Exactly a rumor. Never listen to anyone at the LHS as they have no clue, Hell my distributor doesnt even have answers half the time. The best source are the people that actually work for the Co. 95% of the time what they say is the truth, I love to see all the funny rumors people post online and 90% of the time its I heard it at the club or LHS. If you want to know what is really happening then contact the people that work at Atlas.
Atlas still in business? Taking the Summer off?
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Exactly a rumor. Never listen to anyone at the LHS as they have no clue, Hell my distributor doesnt even have answers half the time. The best source are the people that actually work for the Co. 95% of the time what they say is the truth, I love to see all the funny rumors people post online and 90% of the time its I heard it at the club or LHS. If you want to know what is really happening then contact the people that work at Atlas.
Thats usually not a problem as the Co. that owns the ship is rarely the Co. that you use for shipping. Kind of the US Post Office using Private Truckers to transport mail, if they have an accident and your package is lost you go through the USPS for insurance not the trucking Co. Same for containers, Just cause its on the ship doesn't mean the product is insured by the ship owner but usually the shipping Co. which could be 2 separate entities. Now the shipping Co. can go after the Ship owners insurance but it all depends on the type of accident.
Here is an interesting situation. I was and engineer of a train that derailed. The head 6 cars derailed and tore up about 300ft of track, destroyed 4 cars to the point they had to be scrapped, damaged a building, closed the main line for 3 days resulting in Amtrak having to be bussed. After an investigation it was determined that the lead car was improperly loaded and the load shifted inside causing the car to flip over on to its side. So the RR wasn't liable but the Co. that loaded the boxcar was. They had to cover all loss and cleanup costs for the entire derailment.
I'll second that, glad you're all right!
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Exactly a rumor. Never listen to anyone at the LHS as they have no clue, Hell my distributor doesnt even have answers half the time. The best source are the people that actually work for the Co. 95% of the time what they say is the truth, I love to see all the funny rumors people post online and 90% of the time its I heard it at the club or LHS. If you want to know what is really happening then contact the people that work at Atlas.
IowaFarmBoy
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Even worse ships are often registered in some obscure country where the likelihood of government help in getting a fair insurance settlement is zero.
"Hey look. There's a container ship flagged for East Wherethehellisthatcountryistan."
"Hey look. There's a container ship flagged for East Wherethehellisthatcountryistan."
Thats usually not a problem as the Co. that owns the ship is rarely the Co. that you use for shipping. Kind of the US Post Office using Private Truckers to transport mail, if they have an accident and your package is lost you go through the USPS for insurance not the trucking Co. Same for containers, Just cause its on the ship doesn't mean the product is insured by the ship owner but usually the shipping Co. which could be 2 separate entities. Now the shipping Co. can go after the Ship owners insurance but it all depends on the type of accident.
Here is an interesting situation. I was and engineer of a train that derailed. The head 6 cars derailed and tore up about 300ft of track, destroyed 4 cars to the point they had to be scrapped, damaged a building, closed the main line for 3 days resulting in Amtrak having to be bussed. After an investigation it was determined that the lead car was improperly loaded and the load shifted inside causing the car to flip over on to its side. So the RR wasn't liable but the Co. that loaded the boxcar was. They had to cover all loss and cleanup costs for the entire derailment.
Had 5 GP38's on the lead and the TBOX was right behind the locos. 85 Loads 4 Empties in the train. That was my first derailment and it happened at 8 MPH.
Lots more pics here.
http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/...d Central RR/Accidents/Bellows Falls 1-16-05/
Lots more pics here.
http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/...d Central RR/Accidents/Bellows Falls 1-16-05/
That's quite a wreck for 8 mph. 
Sure glad you came out of it in one piece, Mark. As for shipping, that's why Lloyds of London started. It was originally a co-op among merchants to insure their freight being carried by sea, since the scalawags that owned the ships often were last seen going down with the cargo. 
Sure glad you came out of it in one piece, Mark. As for shipping, that's why Lloyds of London started. It was originally a co-op among merchants to insure their freight being carried by sea, since the scalawags that owned the ships often were last seen going down with the cargo. 
Rico
BNSF Modeller
That's quite a wreck for 8 mph.
I'll second that, glad you're all right!
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