HORNBY TERRIER MODS

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I have wanted a Terrier but they have all been sold before I even got interested in the UK locos. I did find this on at Rails of Sheffield where they sell pre-owned models. After hemming and hawing about it, especially since it had an ancient coupler that would be difficult to replace with Kadees, I decided to take the plunge.

HORNBY TERRIER FULHAM1.jpg


First order of business was to replace the couplers. The D type couplers screw on to the bottom of the chassis. I designed a retainer for the Kadees that would normally fit in a NEM pocket. These were very shallow, so I had to cut the legs off the Kadees. Used Goop to glue them in.
TERRIER FRONT ADAPTER.jpg


TERRIER FRONT COUPLER ADAPTER.jpg


FRONT COUPLER INSTALLED.jpg



What I didn't know about this model is that it is very noisy. It buzzes badly at all speeds. I saw that the idler gear moved side to side and up and down, so I put in a nylon washer on the shaft. It was a little too thick, so I had to sand it down a bit. That didn't fix the noise.
IDLER GEAR SHIM.jpg


I found that the motor vibrated quite a bit, so I decided to put a coreless motor in. I designed a motor mount, which had the tabs at the bottom that holds the idler gear in. I had to play with this a bit to get it to keep the gear from moving, but not restrict rotation.
TERRIER CORELESS MOUNT.jpg


Since I couldn't find a replacement worm gear as it has a strange modulus of 3.5 and Hornby no longer makes it, nor are their current offerings the same, I had to pull it off the old motor. It was stuck pretty hard and I ended up bending two pins and a drill bit, but finally got it off. It ended up being too sloppy on the coreless motor shaft, and consequently vibrated way too much, so I couldn't go that route. I ended up using a spare Hornby motor. So going back to the original motor mount, I added a shim to change the angle of the motor to engage the idler gear more.
MOTOR MOUNT SPACER.jpg


This did help a bit, but I found that running around corners caused a lot of noise. So I took a close look at the chassis and gears to find out why. At full deflection of the rear wheels (has the gears), the main gear would rub on the idler and I could feel some vibration, so I used a 1500 grit sand paper and slowly took some material off. While there, I filed the chassis to clear some of the flashing.
MAIN GEAR.jpg

CHASSIS SMOOTHING1.jpg


While the thing was all apart, I added lamps to both ends and painted the cab.

CAB INTERIOR.jpg
 


I have wanted a Terrier but they have all been sold before I even got interested in the UK locos. I did find this on at Rails of Sheffield where they sell pre-owned models. After hemming and hawing about it, especially since it had an ancient coupler that would be difficult to replace with Kadees, I decided to take the plunge.

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First order of business was to replace the couplers. The D type couplers screw on to the bottom of the chassis. I designed a retainer for the Kadees that would normally fit in a NEM pocket. These were very shallow, so I had to cut the legs off the Kadees. Used Goop to glue them in.
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What I didn't know about this model is that it is very noisy. It buzzes badly at all speeds. I saw that the idler gear moved side to side and up and down, so I put in a nylon washer on the shaft. It was a little too thick, so I had to sand it down a bit. That didn't fix the noise.
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I found that the motor vibrated quite a bit, so I decided to put a coreless motor in. I designed a motor mount, which had the tabs at the bottom that holds the idler gear in. I had to play with this a bit to get it to keep the gear from moving, but not restrict rotation.
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Since I couldn't find a replacement worm gear as it has a strange modulus of 3.5 and Hornby no longer makes it, nor are their current offerings the same, I had to pull it off the old motor. It was stuck pretty hard and I ended up bending two pins and a drill bit, but finally got it off. It ended up being too sloppy on the coreless motor shaft, and consequently vibrated way too much, so I couldn't go that route. I ended up using a spare Hornby motor. So going back to the original motor mount, I added a shim to change the angle of the motor to engage the idler gear more.
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This did help a bit, but I found that running around corners caused a lot of noise. So I took a close look at the chassis and gears to find out why. At full deflection of the rear wheels (has the gears), the main gear would rub on the idler and I could feel some vibration, so I used a 1500 grit sand paper and slowly took some material off. While there, I filed the chassis to clear some of the flashing.
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While the thing was all apart, I added lamps to both ends and painted the cab.

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Impressive! It all looks great!👍👍😃
 


Looks great! 😍👍
I wish I could get some Hornby OO scale for cheap (Even broken), But that seems near impossible to do in the US. Even if you find someone on fleabay that doesn't think there stuff is gold, the shipping is always a lot (I mean, A LOT). :( 😞
Yeah, I know what you mean. I have seen a lot of stuff on sale from the UK fleabay, but the shipping is almost the same as the item. I did find that if you can find one vendor, they will ( most times) combine the shipping. If they use Royal Mail, the first increment of weight is above 2KG, which is a lot of locos.
 
You have more "junk" in that pile than I have "good"! haha

I never thought of that! I keep seeing those plastic kits but now I know what they are actually good for!
If they are made properly and free-running they could be 'switched' around a repair yard or on a Heritage Line.
On a low loader on a road.
Just two ideas that are different to what is normally seen.
 




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