scale" are used interchangeably even though, technically, they're different.
 
Not much progress I did my main bus under the bench and enlarged my sliding control board,I still need 6 more turnout controls will probably order them next week.

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Actually it is gauge http://www.lionel.com/ForTheHobbyist/AboutGauge/ at least according to Lionel, not that it makes much difference.
Excerpt from the Lionel web paged linked above:
Gauge vs. scale
As you now know, gauge refers to track size. Scale, on the other hand, measures the size relationship between a model and its real-world prototype. For example, a Lionel locomotive that is 1/48th the size of the real thing is called 1/48th or 1:48 scale. (As it happens, O gauge trains are 1/48th scale.) Sometimes the terms "gauge" and "scale" are used interchangeably even though, technically, they're different.
Yes, I know all that and I was being technical. That statement might be the reality of the party line according to Lionel, but when I was into Lionel I found they made very few things that are really 1:48 scale. When I got a 1:48th ruler and started measuring things I was very disappointed. Especially that the track was 5 foot gauge - Hence O-gauge. So, I use the scale vs gauge to distinguish between equipment that has only 2 rails, where I can put a scale rule on the equipment and have it match (at least fairly closely) prototype equipment, where the rails aren't a foot tall, wheel flanges on the equipment is not 6", etc.
 
Not much progress I did my main bus under the bench and enlarged my sliding control board,I still need 6 more turnout controls will probably order them next week.
What brand of turnout controllers are those? They do not look familiar to me. Is there a diagram that shows where on the layout turnout #1, #2, etc. are or do you just remember?
 
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What brand of turnout controllers are those? They do not look familiar to me. Is there a diagram that shows where on the layout turnout #1, #2, etc. are or do you just remember?

Those are Kato unitrack controllers,I will have a diagram once the layout is done. I cant remember what day of the week it is anymore never mind trying to remember which controller goer to what turnout LOL.
 
Yes, I know all that and I was being technical. That statement might be the reality of the party line according to Lionel, but when I was into Lionel I found they made very few things that are really 1:48 scale. When I got a 1:48th ruler and started measuring things I was very disappointed. Especially that the track was 5 foot gauge - Hence O-gauge. So, I use the scale vs gauge to distinguish between equipment that has only 2 rails, where I can put a scale rule on the equipment and have it match (at least fairly closely) prototype equipment, where the rails aren't a foot tall, wheel flanges on the equipment is not 6", etc.

Iron Horsemen, as usual you are absolutely correct, technically. The correct term should be scale when referring to any size model train.
In years past most Lionel and other O gauge manufactures have produced traditional scale (smaller then 1:48) as it has been for nearly 100 years, with a few exceptions.

In more recent times Lionel and others have made more and more Standard O (true 1:48) equipment. The trend has defiantly been moving to standard O. I have both, but to me it is silly for an O gauge hobbyist or Hirailer to purse such accuracy only to have them run on 3 rail track. In my opinion if you are looking for accuracy 3 rail O gauge is not the scale, but to each his own. The only reason I have standard O is because that is the new equipment that is equipped with the command control.

O has to be the most confusing of all scales, if not it is certainly near the top. The US, UK and the European Continent all have there own different versions of O. Every manufacture use it's own terminology; traditional scale, standard O, semi scale and others. Then throw in 2 rail O and you have a confusing mess.

For me Lionel is still the "standard of the world" so of course I use their terminology.

I apologize if I have offended you, but I could not resist the chance for the sophomore student to challenge the professor. As the good professor should, you put me I my place!

Johne230 I apologize to you as well for being a distraction to your thread.
 


Johne230 I apologize to you as well for being a distraction to your thread.
Yeah, I was a bit worried about that aspect of our "side conversation as well"... Perhaps we should start a separate thread to talk about the confusion of the naming of scales vs. gauges. G-gauge has to be up there among the most confusing. Then of course T and TT. It takes a college degree to figure it all out.
 
Yeah, I was a bit worried about that aspect of our "side conversation as well"... Perhaps we should start a separate thread to talk about the confusion of the naming of scales vs. gauges. G-gauge has to be up there among the most confusing. Then of course T and TT. It takes a college degree to figure it all out.

Thank you Johne230, but I really like the idea of a separate thread, the subject is HUGE and many people would learn from it, I know I would.

Great work on your layout and thanks for sharing your work!
 
Thank you Johne230, but I really like the idea of a separate thread, the subject is HUGE and many people would learn from it, I know I would.

Great work on your layout and thanks for sharing your work!

Thanks for the compliment Louis. I think it would be a good thread with a lot of good info. I think if lionel started making N scale I would go over just because thats what I had when I was a kid.
 
Its me again when I started this thread I already had the original layout on the bench.It was not wired just there to see how everything fit and start to build my mountains and track elevations.I dont have pictures from the very beginning my camara was not working so the pictures I have the track work and the rough terrain were in there earlystages of completion, thats when I realized the layout was lacking in functionality.I went on some of the other forums and did not get much in the way of help so I found this forum and all I can say is I am really happy I found it.Well thats enough words before I put you all to sleep here is some pictures of the evolution of the layout.I will post more as I get more done.

This was the original

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here are the first batch of pictures.

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A little more progress. I reworked the yard as shown in the final drawing. Not as long as I wanted but it will do.

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I am waiting for my coal mine to come so I can see how it fits. I really want to include the run around track but may have to rework part of the mountain and possibly kitbash the mine so it only has 2 tracks,that way I can use the track closest to the bottom of the picture as the runaround.

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