Wiring a new layout.

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lowrider_33

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I am looking for any info on wiring a layout for power. What gauge wire to use for my drop downs and the bus wire? Does color coding help? I do plan on installing a dcc system in the fall but would like to start running trains asap. Any info what be great thanks
 
Depending on the length of run and who you talk to, your bus should be anywhere from 12 to 16 ga and your drop-downs 18-22 ga. I used 12 ga and 18 ga mostly because I had a lot lying around.

If you have DC already that's one thing, but if not, by the time you get a good DC system, you'll have spent half of what you would on a DCC starter kit. And wiring is more complex on DC.
 
Thanks for the reply, how far apart should the drop downs be located? I am using flextrack and was told every piece of track but I just wanted to confirm this thanks again
 


At the club it is surprising to see how far the power actually goes with just rail joiners.

You want the wires hidden so put them where you want it will work. If it don't simple clean your track. If you want a number, I'd say 3' - 5'
 
Thanks for the reply, how far apart should the drop downs be located? I am using flextrack and was told every piece of track but I just wanted to confirm this thanks again

I tend to wire every piece of track or solder the joiners in between. Many people will say it is not needed, but with age you can loose conductivity in the joints for a variety of different reasons. It's just easier for me wire the few extra drops and fergitaboutit.

If I were to give a rule of thumb--every 3-6 feet.
 
Fellas with years more experience than I have will gently and firmly tell you that your rail joiners will fail over time. As in all things, there is a hard left and a hard right, with 80% of us falling within a stone's throw of some type of average. So, some guys will solder a feeder to every single section of track...bar none. Others are willing to join two and solder them together with a feeder end embedded in the solder...so now you have 6' of track fed with one feeder.

I am on my second layout, both of them being close to "middle" sized, the first with EZ-Track, the second with Atlas or Model Power flex-type...not sure what it is. I soldered three sets of feeders for over 26 feet of EZ-Track, and never once had a power drop-out in the 15 months that I used that first layout.

On my current layout, about twice as large from a track mileage point of view (folded loop design), I have many more feeders because I split the layout power-wise into the natural confines of each of the four box frames that comprise my open pit style of bench. I can saw through the ground goop landscaping, cut some wires, undo some bolts, and I should be able to remove each of the four frames one by one with some minor damage to track. So, where I have gaps, I need feeders on each side....basically.

I added a staging yard off the layout later...it became necessary and highly desirable all in the same hour...strange how that works. :D In order to get to the staging yard, I had to bulid a long bridge spanning from the edge of the layout, behind a wood stove pipe along that wall, and then joining a large piece of fibre board that serves as the surface, to which I fastened turnouts and lengths of left-over EZ-Track and flex. To get to my point, I have all of this approximately 30' of various kinds of track, all joined with joiners and no solder, fed by exactly one pair of feeders that were meant to feed a small logging camp track at that close corner near the wood stove. One pair of 3' 22 gauge feeders that unfailingly allow DCC signal to awaken any QSI decoders left in a coma (triple shut-down using double-taps of F9) parked 12" away down one of the stub tracks.

Makes one wonder, doesn't it?
 
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I solder all my joiners to prevent bad connections from natural corrosion and to prevent any glues, paints, and chems from seeping in the joint eventually causing bad connections. Where it may or may not be needed, I feel better about it; that is until I have to change out something and try to suckup the solder from the joint:D . (Then maybe again, I do this because of my horrifying memories of the track problems I had with an old brass track layout:eek: )

My track feeders are 9 feet apart (covers 4.5 feet both ways) with 22 awg wire coming from a 12 awg bus. Yes, the feeders are soldered to the bus. Never a problem on my 1000+ feet of track. Does it hurt anything to have feeders at 3 feet...no, if that is what you will feel comfortable with.;)
 




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