Weathering Rolling Stock, a Continous thread

[logandsawman]

@TLOC ok will try this out. and yes i know how to take my airbrush a part to clean it the complete way. the first time i did that it was a challenge to get it back together ahahaha. but i always clean my airbrush after painting, complete.

but i still think i have to buy some more acrylics, like burnt umber and stuff.

maybe i ask ALL here, what are your 5 go to colors for weathering?

Interestingly, that is about all I use

White, brown, and black acrylics
Rust and black powders
And India ink.

I model pre transition only. The simple days.

Dave LASM

 

[CambriaArea51]

Those are excellent

Thank you.

 

[CambriaArea51]

Five colors, I would say light rust, dark rust, grimy black, earth,and light brown/sand color.

 

[traiNscale]

thank you all for your insights. i was just wondering and so i thought about your most used 5s so i get a picture.
i think i will visit my local airbrush shop on sathurday and see what they have. its a whole new world that opens up to me and iam all in and fascinated.

back in the days i was all in on graffiti (yes i also painted trains) so i think i have the understanding of colors and what works and what not, but weathering i think is a whole other business but i like it.

by the way here is a absolute first try with pens on a H0 Scale car

 

[TLOC]

That's a subjective question, what colour is the car ? lighter cars need darker colours, and darker cars need less and more toned colours, are you heading for a rust bucket, is the car wood or metal, what type of car is it, flat, gondola, spine, box etc.? how "old" is it supposed to look, whats the general environment the car would usually travel through, and then there's fading. There's a whole range of things to consider when you weather something, 5 colours simply isn't enough

I counted TomO's collection that he posted, 20 in total.

Actually Chris I have about 60 Vallejo colors and 20 Tamiya.

Plus others but I could get away with those Valkejo I listed

 

[logandsawman]

All my paint supplies and tools have to fit under the layout, which is at 48", and partially rests on the upper shelf of my workbench. The small canisters contain different size sand and aggregate materials used for landscape:

This is the cleanest myt workbench has been in several weeks. The GN gond is next up, will be making a pulp load for it. Also some subtle weathering.

Dave LASM

 

[TLOC]

I was sitting at the bench. I have no desire to do anything more this morning. I hung 12’ of LED light tubes above the layout. I had planned to add the valance but decided, nope, maybe tonight.

So I wandered over to the bench to pack up the 4 weathered hoppers for pick up on Monday or Tuesday. Glad I looked, I need to change out the couplers to the Kadee ones he provided. Then decided that they also can wait till later. I put on the layout 6 of my latest weathered 1990 and after covered hoppers to see if he has any interest. That’s the weathering part to qualify for this thread! just kidding…

The only weathering commissions left for June are 7 diesels that we won’t discuss here, there is Tom’s (cambria Area51) thread for that!

I should look at my freight cars inventory and hi-lite the ones that need to be weathered or duplicates to be sold off…

 

[logandsawman]

I was sitting at the bench. I have no desire to do anything more this morning. I hung 12’ of LED light tubes above the layout. I had planned to add the valance but decided, nope, maybe tonight.

So I wandered over to the bench to pack up the 4 weathered hoppers for pick up on Monday or Tuesday. Glad I looked, I need to change out the couplers to the Kadee ones he provided. Then decided that they also can wait till later. I put on the layout 6 of my latest weathered 1990 and after covered hoppers to see if he has any interest. That’s the weathering part to qualify for this thread! just kidding…

The only weathering commissions left for June are 7 diesels that we won’t discuss here, there is Tom’s (cambria Area51) thread for that!

I should look at my freight cars inventory and hi-lite the ones that need to be weathered or duplicates to be sold off…

Tom - I will be moving all the weathered stock cars over to the feed mill siding. Thought of that last night then had this brainstorm of building a stock loading ramp by the feed mill.

No end to the fun! Seriously !

Dave LASM

 

[TLOC]

Tom - I will be moving all the weathered stock cars over to the feed mill siding. Thought of that last night then had this brainstorm of building a stock loading ramp by the feed mill.

No end to the fun! Seriously !

Dave LASM

Never ending fun

 

[traiNscale]

Well thank you to all your replys about the colors and stuff. i was at my local airbrush shop on Saturday. well it escalated quickly i guess



So i started my hopper project for the Walthers build off. i dont know why but i like competition even if iam get dead last, but iam motivated to try it.



what can i say, if you waterdown a valeyo air color dont use too much water haha. will try it again with almost no water, or should i maybe use the thinner?

question, if iam using a thinner, does that mean the color it self stays in its state, but the colortone will thinn? sorry dont really know how to describe, but if you add water it gets more floaty i guess, does that also happen with thinner?

 

[TLOC]

Well thank you to all your replys about the colors and stuff. i was at my local airbrush shop on Saturday. well it escalated quickly i guess

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So i started my hopper project for the Walthers build off. i dont know why but i like competition even if iam get dead last, but iam motivated to try it.

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what can i say, if you waterdown a valeyo air color dont use too much water haha. will try it again with almost no water, or should i maybe use the thinner?

question, if iam using a thinner, does that mean the color it self stays in its state, but the colortone will thinn? sorry dont really know how to describe, but if you add water it gets more floaty i guess, does that also happen with thinner?

When in doubt with thinning go with the paint producers thinner.

 

[CambriaArea51]

I don't thin the Vallejo, it's thin enough.

 

[TLOC]

These are going out tonight or tomorrow. The weathering client is in the area on business and was hoping to stop either tonight or tomorrow. we shall see…

 

[C&OMtnMan]

I don't thin the Vallejo, it's thin enough.

Yes, but there is “thin enough to spray” and then there is “thin enough for a given user’s skill level or equipment limitations in controlling coverage.” The two are not always the same.

 

[traiNscale]

well i will try it out.
for me the vallejo waterbased airbrush colors are pretty covering, if your working with the airbrush.
but i think the air colors are thinner that at least what i discovered when i saw the air colors the first time. so i will try it without thinner.

 

[Smudge617]

well i will try it out.
for me the vallejo waterbased airbrush colors are pretty covering, if your working with the airbrush.
but i think the air colors are thinner that at least what i discovered when i saw the air colors the first time. so i will try it without thinner.

I only use Vellejo and tru colour paint, Vellejo I have never thinned when painting

 

[TLOC]

I only use Vellejo and tru colour paint, Vellejo I have never thinned when painting

Chris how do you like the Tru-color paints? I have never used them as they are solvent based and I have issues with the solvent smells. I have a client that is re-doing his locomotive roster and will supply the Tru-color paints he wants me to use. I’m not sure if I want to accept the commission.

 

[C&OMtnMan]

I only use Vellejo and tru colour paint, Vellejo I have never thinned when painting

I think you and I discussed thinner use before - I’ve been gradually dialing down the amount of thinner I use, and been working more with dialing down the amount of paint I apply. I was getting to the point where the paint was so thinned, that it had a tendency run. Slowing down the application process wasn’t ideal, because the effect of applying another coat after drying was hard to discern. That just made the process take eons, as well.

In recent months I came to grips better with cleaning my airbrush well, and that has improved consistency in paint rate control, which has in turn allowed better coat control with less thinner in the paint.

 

[C&OMtnMan]

Chris how do you like the Tru-color paints? I have never used them as they are solvent based and I have issues with the solvent smells. I have a client that is re-doing his locomotive roster and will supply the Tru-color paints he wants me to use. I’m not sure if I want to accept the commission.

I’m not Chris, but I did use Tru-Color lacquer recently.:

I used Tru-Color lacquer a few months ago, in the October/November timeframe. “Weathered Black” was the color, used for painting an Atlas N-scale bridge kit (Arched truss, 14”long). It gave a semi-gloss finish, perhaps contrary to the expectation conferred by it being called weathered. But I really liked the effect. But to weather it with rust effects, etc., I went over it with Vallejo matte varnish.

Yes, it smells. I had the good fortune of airbrushing it on outside in good weather, and there was enough breeze to meet the threshold of “adequate ventilation.”

It played havoc with clogging my airbrush, however, and not just between sessions, but during sessions paint flow would stop, and a cleaning would be necessary.

Using it was the beginning of my long-term flow control and clogging woes of my above post.

Would I use it again? I plan to; I have plenty left, and several more bridge spans/kits to make, and I really did like the effect. And I have plenty of good outdoor weather in the coming months to spray it on.

 

[TLOC]

I’m not Chris, but I did use Tru-Color lacquer recently.:

I used Tru-Color lacquer a few months ago, in the October/November timeframe. “Weathered Black” was the color, used for painting an Atlas N-scale bridge kit (Arched truss, 14”long). It gave a semi-gloss finish, perhaps contrary to the expectation conferred by it being called weathered. But I really liked the effect. But to weather it with rust effects, etc., I went over it with Vallejo matte varnish.

Yes, it smells. I had the good fortune of airbrushing it on outside in good weather, and there was enough breeze to meet the threshold of “adequate ventilation.”

It played havoc with clogging my airbrush, however, and not just between sessions, but during sessions paint flow would stop, and a cleaning would be necessary.

Using it was the beginning of my long-term flow control and clogging woes of my above post.

Would I use it again? I plan to; I have plenty left, and several more bridge spans/kits to make, and I really did like the effect. And I have plenty of good outdoor weather in the coming months to spray it on.

Thank you. My air booth can handle almost any smell EXCEPT Testors Dull cote. I can wear a respirator instead of the Covid masks I use when spraying Arcylics

TomO