southern154
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i have a Lionel 4-4-2 Wabash engine and i was just wondering what the prototype model was for this. Lionel uses this 4-4-2 design still to this day and I have never really seen a real engine like it
Probably the only thing prototype about anything Lionel is the RR name on their locos & cars. Does the font even look Wasbash?i have a Lionel 4-4-2 Wabash engine and i was just wondering what the prototype model was for this. Lionel uses this 4-4-2 design still to this day and I have never really seen a real engine like it
You mean this one?i have a Lionel 4-4-2 Wabash engine and i was just wondering what the prototype model was for this. Lionel uses this 4-4-2 design still to this day and I have never really seen a real engine like it
You mean this one? I believe there is no real prototype. Just a basic 4 wheel drive unit that they threw a generic boiler over the top of. All the real Atlantics that I know of have either much larger drive wheels, or the drive wheels are much closer to one another.
Probably the only thing prototype about anything Lionel is the RR name on their locos & cars. Does the font even look Wasbash?
Looks really good if it was painted for Pennsy. Looks like an E6. I don't believe B&O ever had any Belpaire fire boxed locos. Did they?This Lionel (6-11225) looks pretty prototypical to me.
Looks really good if it was painted for Pennsy. Looks like an E6. I don't believe B&O ever had any Belpaire fire boxed locos. Did they?
Went looking through Googles images for this numbered B&O loco. One similar took me to this page http://www.steamlocomotive.com/atlantic/?page=bo, In the discussions about the B&O's Atlantics, the class A-2 (LocoBase6520) had this to say: Drury (1993) and Alvin F Staufer & Lawrence W Sagle, B & O Power (1964). note that these were some of the very few Schenectady engines on the B&O -- these duplicated the Pennsylvania's E-3a.
In the section on the A-3 (LocoBase 1246) it has this to say about the valve gear and firebox: The last B & O Atlantics, these were built with Walschaert gear and 14"-diameter piston valves. The specs helpfully tell us that these were modifications of the A-2 that consisted of "...substituting a radial type of firebox for the Belpaire,
Some clues there perchance?
But good enough to see that it indeed has a Belpaire firebox.This was the only B&O 4-4-2 #1463 shown on rrpicarch.net, certainly blurry and not a good angle
But good enough to see that it indeed has a Belpaire firebox.
Oh, I'm sorry. The distinguishing feature of a Belpaire is the squareness of it. From the cab, the top of the boiler has a square hump that extends to the end of the fire box. The Pennsy and the Great Northern loved them. Other roads not so much. Just FYI, a Wooten Firebox on the other hand is curved at the top but doesn't taper in with the curve of the boiler. Instead it flares out a bit to be wider than the wheels at the bottom. This is characteristic of most Reading Railroad (who invented it) locos, and some of Western & Maryland's locos. The NP Yellowstones had a Wooten firebox to burn really low grade Rosebud coal.You know what you've just gone and done don't you, NOW I'll have to go and look up Belpaire firebox, so I know what one looks like.