What's this called?
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kenw
5th Generation Texian
COULD be pulpwood, altho I've never seen one like that. The interim dividers/bulkheads are curious and are similar to other known pulpwood cars. The curiosity here is the outside supports.
Untreated ties are carried on centerbeam flats, gondolas and I would imagine COULD be carried on this. As could pulpwood. Or a lot of stuff.
Untreated ties are carried on centerbeam flats, gondolas and I would imagine COULD be carried on this. As could pulpwood. Or a lot of stuff.
cv_acr
Well-Known Member
Why do you consider the outside supports a curiosity?
http://users.silcon.com/~lgoss/bar566.htm
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cp304864&o=cprail
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=ac238459&o=ac
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cn615027&o=cn
kenw was talking about the "interim dividers/bulkheads" on the model but not there in any of your pix.
kenw
5th Generation Texian
.....curious because we don't see them down here. Those pics confirm it as pulpwood imho. The interior bulkheads are common on older, larger pulpwood flats as in the Ambroid models. So between the pics and my model, it says "pulpwood flat" pretty clearly to me.
Pulpwood would be cool. I will get some twigs and make a realistic load. I also have a bulkhead car that has molded plastic pulpwood. Will probably replace that with real twigs too.
Thanks for the feedback and info. I like the proto pics too.
Doug
Here's a couple examples I found after searching for "pulpwood car". It all seems so clear now
Thanks for the feedback and info. I like the proto pics too.
Doug
Here's a couple examples I found after searching for "pulpwood car". It all seems so clear now
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DanRaitz
Active Member
Looks like I was wrong on this one. It's just that it doesn't look like any pulpwood car I ever seen on the BN, possible "foobie". i.e. model painted for BN, whereas BN never had that particular model. Yes, I know, I used the "N" word.
When first looking at the photo of the model my second thought was, "How does one unload this thing?" But in looking at the photo of NW #32850, it looks like the side posts are hinged at the top and bar-clamped at the bottom. And by releasing the bottom clamps the logs would just roll out. What do you guys think?
Dan
When first looking at the photo of the model my second thought was, "How does one unload this thing?" But in looking at the photo of NW #32850, it looks like the side posts are hinged at the top and bar-clamped at the bottom. And by releasing the bottom clamps the logs would just roll out. What do you guys think?
Dan
kenw
5th Generation Texian
It appears that some could very easily have hinged sides, but the diagonal bracking on the Pennsy model would preclude that. Also on that model, the top cross pieces would also make loading and unloading virtually impossible. Is that an accurate model? I fail to see why the side and top bracing are even needed if the wood is loaded as shown; if the wood is loaded 'sideways' it would make a lot more sense from a structural/engineering standpoint.
Yes, particular paint schemes on models are often rather whimsical.
Yes, particular paint schemes on models are often rather whimsical.
A little more info:
It seems that these cars were very limited in number and AHM put all kinds of road names on the models. So it likely that the prototype never ran BN colors. It also seems that your observations about the side bars being hinged is accurate.
Here's more from HO-ScaleTrains.net
http://www.ho-scaletrains.net/ahmhoscalefreightcars/id44.html
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AHM's collection of freight cars was certainly an interesting bunch. This Pulpwood Rack Car is among the more curious and obscure offerings. There is a prototype for the car and it is found pictured above. The 1966 edition of the Car & Locomotive Cyclopedia holds the answer on its page 276. The car is reportedly a Norfolk & Western Princeton, West Viriginia shops creation. The idea was to have a car that could handle more logs than a typical gondola. It appears the side gates are hinged and drop down to ease unloading. For those Rivet-Counters eager to add it to their pike, beware, it appears N&W build only a half dozen examples in the early '60s. No information is available to confirm that any of the six N&W cars were owned by any other roads, nor have I confirmed that they survived to the Norfolk Southern days.
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Doug
It seems that these cars were very limited in number and AHM put all kinds of road names on the models. So it likely that the prototype never ran BN colors. It also seems that your observations about the side bars being hinged is accurate.
Here's more from HO-ScaleTrains.net
http://www.ho-scaletrains.net/ahmhoscalefreightcars/id44.html
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AHM's collection of freight cars was certainly an interesting bunch. This Pulpwood Rack Car is among the more curious and obscure offerings. There is a prototype for the car and it is found pictured above. The 1966 edition of the Car & Locomotive Cyclopedia holds the answer on its page 276. The car is reportedly a Norfolk & Western Princeton, West Viriginia shops creation. The idea was to have a car that could handle more logs than a typical gondola. It appears the side gates are hinged and drop down to ease unloading. For those Rivet-Counters eager to add it to their pike, beware, it appears N&W build only a half dozen examples in the early '60s. No information is available to confirm that any of the six N&W cars were owned by any other roads, nor have I confirmed that they survived to the Norfolk Southern days.
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Doug
