Seaboard passenger trains?

[kylewoody]

Hey guys,

I was wondering what Seboard would have used on passenger trains? I can't seem to find any photos - I was thinking like an E6 during the 1940s-'60s.

This was the line that had the Wabash Cannonball, right? Would they have run just "Pullman" lettered heavyweights then, or polished metal streamliner cars?

Thanks!
Kyle

 

[Rogue]

Hope this helps!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/corsec5/2652030435/

According to Wlikipedia, the following passenger routes were undertaken by Seaboard

Seaboard Florida Limited, inaugurated 1903
Heavyweight, winter-season only (December - April), all-Pullman, New York to Tampa; later renamed the New York-Florida Limited; by 1941 renamed the Palmland. Reduced to New York - Columbia, S.C., in May 1968; discontinued April 30, 1971.

Southern States Special, inaugurated early 20th century
Heavyweight, coach and Pullman cars, New York to Florida; renamed the Sun Queen by 1941, renamed the Camellia on May 18, 1947; renamed Sunland in December, 1948.

Orange Blossom Special, November 21, 1925 - April 26, 1953; due to wartime restrictions, did not run in the years 1942 - 1945.
Heavyweight, winter-season only, all-Pullman, New York to Tampa/St. Petersburg, and West Palm Beach, later to Miami as well. The most luxurious SAL train of its time, the OBS was immortalized in an extremely famous fiddle tune of the same name.

The following trains constituted Seaboard's widely advertised, very popular "Silver Fleet" of streamliners, with fluted-side stainless steel cars pulled by colorful EMD diesel locomotives:

Silver Meteor, inaugurated February 2, 1939
Initially an all-coach train (Pullman sleepers added in 1941), first streamliner to serve Florida, New York to Tampa/St. Petersburg and Miami. Preserving its reputation as "one of the finest trains in the country," the Meteor retained its round-ended observation cars until Amtrak took over operation in 1971. Still in Amtrak service today with updated equipment.

Silver Comet, May 18, 1947 - June 1969
Streamliner, coach and Pullman cars, New York to Atlanta and Birmingham.

Silver Star, inaugurated December 12, 1947
Streamliner, coach and Pullman cars, New York to Tampa/St. Petersburg and Miami. Still in Amtrak service, with updated equipment.

Gulf Wind, July 31, 1949 - April 30, 1971
Streamliner, coach and Pullman cars, Jacksonville to New Orleans. Handled jointly by SAL and the L&N, with motive power changed at Chattahoochee

 

[ray46]

I'm not a great aficionado of such things but wasn't the Wabash Canonball a train on the Wabash Railroad later incorporated into the Norfolk Western?

Went to web and could only find this postcard image. Not sure about the paint scheme.

This is one of Seaboards name trains, the Orange Blossom Special. It seems that a big chunk of Seaboards passenger revenue was in carrying passengers from the northeast to Flordia and back.

Try these links:

www.trainweb.org/seaboard/obspost.htm

http://store.trainz.com/Items/artobsgc?&caSKU=artobsgc&caTitle=Seaboard%20'Orange%20Blossom%20Special'%20Train%20Art%20-%20Giclee




Ray

 

[Cjcrescent]

Hey guys,

I was wondering what Seboard would have used on passenger trains? I can't seem to find any photos - I was thinking like an E6 during the 1940s-'60s.

Thanks!
Kyle

Kyle;

There are a couple of books out there that you may want to get. These deal strictly with passenger trains, and are loaded with all kind of info on them. They are also loaded with lots and lots of pictures and car diagrams. They are from Kalmbach.

The first one is Some Classic Trains by Arthur D. Dubin, and the sequel More Classic Trains. I got the first one as it has a section on the Crescent Limited on the Southern.

Between the two they cover the majority of the "named" trains from steam to dieselization.

I highly recommend each one.

 

[kylewoody]

Cool, thanks so much guys! Yeah, I guess I had a couple beers and the name slipped on the keyboard - I meant Orange Blossom Special...

So, it seems then if I used "Pullman" lettered (without even a roadname) heavyweight, that would be pretty prototypical. I know a lot of lines used just plain Pullman's it seems. I already have the streamlined smooth side cars, with my UP consist - so I was really hoping to use some of the older stuff.

Thanks too Carey, I will probably pick them up then - I already have a few Southern books, which covers freight in both diesel and steam, along with diesel passenger service, as well as a general info Southern book too.

I plan to research it real quick here, but just off the top of the head - anyone know of good heavyweights in N scale?

Kyle

 

[UP2CSX]

The Seaboard used everything from E4's like the ones that Ray46 and Rogue posted, through every other E model up to one solitary E-9. There's a good roster at http://members.aol.com/dblake7096/diesels.htm.