Width for HO shelf layout

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Sinebar,

Your shelf layout dimensions are very simular to mine. I used 24 inches as my layout depth. I will attach some photos this evening. I am using about 50 inches of height for the base. To that add an additional 2" for foamboard. If you get a chance check out Lance Mindheims "Voodoo & Palmettos" shelf layout. Lance is only using about 12 to 14 inches of total width.

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Sinebar :
What is a good width for a 9' x 20' shelf layout? I'm thinking maybe 2' or would 3' be better?
I would recomend 2 feet is far enough1
but for a 180 degr curve you need of course a little bit more...
btw:68 camaro :the link of the layout is "WOHW "+ "EEK" ! just great!

Jos
 


Sinebar :
I would recomend 2 feet is far enough1
but for a 180 degr curve you need of course a little bit more...
btw:68 camaro :the link of the layout is "WOHW "+ "EEK" ! just great!

Jos

Actually I plan on a loop at both ends so I can run contiuous. Sort of a dog bone type of shelf layout I guess. So I guess it will have to be wider at both ends and 2' for the long run. I'm going to put a round house and turntable in there too but will have to be an addition.

I would love to see your pix 68 Camaro.
 
Sinebar :
I would recomend 2 feet is far enough1
but for a 180 degr curve you need of course a little bit more...
btw:68 camaro :the link of the layout is "WOHW "+ "EEK" ! just great!

Jos

For the 180 degr curves, I just angled a piece of 1 x 4" into the corner making it easier to make the curve.

Larry
 
It's a work and reach issue. The deeper it is the more work it is to build. Figure between $50-100 per sq ft and 50 hours sq ft.

Maximum reach should not exceed 30" no matter how far you think you can reach. That includes the places where you turn your trains.

On a shelf layout think in terms of one pass of the track through the scene. Loop the ends, not the whole layout. The train doesn't travel any more or less distance, and you will have more operational potential, more room to create scenes, and more realism.
 
Mine is 30" and I don't think I would go any deeper. Starts to get hard to reach the back of the layout.
 
I'd say anywhere around 24" is fine. Not to shallow, and not too deep. Just enough to take picture on and have a number of tracks & buildings. I'm using 24" on my switching layout.
 
I think when you construct a shelf layout, you are concerned in modeling the railroad and it's right of way. What is seen and detailed in the foreground is more important, because this is what is seen up close on any layout. Whats happening in the background may not be that crucial to what you are trying to model and consequently overlooked by the casual observer.
 
So can you tell me how much space (depth) you need to make a loop? For a GP model (4 axles)? On a shelf lay out? Mine is 24" deep but I would love to be able to run continues.
 


So can you tell me how much space (depth) you need to make a loop? For a GP model (4 axles)? On a shelf lay out? Mine is 24" deep but I would love to be able to run continues.

I plan on doing the same thing. I know I will have to have an extension off the side of the main layout on both ends that will accomodate a 22" radius curve. Kind of a dog bone arrangement.
 
You'll need to have end sections that are 4' wide to accommodate a 22" curve. You could go down to about 42" wide at the absolute minimum but that will only allow 18" radius curves, which will limit you to small diesels like switchers and earlier Geeps and freights cars no longer than 50' long.
 
I looked on Atlas' web site and they make track that has a 15" radius. Will GPs not fit on that? If it would then I could get a half circle on a 31" wide board, right?
 
You'll need to have end sections that are 4' wide to accommodate a 22" curve. You could go down to about 42" wide at the absolute minimum but that will only allow 18" radius curves, which will limit you to small diesels like switchers and earlier Geeps and freights cars no longer than 50' long.

IF its an 18" radius cant I place that on say 37" wide board? I know the track will be close to the edge but space is limited. Atlas makes a 15" radius track, cant GPs run on that?
 
The engines might make it on that small a radius, problem is when coupled to cars it starts to pull the cars off the track when going around corners. You would have to have switch engines and 40' cars.
 
Here are a few photos of my shelf layout such as it is. These are a few months old so I have progress slightly.

Larry






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The track plan is basically the same as Lance Mindheims "Voodoo & Palmetto layout. However, I have added a run around track. It will be a Miami based layout since I'm fascinated with the Florida and CSX. It will contain most of the warehousing that Lance models and include a open sided engine house that would probably be typical of the SouthWest but I will use it with this shelf layout. It will also have the canal that is between the two long sections of track that are shown in the preceding photos.


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