This was also with about 3.5lbs of lead stuck on the chassiss. Right now I'm trying to locate a new body for it so I can turn it into a SRR PA-4.
The pulling power of that MTH loco sounds impressive indeed. I have always admired great performing locos.
However, while MTH makes great performing locos, due to their "toy train shortcuts" they have taken on each loco, their control system thats not compatible with any other, and their (Mike's) business practices, means that I will never own anything from them.
Carey,
I think I have a P2K PA shell up here that is orphaned. It's lettered for St Louis & Southwestern, and painted Daylight (what else?); I'll look & see if I can turn it up. If I can, want it? I'll be sending the Captain one of his locos back with a sound install & can tuck the shell in the same box. It has the removable skirts and I think the PA-4s had no skirts. Not sure, you tell me.
Let me know.
On the MTH performance, I did get a chance to check out their GS-4/psuedo 6 that a club member bought. It did pull very well, being of diecast construction, so they have a grip on the whole "more properly distributed weight = better pulling power" thing. Unfortunately, it didn't sound anything like a GS-4, and the whistle they used sounded to me like a Class A N&W whistle, so: you can have sound, but it may not be the correct sound.
With the cost where it is, I can buy a brass model (bought a factory painted Key GS not long ago) and dump a Tsunami into it, and have one that looks and sounds right. I can pack enough lead into it so that it pulls well. I still have some sheet lead from the old Pullman building that I got from Jim Gibson
David Otte did a nice review on their Challenger and 4-12-2 this month, and said "they will probably not meet the needs of all HO modelers".
His positives were:
Their ability to negotiate smaller radius curves so that owners of small layouts can handle them.
Their pulling power.
Negatives were:
Prototype fidelity (not great)
Lack of ability to utilize all of the features on DCC
David though that they were going after a different market segment, modelers who grew up on computers & video games, hance all the animated effects.
I think he nailed it, with one addition: guys who had Lionel in their youth who are returning to the hobby now, and liked the Lionel features & animation
I am curious to see what their Daylight cars will look like, if we ever in fact see them. MTH and BLI both got into this thing where they were announcing everything, but building very little. It is unlikely we'll see any more Athearn Genesis passenger cars, at least for a good while, and Athearn has the designs for the Challenger Imports cars. That 77-C-3 was the nicest non brass passenger car I've ever seen.